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Questions Nov. 16th, 2005 @ 02:00 pm
Greetings, and allow me to introduce myself! My name is Roberta, but you can call me Bo. I’m new to live journal, and have just started exploring, so please forgive any faux paux in net etiquette! I’m also just beginning to explore the possibility of returning to college, and I would be thankful for any information and insights shared about Shimer.

Some background:

I’m ‘slightly’ older, and have undergone a HUGE transformation since I first became familiar with Shimer in the early 1990s. I was in the Navy and spent some time at Great Lakes, and remember getting into fantastic conversations with students while heading into the city for a night of fun with my buddies. Long story short, I was drummed out for exploring my sexuality while on Uncle Sam’s pay role, lost my G.I. bill cash (the entire reason for joining the armed forces) and drifted around for the last 12 years, taking classes here and there, doing the random old job to make ends meet, buying books with any extra cash that came my way, and learning a lot about life.

I think Shimer might be the right fit for me, but I have some questions:

What type of queer/trans/sex positive atmosphere can I expect within the academic community?

Do older students transition into the ‘general’ intellectual community with ease?

With the possible campus move, what are the options for cheap housing near the ITT campus?

I’m just beginning to wrap my mind around becoming a student again, so any insight would be helpful.

Thank you!

An experiment... Nov. 16th, 2005 @ 11:58 am
Hi everybody,

I just wanted to let you all know about this little website: ShimerHenge.com . Feel free to post any old thing to the forum.

If you click on the "Virtual 438" link, you'll go straight to an attempt to create something that vaguely resembles a Shimer classroom. Please join and participate; everyone is welcome.

We're holding an experimental online discussion of Sappho's Hymn to Aphrodite this coming Thursday at 5:30 Chicago time, 6:30 Eastern. Come one, come all. If you can't make the time, you could still contribute to the class forum or the background knowledge wiki.

Sincerely yours,

Shimer in Exile Korea Chapter, Member #2

PS Honduran food in Waukegan? Now there's no way the college can move.

Nov. 15th, 2005 @ 08:32 pm
hey everybody,

just the other day, matt, jared, and i discovered a little piece of honduran heaven on the corner of belvidere and sheridan. el rincon hondureno restaurante. not exactly the most catchy name for a restaurant but pablo told me that rincon means "little" or "out of the way", which is entirely appropriate for this place--we were the only people eating there. but it's absolutely fantastic (and incredibly cheap) food, and the best and most considerate service i've ever had.

seriously, jared and i told the waitress that we're vegetarians, and a moment after she went away she came back to ask and make sure that we were okay with dairy. lots of meat and dairy but very vegan friendly, if not accomodating, in the menu.

just thought you should know...

so go give them your business!

i am: cheerfulcheerful

Nov. 14th, 2005 @ 02:27 pm
My thoughts on the Shimer-to-IIT move.

Yes, I actually joined this thing: Nov. 12th, 2005 @ 05:55 pm
Alright, alright: I know that the people in charge of it have apologized for the short notice of Solidarity festivities. Fine. Dandy. But I don't recall seeing anything in the cosmos emails saying for those of us who are in the weekend program to bring food in a pot luck fashion. Honestly, I don't feel like cooking for lots of people tonight *I am still a little wary after cooking for the Samhain's Silent Feast 2 years ago and only 4-8 people actually showing up, when there were plenty of announcements made in advance. Oh well.* So screw it.
I hope people have fun. I have no interest. Classes from 10-6 p.m aren't exactly going to make yours truly a livid party animal.
i am: pissed offpissed off
i hear: deine Lakaien-resurrection machine

Bill Brickley has create a blogspot specifically to address the proposed move. Nov. 9th, 2005 @ 02:03 pm

Nov. 9th, 2005 @ 11:43 am
i am committed to stopping the move. what can we do? petition?

this was the e-mail i got from sarah kimmel to a group of alums re: the iit move Nov. 9th, 2005 @ 09:34 am
[This is a pure cut-and-paste job, so any funky formatting can be blamed on that. Feel free to point any interested people to this post, as it seems like a decent summary of the issues. I have some thoughts on the matter, but I am at work right now, so it'll have to wait for the moment when I get a few spare minutes to rub together.]

ooh look! clicky thing!Collapse )

Nov. 9th, 2005 @ 10:28 am
hey y'all

something's up at shimer. what i heard is that last night the students were invited to a meeting where they were told that the executive board was strongly considering RELOCATING shimer out of waukegan and into- get this- a floor of a dormitory at IIT.

this is third-hand, and incomplete, but i'd like to start ASAP doing whatever i can to stop that from happening. i'll be in touch with some folks today and will post here what i've heard. i hope to hear from some current students and more about what's going on.

Eh? Aug. 31st, 2005 @ 11:36 am
Guess what?

Apparently, security concerns dictate that alumni are discouraged from visiting campus without staff invites? See the Ardent Spork's entry for details.

Golly. And here I am, possibly for the first time in my *life* shortly able to donate a huge, fuck-off wad of money to the old campus, and *this* comes up?

I'd like to donate, but to the *old* Shimer. The one where people felt safe because they were generally surrounded by caring, informal people, anarchic because everyone was nice to each other and anything else would make Psyche, Brandy, and Jack sad and Eileen wrathful.

Too fucking bad, eh?
i am: sadsad

Oh, goodness! (X-posted to my personal journal) Aug. 10th, 2005 @ 05:34 pm
...I am probably the last person alive not to know about


... this means that there is in fact a living transcript of my thesis, which I had thought lost forever (I gave my only spare copy to my father, who, um, misplaced its soft, absorbent self).

This also means I can read Edward's war poetry , and Yael's thesis, and Psyche's, and Amy F.'s and Maureen's and Katie-sama's and Timothy's and, and, and (insert your name here, I hope to be able to skim everyone's)... I feel like a kid in a candy store!

Television Aug. 7th, 2005 @ 08:58 pm
There is a perfectly functional, if ancient, color tv on the corner of North and Julian. It needs an antenna and unfortunately cannot be used with most DVD/ videogame technology without something to route it through (we used a VCR). It may not still be there, but might be worth the stroll, even for an art project/ performance piece (a friend of mine used to convert 'em into actual aquaria).

Happy hunting, all.

Random Aug. 1st, 2005 @ 11:56 am
Read an article today about Shimer in the _Waukegan Times_, or whatever... said Bill Rice "sees things that aren't there." Okay, it was supposed to be the hook of the article, but it did come off as less than praise for his vision. IMHO.

Text can be found here:


My two cents:

Shimer seems to be reeling most from people not being as drawn into the classes as they once were. You don't see the new people saying, their faces glowing, "This is a magical place... I don't know how I'll be able to fully relate to someone who doesn't know what to make of 'Brinji ngag...'"

...mostly because they don't teach _The Mountain People_ anymore.

Seems we've lost a lot of engaging texts. Is it best to preserve the Great Books as laid down by Adler and Hutchins, or should we bow to the vox populi?

Losing Shimer and losing integrity both seem pretty repulsive to me. Thoughts?

Shimer questions Jul. 4th, 2005 @ 11:27 pm
I'm a non-traditional student, interested in attending Shimer, with a few questions:

- Is there a substantive difference between the Weekday and Weekend programs, beyond price and schedule?

- How would you describe the Shimer community socially/politically (i.e. diverse-range of views? hippie? alernative? traditionalist? leftist? centrist? conservative? libertarian?)?

- What kind of stats are there for the student body (i.e. %non-traditional, %traditional, weekday vs.weekend, etc.)?

- How would you describe classroom discussions? Are people hesitant to speak? Does monopolization occur? Do personalities get injected or are people able to stay on topic? Debates? Yadda, yadda, yadda.


New Sappho poem... Jun. 24th, 2005 @ 05:00 pm
According to the _Guardian_, they've found and released a new poem by Sappho, but, in the ~30 seconds of web time a day I have, I can't find the actual text.


Can anyone else find it?

And while I'm asking, what's your favourite?

LIBERAL ARTS MAJORS: Navel Gazing Far into the Job Market Apr. 26th, 2005 @ 05:19 pm

ITalkNews) JH Lee

Q: What did the philosophy major say to the accounting major?
A: Do you want fries with that?

Are all majors created equal in the job market? The President has been touting the improving economy, and starting salaries for disciplines such as economics and accounting are rising modestly. But liberal arts graduates across the board watched as their salaries dropped nearly 4% last year. Ouch.

By all indications, the job market is generally getting better for recent college graduates. In August of last year, employers told the National Association of Colleges and Employers (NACE), which represents college careers services offices across the country, that they expected to increase the number of new college graduates they hired to increase in 2004-2005 by nearly 15% compared to the previous year. And according to an annual study conducted by Michigan State University, the percentage of employers with definite hiring targets improved 5% last year compared to the previous year as well. But how many of those chosen will be liberal arts majors?

“Liberal arts?is a general term used to encompass majors including (in no particular order of unemployability): English language and literature; foreign languages; letters; liberal and general studies; life sciences; mathematics; social sciences; physical sciences; psychology; and the visual and performing arts. In other words, all of the more interesting topics you studied in college.

So what does a liberal arts education offer the workforce at large? Are college students better off studying economics, finance, and other more specific disciplines? Well, maybe not.

According to another study conducted by NACE, the top five qualities employers look for in an employee are the following (in descending order of importance): Communication skills (written and verbal), honesty/integrity, interpersonal skills (relates well to others), strong work ethic, and teamwork skills (works well with others).

Well, aren’t these exactly the qualities that a liberal arts major is supposed to cultivate?

Liberal arts generally emphasize writing and analysis. Mimi Collins, director of information at NACE, adds that, “what liberal arts majors have to their benefit are good communication and interpersonal skills.?

Steve Langerud, the associate dean for experiential education at Grinnell College, concurs. Grinnell is an elite liberal arts college tucked away in the cornfields of Iowa. While an unlikely place, in many ways it turns a liberal arts education into a liberal arts experience. It has no structured curriculum, many multi-disciplinary courses, and one of the best writing centers in the country. Is living in the cornfields for four years a detriment to entering the workforce?

It doesn’t seem so. Every year top consulting firms, government agencies and corporations court the students who graduate from Grinnell. These organizations generally have entry-level openings they slot new college graduates into, so they can “grow their own?management teams. According to Langerud, what these employers are seeking is “raw intellectual horsepower?married to the adaptability gained from a liberal arts background. “They want someone who can learn quickly, because they will teach them everything else.?

So could liberal arts be the education of the future? Langerud believes so. “Forget what your morning horoscope said. No one can predict what’s going to happen by lunchtime, much less the direction of next year’s job market. And in four years, things will exist that don’t exist today. How do you prepare someone for something that doesn’t exist yet? A narrow, discreet skill set may only be advantageous in the short-term. The only thing that can really prepare you is the ability to think, and the ability to learn quickly. That is what a liberal arts major can do.?

But the value of a liberal arts education extends beyond the entry-level job market. As our life expectancies in the U.S. continue to increase with improved health care and quality of life, so will our work life. Most of us will change jobs several times within our lives. In addition, many college graduates continue on to graduate school. Therefore, it may be shortsighted to focus on how quickly we land that first job straight out of college. What may be more important, are the transferable skills we carry from job to job, career to career. In addition, we must know ourselves well enough to know what gives us job satisfaction.

Self-knowledge and exploration is the core of a liberal arts education. For Langerud, the value of studying liberal arts is the same across the board, whether at a state school or at a liberal arts college. “What you’re learning is: ‘What is important to me? Why?? These questions then become relevant to mapping the professional life, as well as the personal one. But what you’re really learning is how to live.?

what to do Apr. 25th, 2005 @ 02:43 pm
Maybe some of you saw my cosmos asking what you do, but I thought I'd ask here as well.

What do you do in Waukegan (or Chicago, Kenosha, etc.)?

Where do you eat/drink?
Where do you read?
You see.
What else do you do? And why? Tell stories! Send pictures (if you have them, I don't have any yet)!

It would be most helpful if you knew the address/phone number/hours (but not necessary, I can find that stuff) but what will make this most appealing to us (this is a broad "us") will be our stories about the places.


Shimer College Radio, In Case You Did Not Know Apr. 21st, 2005 @ 04:39 pm
Shimer College Radio
i am: poorly xeroxed communist pamph
i hear: waukegan sirens, office noises

Mar. 17th, 2005 @ 03:24 pm
Does it happen in a lot of your classes that students generally speak to the facilitator and not to the whole class? By this I mean that their comments/questions are directed there and so that's who they look at? I hate that.

Mar. 14th, 2005 @ 01:37 pm
How hard do you think it would be to make signs for our buildings, that would tell what was inside of them: classrooms, offices, etc.?

Feb. 22nd, 2005 @ 07:00 pm
what do you love about shimer?
i am: curiouscurious

oh! and i almost forgot: Nov. 6th, 2004 @ 07:14 pm
opening night this thursday @7pm!!!(i think)
starring Weston, Andrea, Jason, and Yours Truly, (me) Eve!

11th-13th, then 18th-20th.

i am: cheerful.

Oct. 25th, 2004 @ 12:03 pm
Olga Pechenaya (1998-2000) will be presenting results from her physics experiment at a national conference tomorrow... ask *her* if she thinks Shimer is "not a real school." But step back; she's pretty intimidating...

Camping Oct. 13th, 2004 @ 02:52 pm
There are pictures posted on the Intranet from the camping trip we had over Dean's Break. They're under Student Documents.
i am: awakeawake
i hear: "Paper Cup" - Heather Nova

Restaurant rec Oct. 13th, 2004 @ 10:39 am
Gojo's out by the DMV is quite good; veggie-friendly, even, and a good fruit plate. Also cute waitresses.

Oct. 3rd, 2004 @ 08:22 am
Today's thought for you youngbuns current students:

It is widely agreed that, from the Odyssey and Republic onward, the true common element of all the Great Books is discussion of cheese in (you should excuse the term) culture and civilization.* To my knowledge, no-one has ever done a semester project or thesis tracing this, although I did lend serious thought to my personal theory--- all Shimer texts eventually relate back to Batman--- as a thesis.


*Jean-Paul Sartre is the notable exception, but as cheese is so endemic to the French concept of civilization as to be an arguable medium, it is like a fish not mentioning water.

Sep. 22nd, 2004 @ 08:32 pm
I remember my first Shimer equinox party. We balanced eggs on their ends, which I hear you can do only on the equinoxes.

We were definitely working some sort of magic, though. Three of you were there, maybe four. Must I remember *everything*?

Sep. 19th, 2004 @ 09:34 pm
hello everybody,

I just wanted to say "hey" and that I'm enjoying my time here at Shimer. Hopefully I'll stick around for a few years.

We need a mascot, any ideas?


transferal Sep. 8th, 2004 @ 07:06 pm
my name is jake. I am a college student in NH (born/raised in CT) I'm looking to transfer and am curious to know a little more about Shimer. Here are few key points:
town- Is there somewhere to go off campus? A town, perhaps a movie theatre, coffee shop, that type?
academics- is the work challenging in a constructive way, as in, not just a lot of mind numbing reading and dull exams?
social life- is there more to do than party and drink? what's the social diversity like, the ratio of different kinds of people, the jocks, the hippies, the skaters, etc.
much obliged.

Free money! Sep. 2nd, 2004 @ 02:33 pm

There are two round cake tins, about 10", in the kitchen of Gregory. They are a darker metal, NOT nonstick, with rolled rims, maybe kind of mottled? They belonged to my late grandmother. When I had a friend in Gregory and asked for them, she would sigh heavily and say I could take them if *really* wanted... or so it seemed to me...

I also lent Gregory my copy of _Shooting Fish_ and _The Tall Guy_ (which, to be fair, is the official house movie and maybe should not be moved...)

Somehow, the idea that Gregory is no longer substance-free housing makes me sad enough that I can ask for these things back. I am offering a $30 reward for their safe return, payable in cash Wednesday or check Friday. Little hope... (Yes, I'm a priss, but it's more the spirit of Gregory... I'll explain about Gregory, the early years, someday.)
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