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New member with some questions!

Hello everyone! I'm Melly and I've been a fan of ANK for a while now. I found this community through a link and thought it would be great to have some friends I could chat with! Anyway I hope this isn't against the rules( and i'm sorry if it is, I'm new to this), but I did have some questions if I could! Anyway here goes:

1: Many moons ago I remember the "Taming Riki" series before the lady (Kira something?) made her own website and you had to pay to read it. Now it's like it has become bigger than the original!!!!! Most FF's and FA I see is based on her work. Apparently she has made her own comic based on her FF? I'm so confused with the whole thing? Is she working with the real owners/creators of ANK? I just don't get it >.<'. Should I be considering her works as part of the real OVA/novel.

2:I just got back into the fandom ( I saw the OVA before I even knew anything) and I guess there was a novel first? Then an OVA, then a new novel and OVA?!?! I'm so confused??! I feel like I'm lost!! I don't know where to start or end!

Sorry if this is against the rules or annoying! I'm just brain muddled and need some guidance??

Thanks and I look forward to some new friends!!

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dark1977
Jan. 24th, 2013 06:33 am (UTC)
1). No, it was pure fan-work.
2). First it was a novel, then it was adapted in 2-serial OVA, the author re-wrote the novel, then it was adapted in the new OVA (6 series so far).
bahen
Jan. 24th, 2013 10:32 am (UTC)
Just to elaborate a wee bit more.

Kira Takenouchi wrote Taming Riki, which yes, became bigger than ANK and many folk believed that that was what ANK was about.
Even though Taming Riki is fanfic, a lot of the fanfics out there are based on it.

She had nothing to do with the author of ANK and there was alot of controversy at the time of her selling her story but that is also a convoluted tale.

Depending on where you stand in ANK there are many who do believe that Taming Riki is the real ANK than the actual ANK (hope that made sense :) )

But Taming Riki is not ANK. The names might be the same, but it is not the same story and I know that I don't consider it a part of the novels or the OVA.

And speaking of the Novels. yes there was the novel which came out years ago, but was not translated by a publishing company into English. Now the way I understand it, the author rewrote the story adding bits and pieces and DMP picked up the English publishing rights. Those of us who are reading the novels, are now waiting for the last one to be released.

Once again someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the original 2 part OVA was released in the 80's. The new OVA was originally supposed to be released in 2010/2011, but economic woes brought it to a halt. 4 Episodes that were just about finished were released in 2012. And if the other episodes are ever made or see the light of day, we would all sing Hallelujah.

So welcome to the club,and if you want to read some really good ANK fanfic go to Ainzfern on LJ. Her works are my favorite :)



tiffa666
Jan. 24th, 2013 02:57 pm (UTC)
What's exactly the major difference/similarity between AnK and Taming Riki story-wise(why some fans thought it was the AnK itself)?
eprime
Jan. 24th, 2013 03:28 pm (UTC)
Her fic basically ignored major elements of the original novel. Her Blondies acted like hormonal sex-crazed adolescents who perved on each other as well as pets and furniture.

Iason beat Riki severely almost constantly in her fics. Didn't happen in the real novel, where he used sex and the pet ring to control Riki.

She also added a lot of OCs and spent a lot of time on them.

Personally, I hoped Riki would shove that "taming stick" up Iason's ass, blow up EOS tower, steal a spaceship, and head off into the sunset on his own. But your mileage may vary. ;)
tiffa666
Jan. 24th, 2013 06:11 pm (UTC)
I see, I read about the issue w/ the ff writer before but I never read any of parts of Taming Riki. I thought it has a better narrative, character profile and story compared from the AnK novel hence fans believed it was the original version.

Thanx for the info.^^
masamunes_song
Jan. 27th, 2013 01:34 am (UTC)
I, also, preferred TR to the original ANK. At least, the first part... as TR went on there was more and more menage weirdness and things that grossed me out.

ANK, though, when I read it... made very little sense. Long, pointless mood-setting things that add exactly nothing to the plot, and EXTREMELY disorganized lack of chronology... VERY little character development, and lengthy ramblings about inconsequential characters, red herrings EVERYWHERE... loose ends dangling all over the place. The orignal OVA tidied it up, and Iason's voice was sex and win and love... I am a fan of the original OVA, more than anything.

TR was, for all its eventual horribleness, was a love story, or at least an erotica story. Unquestionably porn, but porn with some level of emotional development.
suxxxann
Jan. 24th, 2013 04:20 pm (UTC)
The differences are so many there could be an entire site devoted to it.

Too much bdsm and fault/punishment routines, out of character behavior and other stuff.

Why people fell for it? Several reasons...

- ignorance (as in ignoring the truth, thanks also to some rumors that she was authorized)
- ank fandom was starving
- seriality: it kept going on, getting ppl hooked
- some sex scenarios were interesting (it had the sometimes used cliché of past couple raoul/iason)
- it kept the buzz going in a tired time for ank
- it came with a much controversial personal drama of the author (life is stranger than fiction)
tiffa666
Jan. 24th, 2013 06:49 pm (UTC)
Oh, I see... I just never get why some fans mistook it for the real AnK when there were OVA's and old/revised novel releases despite some interesting things presented on her own writing. She should just do something like 50 Shades instead of using AnK if she's still around.
bahen
Jan. 24th, 2013 09:19 pm (UTC)
Just to elaborate some more....
The plots were totally different. Taming Riki was BSDM. And that is how Kira described it.

ANK is just more. More story, harsher in someways, political, sociological, confronting.

I think most of us who have read the current books can agree that the first 6 books in the English translation were not an easy read, as the language was very convoluted at times. And the sex scenes weren't in your face as with Taming Riki.

A major reason why people flocked to Taming Riki rather than ANK novels.

Also Taming Riki in comparison is very basic in plot and a very easy read in comparison.

Other major differences were Jupiter's role in both stories (did she even have a role in ANK novels, I'm pretty sure in the novel she is just mentioned as the ruling AI and isn't even called Jupiter)

Just for the record, many things that took place in Taming Riki, crossed over and became fact in our minds.

Prime example, and we once had a lively discussion on it here. No where in the ANK novels does it say Blondies don't have sex. It is not socially acceptable to have sex with a pet. But the question of sex itself is never put out there.

On the other hand in Taming Riki, Blondies aren't allowed to have sex at all and Jupiter calls the shots.

The only good that Taming Riki did was it did keep the fandom alive, as folk were fascinated with the ahmmmmmmmm. :)

Kira had psychological issues on top of other things and has disappeared off the scene for a few years now.

Sadly and it just goes to show what human nature is, with her disappearance and Taming Riki being old news, the fandom has lost momentum, especially since the new Ova appears to be on permanent hold.

suxxxann
Jan. 24th, 2013 01:28 pm (UTC)
The old ovas are from the beginning of 90s (91 & 93).

To understand more you could use our tags on the side (there is a Kira tag) or for the chronology www.ainokusabi.net
prettybadkitty
Jan. 24th, 2013 04:14 pm (UTC)
When I got into ank there was some uproar with that Kira... if I remember correctly she had problems with psychical health or something??
suxxxann
Jan. 24th, 2013 04:59 pm (UTC)
Allegedly she stole $$$ to ppl subscribed to her site and never delivered.

Bad business practice
prettybadkitty
Jan. 24th, 2013 05:38 pm (UTC)
I recall there was some site or blog where great number of people were complaining on her, but my english was not very good at the time and amount of comments was overwhelming.
yousa_minnoa
Jan. 27th, 2013 05:13 am (UTC)
Wow! Thanks for clearing that up guys, I feel kinda silly now. :X

I kinda agree with most the views on Taming Riki. It was an interesting read for me at first but than it seemed to never end. The chapters seemed to repeat themselves, indefinitely.Like she ran out of material and just used the same ideas over and over. The original characters became way OOC and there was sooo many OCs it became a confusing mess, to me at least. It was quite a feat of work though.
chocogihan
Feb. 3rd, 2013 10:35 am (UTC)
Wow....I had no idea about this either ^-^ lol I have just gained some great info, thank guys.
(Anonymous)
Jul. 16th, 2013 02:32 pm (UTC)
Does anyone know if there will be more taming riki?
Kira Takenouchi
Oct. 27th, 2017 07:17 pm (UTC)
Taming Riki Vol 2, Part 3 has just been updated
Taming Riki is available for free at http://www.kiratakenouchi.com
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