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Sep. 14th, 2007

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Facebook Genealogy Group

For all Canadians here who are Facebook members, I have created Canadians Tracing Their Roots.

May. 1st, 2007

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Hey all--just thought I should let you know that there is a new Wiki-type site out there for genealogy! WeRelate is a brand new site that allows people to upload gedcom files, post pictures, start family or person pages and more. It takes a bit of getting used to, but I think its going to become an excellent resource! Check it out!

Feb. 2nd, 2007

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Getting It Together

I've created a few sites to help me stay organized and back up my information.

http://oblyvia.tribalpages.com :: my family tree
http://robynsroots.googlepages.com :: my family website. this has more detailed information about each member of my family. its new, so it has new information almost daily right now.
http://robynsroots.spaces.live.com/ :: my organization site on MSN. this has links to the other sites, my genealogy-specific hotmail account (robynsroots@hotmail.com), photos, MSN genealogy group links and a blog.

If any of you have sites you'd like to share, please feel free!

Jan. 30th, 2007


Any Ideas?

My name is Rachel and I'm new to this group. I've been working on genealogy for about two years now and I've come to a brick wall that perhaps somebody can give me some suggestions on what to do.

William H. Gardner
b. about 1843 possibly in Michigan
m. unknown woman most likely 1866-1869
d. 1873 in Johnson County, Arkansas

fact 1: enlisted in the Civil War in Warren County, Iowa 1863; discharged 1866.
I contacted the NARA about getting his civil war records and they sent me the wrong person twice. I was then told that they didn't have any record of him.

fact 2: He and his wife went to Johnson County, Arkansas in the spring of 1873 with their 2 children Charles (4) and Ollie (2). The wife got sick and died. William went to work at a sawmill and was ambushed, shot, and killed on the way back to his children.

I haven't been able to find him for sure in any census as he would only be in the 1850, 1860 and 1870. I found a possible match in the 1860 census, but the age and place of birth are off.

I have been told that there was a coroner's inquest into his death, but I haven't been able to track that down yet.

I do have a picture of him and his wife, but I'm not sure when or where it was taken.
Any help or ideas anybody may have would be greatly appreciated.

Jan. 24th, 2007

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A poem!

I found this on the webpage of one of my distant relatives, and thought we could all relate to it!

The Elusive Ancestor

I went seaching for an ancetor. I cannot find him still
He moved around from place to place and did not leave a will
He married where a courthouse burned. He mended all his fences.
He avoided any man who came to take the U.S. Census !!!!
He always kept his luggage packed, this man who had no fame.
And every 20 years or so, this rascal changed his name.
His parents came from Europe. They should be upon some list.
Of passage to the USA, but somehow they got missed.
And no one else in this world is searching for this man
So I play geneasolitaire to fine him if I can.
I'm told he's buried in a plot, with tombstone he was blessed,
But the weather took engraving, and some vandals took the rest.
He died before the county clerks decided to keep records.
No Family Bible has emerged, in spite of all my efforts.
To top it off this ancestor, who caused me many groans,
Just to give one more pain, bethrothed a girl named JONES.

By Merrell Kenworthy

Jan. 12th, 2007

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While its not as grand as it sounds, I have traced my father's ancestors all the way back to Charlemagne! This should be quite exciting, to find royalty in one's line, but the fact is, EVERYONE is descended from Charlemagne. Everyone of European descent, that is. Still, it is exciting that I can go back that far and beyond, thanks to royalty keeping far better genealogical records than anyone else. I've source-checked over and over, and this line seems dead-on, though once I got past Charlemagne, some disagreements started popping up. I plan to go to the library this weekend to see what I can find on his ancestors. How exciting that I have reached the 500's!! What is the furthest back you've been able to reach, with reliable sources?

Jan. 9th, 2007

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Help! Again!

I know I've probably asked for help on this before, but after months of searching, I still haven't broken this wall down!

I am looking for my great-grandfather...oh, what a chore!

I know he's deceased. I know his name was Robert Christie, though I don't know that he was born with that surname (its possible that his STEPfather was Christie, but no one is positive). I know he spent the majority of his life in Illinois, and I know that he never legally married my great grandmother, Marie Trowbridge. I know that their only child together was my grandfather, also Robert Christie.

Unfortunately, this is all I know. He was an absent father, so my grandfather only knows the above info as well.

My grandfather was born in 1932, and he says that his parents had him young, so I am guessing my G-G'paw was born sometime between 1910-1915. My G-G'ma was born in 1913, so this helps with the guesstimation as well.

*sigh* I reeeeeally want to break this wall down. If anyone can help, or give me some advice, I'd greatly appreciate it.


x-posted to _longlost_ and genealogy

Nov. 22nd, 2006


Hi Everyone

I am new to this site and would appreciate any and all help I can get to trace My Elusive Family.

I am having trouble locating my Pendlebury ancestor, born in India, emmigrated to Nova Scotia in or around 1910. Since he died when my Mom was young, there is not a whole lot of info on him.
He was born in Kamptee, India Feb. 29, 1892. I don't know if he was army or Civilian worker for East India Company. Help!!!

I keep running into a brick wall and out of ideas.

Sep. 15th, 2006


Small Town, Hometown

I'm from a very small village in the farthest northwest corner of Minnesota named St. Vincent. My memories of growing up there are strong and positive. I am an avid genealogist and place historian, and am proud to join this group..


Aug. 11th, 2006

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Friend Found!

I just wanted to let you all know that a very dear friend from my past found me recently by using--she said--PeopleFinder. I'm not sure what she is referring to (I'll ask her when we speak next), as the only PeopleFinder website I could find was American, and we are Canadian. Is anyone familiar with a Canadian version?

In any case, it was great to be found, and I hope you are all having luck in your searches! Keep us updated!

Jun. 27th, 2006


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I was wondering if anyone could help me with the name: Schmuttermayer or Schmuttermeyer, my father's side of the family carries the name and though we know they're german we don't know much else, thanks

May. 29th, 2006

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I am in need of help with my Strachan line. Strachan is a well known Scottish clan, with most of its ties being to Dundee and Aberdeenshire.

My great grandmother was Barbara Strachan, and her father was David Crockett Strachan. David was born in Dundee in 1837, but relocated to England upon marrying Margaret Crowfoot. He died in 1909.

That's as far as I can get. I really need to find the names of David's parents before I can go any further.

Any help in finding his parents names would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Apr. 3rd, 2006

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A distant relative sent me pictures of gravestones the other day to help me with my genealogical studies!

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Mar. 16th, 2006


Looking for my friend, Roseanne

Hello, my name is Josie. I'm a new member.

I've been wanting to find an old school chum for quite some time now. My searching is unfortunately going to be restricted to internet for the time being, since she lives (still? maybe not?) in Oregon, and me in Idaho.

We went to school together in the 6th grade, and then I moved to California after that. We wrote letters for a long time and then she suddenly stopped writing when I was about 14 or so. That's basically it.

Any tips? BTW, I tried classmates and she wasn't listed, and I didn't recognize any other names. Unfortunately I only have that middle school to go on, and assuming she stayed in West Linn all through high school I searched the West Linn high school alumni but still didn't see her, or any of the other kids I was friends with.

Any advice?

Basic Information:

She went by 2 names, her mom's and dad's. I'm not sure what it would be on her birth cert. or anything like that.

Roseanne Christine Zinck and Roseanne Christine Carter
The school was Bolton Middle School in West Linn, OR
The West Linn HS was just that: West Linn High

That's pretty much all I know.

Mar. 8th, 2006

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Running out of ideas

I have a couple of brick walls, as mentiond in an earlier post. The most frustrating being my own great grandfather. My question is not specific to him though, it is more where to go when you have run out of places to go. I need some fresh ideas. I have searched the internet, the library and questioned all the family members I have access to. Does anyone have some not-so-obvious places I could look for info?

Feb. 18th, 2006



My most frustrating dead end.

On some branches of my family, I have done well (back to 1470 on one!) However, one of those relatives my mother remembers very well is almost a complete mystery.

His name was Mario Paolo Tassinari. At some point in the early 1900s, he left Italy (probably Verona) because his parents wanted him to work in the family business, which was a sugar refinery (I have found that one near Verona was bombed by the Americans in WWII, but don't know if that was the same one). Mario believed he could be a successful hairdresser, so went to England, angering his family so much that communication between them effectively ended. I believe he stayed on good terms with one sister, Soemmia.

In England, Mario was determined to be British. He ceased speaking Italian and, following his marriage to Gertrude May Clayton (marriage not yet found, but I know they did subsequently divorce many years later) he refused to allow his children to learn Italian. His children were Guido, Philadelphia Soemmia May, Yolanda, Vittorio Paolo and Rinaldo Alfred Mario. Vittorio is/was my grandfather (missing for many years and probably living under a false name.

At first, I assumed Philadelphia was a name from one of Mario's Italian relatives, as Soemmia is, but it turned out to come from the Clayton family.

I know virtually nothing about the family Mario came from. My mother was told a great aunt of hers was a ballerina and I believe the suggestion was that she was named Anita in honour of the lady. I have some fluency in Italian, but no idea of how to start looking for Italian sources online or even if any exist. My mother owns a picture of Mario's parents, especially tantalising because his mother has features that I share and I would love to know more about this lady that I seem to resemble (although she is very pretty, which is one way I do not take after her).

My mother remembers Mario with great affection. When Vittorio abandoned his wife and children, Mario helped them. His hairdressing business was successful. At a time when most hairdressers used poisonous chemicals and strong bleaches, he used natural products and refused to do anything damaging to hair. He was very popular. He was a good man, very fond of his granddaughter and always buying her things. Gran says she had to be careful about saying the children needed anything where he could hear, because he would take them out and buy it and she always felt guilty.

This is Mario Paolo Tassinari:

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Feb. 14th, 2006



New Member

Hello, folks!

I'm Helen. I live in Oxfordshire, England and I'm obsessed with genealogy, my own and other people's. In my search for my own relatives, I've become accustomed to searching in the various online sources for Britain and I've come to know some of the tricks our ancestors used to hide from me. One gentleman, my great-grandfather William John Wood, concealed his true age, apparently because his wife was a bit older than him.

Anyway, if anyone here is having trouble finding English or Welsh ancestors (not much experience with Scottish sources yet, but I'll try them too, if you like), I am always happy to help. Many of my dead ends have been sorted out by other people, so I want to do my bit now. I can't promise success, but I can promise that I will chase your ancestors with the same enthusiasm with which I hunt my own. If I can help with anything, even just general questions about the UK, just say.

Feb. 9th, 2006

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A Harding Brick Wall

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Joseph Harding and Harriet Mills

All info I have is questionable! Apparently both born in 1845 in Woodchester, England. I am desperately seeking the names of their parents. Charles Harding is their son, my great grandfather.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!


Feb. 7th, 2006

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Getting From Sept to Clan

Recently, my genealogical obsession has turned towards my Scottish heritage, of which I have much. My mother has Scottish roots on both sides, her mother's maiden name being Stalker.

Stalker is listed most commonly as a sept of the clan MacFarlane, though occassionally attributed to MacGregor as well. My mother says she's been told we come from the MacFarlane line, though no proof exists to my knowledge. Which is what this post is about.

How do you trace a sept to a clan? Plently of sites, such as the official MacFarlane site, electricscotland.com, etc., list Stalker as a sept of MacFarlane, but offer no tree or in depth research that shows the line. I have managed to trace my Stalker line as far back as 1657, but have hit a wall now.

Can anyone suggest tips on linking my sept with the clan?

x-posted to genealogy, myfamilytree and _longlost_

Feb. 4th, 2006

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People of this era may find that they are linked to more than one clan. In my case, they are Scottisch clans, and I am directly descended from the following:

Strachan Clan->my great-great grandfather was David Crockett Strachan of Dundee, Angus, Scotland.

This name is derived from the lands of Strachan, or Strathachen, in Kincardineshire. Strath is derived from the Gaelic, 'srath', meaning broad mountain valley. In 1200 Walderus de Stratheihen made a grant of lands to the church of St Andrews.

John, son of Rudolph de Strachane, gifted lands to the Abbey of Dunfermline which was confirmed by a charter of Alexander III in 1278.

The barony of Strachan and the lands of Feteresso passed to the family of Keith from the Strachans by marriage, in the reign of David II, but Sir James Strachan of Monboddo obtained the lands of Thornton in Kincardine. He had 2 sons the elder, Duncan, took the lands of Monboddo, while the younger had the lands of Thornton. Sir Alexander Strachan of Thornton was created a Baronet of Nova Scotia by Charles I in 1625.

The baronetcy passed in to the senior line of Monboddo by a charter under the great seal in 1663.

During the Napoleonic Wars, Admiral Sir Richard Strachan, 6th baronet, commanded a squadron. On 2 November 1805 his squadron engaged four French battleships that had escaped from Lord Nelsons triumph at the Battle of Trafalgar. Sir Richard captured all four French vessels with little loss of British life. He was created a Knight of the Bath and in 1810 was granted freedom of the City of London.

The title became dormant in 1854.

Stalker Sept/McFarlane Clan->my grandmother is Joyce Stalker.

Of the clan Macfarlane, Mr Skene gives the best account, and we shall therefore take the liberty of availing ourselves of his researches. According to him, with the exception of the clan Donnachie, the clan Parlan or Pharlan is the only one, the descent of which from the ancient earls of the district where their possessions were situated, may be established by the authority of a charter. It appears, indeed, that the ancestor of this clan was Gilchrist, the brother of Maldowen or Malduin, the third Earl of Lennox. This is proved by a charter of Maldowen, still extant, by which he gives to his brother Gilchrist a grant "de terris de superiori Arrochar de Luss"; and these lands, which continued in possession of the clan until the death of the last chief, have at all times constituted their principle inheritance.

But although the descent of the clan from the Earls of Lennox be thus established, the origin of their ancestors is by no means so easily settled. Of all the native earls of Scotland, those of this district alone have had a foreign origin assigned to them, though, apparently, without any sufficient reason. The first Earl of Lennox who appears on record is Aluin comes de Levenox, who lived in the early part of the 13th century; and there is some reason to believe that from this Aluin the later Earls of Lennox were descended. It is, no doubt, impossible to determine now who this Aluin really was; but, in the absence of direct authority, we gather from tradition that the heads of the family of Lennox, before being raised to the peerage, were hereditary seneschals of Strathearn, and bailies of the Abthanery of Dull, in Athole. Aluin was succeeded by a son of the same name, who is frequently mentioned in the chartularies of Lennox and Paisley, and who died before the year 1225. In Donald, the sixth earl, the male branch of the family became extict. Margaret, the daughter of Donald, married Walter de Fassalane, the heir male of the family; but this alliance failed to accomplish the objects intended by it, or, in other words, to preserve the honours and power of the house of Lennox. Their son Duncan, the eighth earl, had no male issue; and his eldest daughter Isabella, having married Sir Murdoch Stuart, the eldest son of the Regent, he and his family became involved in the ruin which overwhelmed the unfortunate house of Albany. At the death of Isabella, in 1460, the earldom was claimed by three families; but that of Stewart of Darnley eventually overcame all opposition, and acquired the title and estates of Lennox. Their accession took place in the year 1488; upon which the clans that had been formerly united with the earls of the old stock separated themselves, and became independent.

Of these clans the principal was that of the Macfarlanes, the descendants, as has already been stated, of Gilchrist, a younger brother of Maldowen, Earl of Lennox. In the Lennox charters, several of which he appears to have subscribed as a witness, this Gilchrist is generally designated as frater comitis, or brother of the earl. His son Duncan also obtained a charter of his lands from the Earl of Lennox, and appears in the Ragman's roll under the title of "Duncan Macgilchrist de Levenaghes". From a grandson of this Duncan, who was called in Gaelic Parlan, or Bartholomew, the clan appears to have taken the surname Macfarlane; indeed the connection of Parlan both with Duncan and with Gilchrist is clearly established by a charter granted to Malcolm Macfarlane, the son of Parlan, confirming to him the lands of Arrochar and others; and hence Malcolm may be considered as the real founder of the clan. He was succeeded by his son Duncan, who obtained from the Earl of Lennox a charter of the lands of Arrochar as ample in its provisions as any that had been granted to his predecessors; and married a daughter of Sir Colin Campbell of Lochow, as appears from a charter of confirmation granted in his favour by Duncan, Earl of Lennox. Not long after his death, however, the ancient line of the Earls of Lennox became extinct; and the Macfarlanes having claimed the earldom as heirs male, offered a strenuous opposition to the superior pretensions of the feudal heirs. Their resistance, however, provided alike unsuccessful and disastrous. The family of the chief perished in defence of what they believed to be their just rights; the clan also suffered severely, and of those who survived the struggle, the greater part took refuge in remote parts of the country. Their destruction, indeed, would have been inevitable, but for the opportune support given by a gentleman of the clan to the Darnley family. This was Andrew Macfarlane, who, having married the daughter of John Stewart, Lord Darnley and Earl of Lennox, to whom his assistance had been of great moment at a time of difficulty, saved the rest of the clan, and recovered the greater part of their hereditary possessions. The fortunate individual in question, however, though the good genius of the race, does not appear to have possessed any other title to the chiefship than what he derived from his position, and the circumstances of his being the only person in a condition to afford them protection; in fact, the clan refused him the title of chief, which they appear to have considered as incommunicable, except in the right line; and his son, Sir John Macfarlane, accordingly contented himself with assuming the secondary or subordinate designation of captain of the clan.

From this time, the Macfarlanes appear to have on all occassions supported the Earls of Lennox of the Stewart race, and to have also followed their banner in the field. For several generations, however, their history as a clan is almost an entire blank; indeed, they appear to have merged into mere retainers of the powerful family, under whose protection they enjoyed undistirbed possession of their hereditary domains. But in the sixteenth century Duncan Macfarlane of Macfarlane appears as a steady supporter of Matthew, Earl of Lennox. At the head of three hundred men of his own name, he joined Lennox and Glencairn in 1544, and was present with his followers at the battle of Glasgow-Muir, where he shared the defeat of the party he supported. He was also involved in the forgeiture which followed, but having powerful friends, his property was, through their intercession, restored, and he obtained a remission under the privy seal. The loss of this battle forced Lennox to retire to England; whence, having married a niece of Henry VIII, he soon afterwards returned with a considerable force which the English monarch had placed under his command. The chief of Macfarlane durst not venture to join Lennox in person, being probably restrained by the terror of another forfeiture; but, acting on the usual Scottish policy of that time, he sent his relative, Walter Macfarlane of Tarbet, with four hundred men, to reinforce his friend and patron; and this body, according to Holinshed, did most excellent service, acting at once as light troops and as guides to the main body. Duncan, however, did not always conduct himself with equal caution; for he is said to have fallen in the fatal battle of Pinkie, in 1547, on which occasion also a great number of his clan perished.

Andrew, the son of Duncan, as bold, active and adventurous as his sire, engaged in the civil wars of the period, and, what is more remarkable, took a prominent part on the side of the Regent Murray; thus acting in opposition to almost all the other Highland chiefs, who were warmly attached to the cause of the queen. He was present at the battle of Langside with a body of his followers, and there "stood the Regent's part in great stead"; for, in the hottest of the fight, he came up with three hundred of his friends and countrymen, and falling fiercly on the flank of the queen's army, threw them into irretrieveable disorder, and thus mainly contributed to decide the fortune of the day. The clan boast of having taken at this battle three of Queen Mary's standards, which, they sau, were preserved for a long time in the family. Macfarlane's reward was not such as afforded any great cause for admiring the munificence of the Regent; but that his vanity at least might be conciliated, Murray bestowed upon him the crest of a demi-savage proper, holding in his dexter hand a sheaf of arrows, and pointing with his sinister to an imperial crown, or, with the motto, This I'll defend". Of the son of this chief nothing is known; but his grandson, Walter Macfarlane, returning to the natural feelings of a Highlander, proved himself as sturdy a champion of the royal party as his grandfather had been an uncompromising opponet and enemy. During Comwell's time, he was twice besieged in his own house, and his castle of Inveruglas was afterwards burned down by the English. But nothing could shake his fidelity to his party. Though his personal losses in adhering to the royal cause were of a much more substantial kind than his grandfather's reward in opposing it, yet his zeal was not cooled by adversity, nor his ardour abated by the vengeance which it drew down on his head.

Although a small clan, the Macfarlanes were as turbulent and predatory in their way as their neighbours the Macgregors. By the Act of the Estates of 1587 they were declared to be one of the clans for whom the chief was made responsible; by another act passed in 1594, they were denounced as being inthe habit of committing theft, robbery, and opression; and in July 1624 many of the clan were tried and convicted of theft and robbery. Some of them were punished, some pardoned; while others were removed to the highlands of Aberdeenshire, and to Strathaven in Banffshire, where they assumed the names of Stewart, M'Caudy, Greisock, M'James, and M'Innes.

Of one eminet member of the clan, the following notice is taken by Mr Skene in his work on the Highland of Scotland. He says, "It is impossible to conclude this sketch without alluding to the eminent antiquary, Walter Macfarlane of that ilk, who is as celebrated among historians as the indefatigable collector of the ancient records of the country, as his ancestors had been among the other Highland chiefs for their prowess in the field. The family itself, however, is now nearly extict, after having held their original lands for a period of six hundred years.

Of the lairds of Macfarlane there have been no fewer than twenty-three. The last of them went to North America in the early part of the 18th century. A branch of the family settled in Ireland in the reign of James VII, and the headship of the clan is claimed by its representative, Macfarlane of Hunstown House, in the county of Dublin. The descendants of the ancient chiefs cannot now be traced, and the lands once possessed by them have passed into other hands.

Excerpts from: http://www.electricscotland.com

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