nyctophobia76 ([info]nyctophobia76) wrote in [info]xjournal,
@ 2008-03-10 21:10:00
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I have a Mac with Intel, and I was wondering if this is the client I should use to be able to get Rich Text formatting as opposed to only HTML. If not could someone point me in the right direction? Or if there is no client that does that could someone show me if there is a list of codes for all the things that Rich Text does? Thanks so much!

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[info]wibbble
2008-03-11 01:27 am UTC (link)
The 'rich text' editor on LJ's webpage just formats your HTML for you. There's no other way to style an LJ entry other than HTML.

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[info]skreidle
2008-03-11 01:50 am UTC (link)
Well, that's not exactly true--CSS and HTML (and there are LJ clients that offer WYSIWYG editing. :)

Edited at 2008-03-11 01:51 am UTC

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[info]wibbble
2008-03-11 02:04 am UTC (link)
I actually had 'CSS' written, then removed it since I vaguely remembered that LJ's HTML cleaner cleaned out a lot of CSS and I wouldn't want to give a false impression.

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[info]skreidle
2008-03-11 02:13 am UTC (link)
I'm not sure what the cleaner takes care of (though I used to be on top of it), but there are a whole lot of <style> tags floating around LJ. :)

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[info]willitwork
2008-06-06 01:40 pm UTC (link)
I just inline my CSS, and never had a problem. It'll generally strip classes, and of course you can't put things in the head.

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[info]nyctophobia76
2008-03-11 01:55 am UTC (link)
I guess I should have been more clear. I know what the rich text editor does, but there is no rich text editor when you use Safari as your internet browser. The FAQ pages said that one should download a client in order to get a rich text editor-like thingy on Safari. I don't know the HTML codes or where to find them. If you could direct me to a list of them that would be great, but getting a rich text editor like program for Safari would be even better because then I wouldn't have to memorize all the codes. I hope I'm making sense. I know next to nothing about all of this.

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[info]wibbble
2008-03-11 02:05 am UTC (link)
Search Google for 'basic HTML'. You'll find hundreds of web sites with this information.

I don't believe there's any Mac OS X clients which offer 'rich text' editing like that, although I may be mistaken. Xjournal definitely does not.

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[info]casey
2008-03-11 02:26 am UTC (link)
The FAQ pages said that one should download a client in order to get a rich text editor-like thingy on Safari.

I think you're misinterpreting what they're saying here on the site, unless you're reading a different page than I am. They're saying that a client might offer its *own* rich text editing features, but it wouldn't add rich text editing *to* Safari.

Xjournal has nice keyboard shortcuts that make sense (Cmd-B, Cmd-I, and Cmd-U will add HTML to bold, italicize, and underline text like you would expect it to), but if you really want a WYSIWYG rich text editor under OS X I think your best bet would be to use a different browser like Firefox or Camino for posting to Livejournal, which both support the rich text editor.

Edited at 2008-03-11 02:28 am UTC

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[info]shatterstripes
2008-03-11 02:17 pm UTC (link)
Sadly, neither of the LJ clients I know of on OSX (xJournal, iJournal) make formatting easy, sorry. You have to do HTML.

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[info]willitwork
2008-06-06 01:41 pm UTC (link)
Accorinding to the FAQ, journalalert does rich text, but it's always ugly. Learn your HTML and be one of the cool kids.

Also, keen icon.

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[info]shatterstripes
2008-06-06 03:01 pm UTC (link)
In theory it does, but in reality sprote.com seems to be long-gone, so it's not exactly available.

These daysSafari supports the hooks that you need for the kind of formatting widgetry LJ gives you on the 'update' page, but LJ hasn't been updated for that. If the original poster wants nice editing in LJ's update page, they need to either switch to Firefox, hassle LJ to update things, or get LJ's source and start hacking on a patch.

(Looks like it's not too huge a change for LJ, either - they appear to use FCKEditor in the update page, which works on Safari; LJ just needs to update to the latest version and change their 'if using these browsers add in the editor' code.)

Also, thanks. It's a snippet from a larger piece that also got re-used in the Tarot deck I've been doing.

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[info]juliesaintjust
2008-05-08 04:51 pm UTC (link)
Sorry, piping in. Ecto has Rich Text support, but it's not freeware, and it hasn't complete LJ support (no mood, no music or current items). You can use it with other platoforms too, though.

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