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So my ex recently joined the guild I'm in. We are on speaking terms, but he does irritate me quite a bit. (it's my fault he joined, I told him about the guild when he was talking about WoW)

I had a long rant, but I'm just going to shorten this.

He fails at his class. He is demanding me run him through stuff. He just seems to completely ignore vent while raiding. And he whines to me about how people don't invite him to things.

Seriously, like I said, we do talk once in awhile, but he is driving me up the wall AND IT HAS ONLY BEEN ONE DAY. I told him to read some stuff about his class before he raids again. He was getting all upset about people yelling at him over vent when he was making the same mistakes OVER AND OVER. I was so close to just booting him from the raid.

I know people aren't awesome when they start, but he leveled this toon to 70 and decided not to play again a long time. It's not like he has never played the game before, yet he was acting like he never played when I logged on.

I don't know if he is actually that helpless or if he is crying for attention. Honestly, I'm really worried it's #2. I don't know if I should talk to him about it yet or hope he just gets over it.

* i should note I'm an officer in this guild, but I'm not the one who let him in.

Edit:
I want to tank you guys for helping me out. I was really upset last night about everything, I had him whispering me and bitching and then my friends whispering me and bitching, so it was stressing me out. Thank you guys for your advice *hugs*

After 1 day, 13 hours, I dinged level 50 on my Spriest. (My bf is a few bars behind me). I <3 the RAF. As soon as they hit 60, I want to go lvl either a shaman or a mage or a warrior....SO MANY DECISIONS!!! My warlock is dinging right along, as my boyfriend is gifting her levels as well. I'm quite thrilled. I really like being a spriest. I just got VE last night, so I'm thinking talentwise, I'll throw points into Discipline for even more survivalbility. I only die if I'm fighting two or more mobs and I go OOM. The bf is a rogue, so handling three to four mobs is easy for some reason. I dot them up, throw on VT, bubble us, and we live!

But what do you think we should level next?! I need some help deciding. hehe.

( Rambling )

Last night, whilst idling in IF on my hunter alt with my husband's warrior alt, someone struck up an interesting convo. ( Cut for image heavyness. )

My only level 70 character is a hunter. My only raiding character is a hunter. I know my class. When it comes up in forums like wow_ladies I pay attention. I pay extra attention in Blizz interviews and such when the word "hunter" shows up in any way shape or form. My ears perk up, so to speak.

So when I say that even if you are marksman and not beast mastery like me, you should have your pet out, I know what I am talking about. It may not be your main source of DPS like it is for me, and that may make you feel like you're better than me somehow, and you may feel inclined to prove it*, but it your DPS will take a hit for it. You will not perform as well. Blizzard has stated that with hunters and warlocks, they ALWAYS want the pets to figure in, no matter what spec.

Getting on your paladin, all decked in purples, helping us down the boss, and then sending me a condescending little whisper is not going to prove that you are more of a man. It just proves that well... your hunter is your alt, MY hunter is my main. I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT, YOU WASTE OF SPERM.

*Sources tell me that the pet was out when the MM hunter in question was in the instance with a survival hunter- but of course, as soon as the BM hunter and her raptor show up, the MM pet disappears... IS SOMEONE TRYING TO PROVE A POINT, Y/Y?

X-posted to my own journal.

Anyone who's not a writer or an RPer or something like that will think I'm nuts, but what hurts me is when even RPers think I'm nuts.

I RP and I write. I've written three unpublished novellas, and my toons are just more canvas for me to play on. My home is Moon Guard Alliance and I've had such a blast playing my priestess and my other assorted alts and all their flaws and perks and imperfections. Sometimes, characters get away from me. I'm not saying like, I walk around my real life saying I hear their voices or something. But if I'm RPing, and I want a toon to do X, sometimes Y will come out of my fingers and into the message window. Good characters have a voice and a face and a mood of their own.

Tonight I took my priestess out of an RP situation because she was so clearly unhappy and zoning out. I had a friend whisper me going "why did you leave?" and when I explained he said "you're crazy, you know that?"

That hurt. Really hurt. My real life is stressful and busy - I'm in flippin' law school - and I can manage it just fine thank you. This guy is a friend, and a writer - I thought he would understand. A character with no voice is nothing. Less than one dimensional.

I suppose this is just a vent, but really, am I insane, or just a writer?

Just thought I'd give an update on the ex situation -- you know, the one where he invited his new gf to my main's server? Yeah.

Well, thanks to you ladies, I haven't talked to him in about a week, maybe more. In fact, haven't even seen him online. Didn't add his gf to my friends, can't even remember her name. But I don't pay attention to it, really. (I'd put him on ignore, but I think they have to be online for you to do that, and he hasn't been online at the same time as me for a while.) I don't think she'll play much, and that might keep him off, too. The priest who used to run with us doesn't approve of her playing with us, either, so that helps -- we've been helping each other level, leaving them to decide what they're gonna do.

I got a message from him yesterday, which was surprising (and someone upsetting -- really don't want to talk to him or hear from him). The title said, "As I promised," and the message? He had a link to the prepaid cards, and then had the number for the card he bought me. Well, he did say he'd pay for a couple months for me... So it was a pleasant surprise, since I was trying to figure out how I was going to pay in a couple days when this free month is up. I told him I didn't expect it, but thanked him anyway. And that was that.

So. Doing well on that front! :) Thank you gals for encouraging me to not give up my rogue. As a reward, I finally dinged 35 last night. Halfway there! Well... sort of. I highly doubt I'll hit 70 before Wrath comes out. But it was still a good feeling, especially now that I'm excited about every talent point and far more confident in my soloing capabilities.

I've also been working on my pally a bit... My coworkers and I all play, and we created a guild and all that. One of my coworkers fell behind because she couldn't pay for a while, but she finally found the money and we're helping her catch up. It's a fun group. I actually went in to work last night to bug one of my coworkers (I said I would when we were playing the night before that) and we talked about making twinks and running instances and such. Makes me feel loved, and I think I need a bit of social activity these days.

Sorry for the rambling. :) Just wanted to thank you girls for accepting me here and helping me with that tough situation. <3

There's a newish raider who drives me insane and is becoming a serious distraction to me.  He won't shut up about unrelated, uninteresting topics on vent, often makes sexist jokes and loves talking about prostitutes, and when he gets bored during raid he types gibberishishy verses into guild chat.  He's not a very competent player.  He's also really annoying on our forums because he's very anti-teen and continuously grovels to the officers, which is just, well, disgusting.  He acts like everything we do was done just for him which gives a very bad impression of the GM.

He got a guild invite because he's a friend of the GM's.

I'm fine working with an arrogant, pushy jerk who's a good player, or one who's not but is really nice and friendly, but being neither I feel no obligation other than common courtesy to put up with him.  That common courtesy often wears thin (I'm not a particularly patient or loving person) and about 1/2 the raids I run with him I end the night pissed and wanting to strangle someone.

I've taken to playing music during raids to help take the burn off, but it's not enough.  I love my guild and wouldn't leave or ever quit raiding.  As a solution I keep mindlessly toggling him on and off ignore.  I really want to do it, but if he whispers me and learns he's being ignored ... --> guild drama.  Likewise with vent, but there I'm worried I'll miss something important from him since he often asks questions about encounters so it'd be strange to only hear the answer.  However with other guilds I know people did it often, and in kara it wiped us once because a rogue had the MT on mute.

My other concern is that others have the same opinion of him, but I'm one of the only ones who say anything.  If I mute and ignore him, I can't keep him in check and it could snowball if people start thinking his style of chat is acceptable.

Therefore, I'm asking the general community - is it okay to put an annoying and disruptive raider on ignore and mute?  Have you done it before?  Under what circumstances and did it work out?  Did your officers approve?

For reference, this is my warrior:


I was milling around as him, joined up with a group from a guild, and we ended up doing two instances together. After that, they had a ZA raid where they invited me to come tank. I checked with my guild and they were off doing Sunwell so I was free to go. :)

We were only able to kill bear, but it was the most awesome raid ever. XD lol Hilarious guild.
The raid leader got into a conversation about something, I forget now, and a guildie replied,
"Too bad 'cause both of our tanks are female. lol"
Him: Well I have Met! He's a great dude.
Guildie: ... lol
Male Tauren tank (also girl irl): *rolls on the floor laughing*
Me: Um... I'm a girl.
Him: ...
Him (sends tell): Sorry for calling you dude all those times.


Totally made my day. rofl

( QQ: lost guild and missing guild member. )


Question 1: does gquit-ing while you're the leader of a guild, disband that guild? Or did my flaky friend have to do something even more complex to accomplish that?

Question 2: if you mail something to someone and they never log in to retrieve their mail, what happens to it? Do you get any sort of notification that they never got it? Or will it stay in their inbox past the 29 days that it implies you have?


Looking for Guild: does anyone horde-side on Silver Hand (US) have room for a part-time lvl 38 rogue? (She's more or less my main, but I spend ~2/3 of my time on my Alliance toons.) Something socially oriented, or even a vanity or alt guild; I wouldn't be much help to a raiding guild. I just want a guild name so people don't pester me to join their omgawesome raid guilds -- and preferably, something on my tabard. Having fun people to chat with would be a huge bonus.

I'm thinking of transferring her to the server my Alliance toons are on, but that won't happen until at least after Darkmoon Faire comes around (too much stuff in the bank waiting to turn in! And waiting to see if some mail is ever delivered.) If I end up with a fun bunch of people to chat with, I may not transfer her at all.

My GL said he was going to Mags and they needed healers. I figured 'why not?' Even if it was fail it was a raid and it would be fun. Not like a really needed anything in there. So, I join up and hop on their vent (it was mainly a guild run) and the run begins.

It was hilarious.

The main guy talking in vent was mean. He was really mean. Yet somehow he was incredibly funny. We got down to mags with no problems and they're a disorganised mess. No-one knows what's going on, healer assignments were vague at the best of times so, first attempt we get Mags down to 97% and he disappears... everything resets and we start again.

Around this point in time my GL suggests tanking Mag against the wall and I randomly said something to him in vent. There is a minute of complete silence and then 'Fuck, there's a girl on vent!' and then more silence. I cracked up. We start again.

This time everything is fine and the RL is talking the entire time with memorable quotes like:
'Alright girls, all of you get ready. To your positions... now click click click click. Chris, stop drinking paint from the can' (This was at one of the blast waves and someone had to click cause a guy was too slow)
and
'Girls, feel free to not stand in the fire'
and
'Can I have your babies?' to which some other guy goes 'Sorry, I'm already pregnant'
It was all very non-PC and such but this guy was so funny that no-one seemed to care.

So, we -somehow- down Mags and everyone is celebrating when one guy starts swearing on vent. About 1 second later everything that should've looted off Mags pops up asking me if I want to 'need', 'greed' or 'pass'. Yes, they left group loot on. What followed was easily the strangest looting of a 25-man I've ever seen. No-one knew whether to roll, to pass or if it was just a bug... eventually part of the raid rolled, part of the raid passed and most of the guildies were trying to get as much DKP out of the mistake as they could.

It was so bad yet so hilarious.

I'm gonna QQ now, just for a bit.

( When men are stupid D: )

He's probably already ridden it, too, against our deal. *scowl*

tl;dr- Boyfriend doesn't get how much it meant to me to help him get his warlock pony.

Addendum: And now he wants to help ME get mine by paying for the last 80 g, even though I've already said I want to get it myself (as he helped me pay for the 40 mount and I promptly liquidated the next 20 g I got to pay him back and worked from scratch again).

I'll probably run Deadmines and sell the loot. If he wants to go off and get it himself, I will too, then maybe he'll get it. *sigh*

Easily the dumbest person ever.

I came from a very successful PuG Gruuls run into Shat and immediately got whispered by a 70 Rogue asking for help with Normal Mana Tombs. I figure 'Hey, why not? It's normal mana tombs! The rogue could be tanking and I could heal it!' so I get summoned down to Mana Tombs where they're upto just before the second boss. Lvl 67 tank with 7k BUFFED health can't hold aggro off me and I die. I run back and have a little discussion with the rogue (10K buffed health) about being my aggro shield (Pretty much a 'if you get aggro, I can heal you. If I get aggro I die and then we all die' discussion). He agrees.

From there till the second boss there is this weird but actually really fun game of pass the aggro where everyone has aggro at some point of time yet no-one manages to die. We arrive at the big stone dude and everyone is like 'Okay! We are ready!' The tank doesn't move. 'Uhh, tank? Go?' what's the response we get? 'I'm scared. He's big'. At that point in time the rogue is psting me about how much he wishes he could strangle the tank and then the tank finally goes. Long story short, the Rogue tanked the boss and I healed and the tank... who knows?

Mail shoulders drop. They give +spell dmg, +mp5, +str, +int and +stam. The mage in the group immediately says they can de and everyone figures that's cool since none of us had any use for the shoulders. Apparently the Prot Warrior tank thought he should have them because, I quote, 'They're mail'. He needed and won the shoulders. My response was 'You don't even HAVE mana' and then 'How old ARE you?' The response? 17. WTF?

At this point in time me and the rogue are having a massive bitch session. We switched the loot to master loot so he couldn't pull that again when my friend came online. He happens to be a rogue in what he calls T5.5. I somehow manage to convince him that he should tank Mana Tombs for us, we kick the tank, and have the run done in about 10/15 minutes.

Rogues can so tank.

Grrr. I just logged off my Hordie server because I can't stand to hear one more idiot say one more homophobic thing in general chat.

( rant. with swearing. )

Rar.

So I'm gonna rant here, maybe it will bleed off the urge to say/do something stupid. I'm feeling massively discontented.

( Advance raiding group is assy to non-raiding guildies, WHAT A SURPRISE. )

Okay, WTF.

I'm half tempted just to /gquit in disgust. Aside from a couple personal friends who are helpful, nobody in this guild ever does anything to help anyone but themselves.

Although even /gquitting wouldn't address things fully. I'll be damned if I get shut out of the raid channel, a lot of good friends of mine from other guilds are there.

What should I do?

So, this one goes out to all girls out there who have boy toons.

I've got two 70 mains, a female dwarf warrior (Lucrezia) and a male human fiery mage (Honou.) ( Read more... )

If anyone has had this happen to them, please post your lolanecdotes and/or thoughts.

I'm SO pissed off at this one guy in my guild. He's a complete and utter idiot, but in that way that's just annoying but you can't really do anything about it? He just yaps constantly and tells dumb jokes and laughs when he wins a T4 token and you don't. Know the type? Basically he has the maturity of a potted plant. No wait, that's insulting to plants.

So okay, I'm not very good at hiding my utter dislike for him. I make comments, always followed by a XD or a =) or something to take the edge off, so it doesn't count as outright bitchiness. Then earlier we were about to do Netherspite and we were paired together for the portal phase. He goes:

[idiot]: I don't know if we can work together, she's so angry all the time.
[idiot]: hormones
[idiot]: :P

When will guys learn that using the whole 'hormones/on her period' thing is NOT okay. Especially when you don't even KNOW the person. I was too angry to even say anything, and besides, if I'd made any kind of retort he'd have just gone "lol see? hormones :D" You can't f'ing win when they pull crap like that.

GRRRRRRRRRRR.

EDIT: Many people have suggested I talk to the guild leader, I have. The GL is my brother and he apparently just thinks the guy is funny. And the thing is, I don't really have much to justify complaining about him. Like another guildie said "You can't whisper him and go 'Sorry, you did great on that last fight but can you stop being such an annoying dumbass?'" He's not hurtful or insulting (apart from the hormones thing and guys just DON'T get that), so there's not much the GL can do. And another thing, if my bro -did- talk to him it'd look like some kind of favoritism 'cause I'm his little sister. x_x

"Women are treated better than men online," says NerdBoobLoot-man in a totally non-scientific study of vocal users on Allakazam.

*- if those women are male players playing for other mens' expectations.

A quick story with a moral.

I was doing my dailies today on Quel'Danas. We all know how it is when it gets to be afternoon. Everyone's doing the same thing, and sometimes two or more people go after the same mob. It happens, but everything respawns quickly, so you just try to be quick about tagging something.

So I randomly get this:


I report him, and on a whim, I check his info. Turns out the guy's in a guild run by an ex-guildie and friend of mine.

So we talk, and it turns out the the guy's only there as a favor to a friend. I don't think he'll be there for much longer, though. Plus, a GM's talking to him as I type this.

Moral of the story: be nice to people, because you never know who they know.

Has anyone seen this thread? Oh, the naïveté. Oh yeah, guys are always so nice to girl players! Not quite that clear-cut, dear. And being surrounded by all these men is 'heaven'. Riiiiight...

On a positive note though - my allie guild rocks, I'm 15000 points away from being exalted with Darnassus and I have almost enough money to buy a mount :) At lvl 25 and being a draenei.

And on my main - I'm this close to being exalted with all of the horde and buying every mount horde has to offer :)  I'm particularely looking forward to Kodo, there's just something so very fun about a little blood elf rising a huge beast :)  ANd yes, my guild there is wonderful too :)

Thank you for listening and this concludes my QQ session