Marilyn ([info]daenarys) wrote in [info]wow_ladies,
@ 2007-08-20 12:13:00
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For gods sake! Please stop 'saving' me!

I'm grinding consortiuum rep as a holy priest. You know what? I can handle it. I can even take three mobs on me at once. I'm holy, not gimped. I just dotted that mob so I can take it after I've dealt with this one.

STOP STEALING MY MOBS!

/rage

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[info]ysathora
2007-08-20 11:45 am UTC (link)
I hate it when people do that. That's why if I see someone covered in mobs, I just stand back and heal rather than steal a mob from them. Usually it's pretty apparent after a couple of seconds that they know what they're doing.

(I love that hunters and druids always think they need to save my poor paladin. Thanks, but no thanks.)

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[info]daenarys
2007-08-20 12:15 pm UTC (link)
Aye, I've not died with my holy priest soloing since he hit 70, disc/holy priest are impossible to kill if they have mana.

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[info]phoenix_singing
2007-08-20 01:33 pm UTC (link)
I always giggle a little when random 70s see my little 66 hunter with a mob or two on her pet and sometimes one in a trap and decide she needs rescuing. I don't mind it because it gets me out of combat sooner, but if I'm just farming, chances are I don't need it all that much.

(At level 12, my baby pally took on 3 or 4 same-level mobs and lived to tell the tale, and I'm not even that great of a player. lol @ people who think pallies die easily.)

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(no subject) - [info]enigsated, 2007-08-20 01:45 pm UTC (Expand)
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[info]natlet
2007-08-20 02:24 pm UTC (link)
Ditto, I'll either heal or drop DoT's on mobs that they've already tagged as theirs.

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[info]metaphora
2007-08-20 02:30 pm UTC (link)
Oh man, I love to watch paladins fight. I try not to gawk, but it always amazes me when they come out of a fight with 6 mobs with barely even a scratch, sit down for some water and do a /wave at me.

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(no subject) - [info]ysathora, 2007-08-21 02:44 am UTC (Expand)

[info]kimothy
2007-08-20 12:06 pm UTC (link)
How does one "steal" a mob?

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[info]daenarys
2007-08-20 12:14 pm UTC (link)
They hit it before the first tick of a dot I've just put on. It take three seconds for SW:P to tick and grey the mob to them.

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(no subject) - [info]surlywench, 2007-08-20 08:20 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]copperbird
2007-08-20 12:10 pm UTC (link)
Oh man, I hate it when people pull a mob just after I dotted it but before the first tick.

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[info]ktknievel
2007-08-20 12:15 pm UTC (link)
I'm guilty of it with my mage because I'm actually in the process of casting frost bolt when someone comes along and dots it. I've had to get in the habit of putting Detect Magic on mobs to 'mark' them in heavy farming areas, which of course is always ignored by people who come by to dot 3 and 4 mobs. Or I have to pull with ice lance which is a great power, but messes with my slowing cycle.

So yeah... take a look around the corner for the person that has a long cast time. Not everyone likes to pull with a DoT!

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(no subject) - [info]daenarys, 2007-08-20 12:16 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]ktknievel, 2007-08-20 12:24 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]daenarys, 2007-08-20 12:28 pm UTC (Expand)
Just my luck probably... - [info]dawn_again, 2007-08-20 08:13 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]maladaptive, 2007-08-20 01:33 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]amarafox
2007-08-20 12:40 pm UTC (link)
Dear mages and priests and other casters.

I, as a warrior, either have 2 options. Slowass bow/gun or slowass run + charge.

If you see me running in the general direction of a mob, I am going to charge it regardless. I saw it first. Stop instatagging my mobs.

Love, Grunkk D:

I've also helped some priests like you, but they've said 'Please don't hep me! I'm fine' and I've said OK and we've gone on our merry way :)

The only time I will tap a mob that is on someone else is when they are running away and almost dead and without mana D:

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[info]daenarys
2007-08-20 12:47 pm UTC (link)
Here's the thing, I don't mind legitimate attempts to grab mobs, you charge a mob, get first swing in, that's fine, I don't even mind giving up the mana for that dot. When you watch me fighting for a time and then wallop a mob I've just dotted, not cool. I tend to play fair with mobs, I won't tag something someone else is already going for.

If I'm running and you take a mob I will love you forever, I'm irritated by the attitude that holy priests can't solo.

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[info]tokudama
2007-08-20 12:42 pm UTC (link)
I normally agree - except when the person dotting has dotted six mobs at once, and has done it when they saw me running past their group of already-engaged mobs, and decided to grab some more just to piss me off.

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[info]daenarys
2007-08-20 12:49 pm UTC (link)
Totally agree, I don't understand why people think they're entitled to every single mob in the vicinity.

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[info]phoenix_singing
2007-08-20 01:25 pm UTC (link)
I'll just mouse over people as I run past to check their health, and if they seem to be in serious trouble I'll help out. Other than that, I assume they have the situation under control. =)

Unless you're that rogue we saw a couple of nights ago at the Singing Ridge, doing that beacon quest. He died, my friend rez'd him, he came back and died in the same spot. In the same way. Didn't even try to fight the mob (one mob!) that was chewing his face off. And then he did it again. So we decided, no more heals for j00 until you lrn2play, and we went on about our business. >.>

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[info]ilanalynn
2007-08-20 01:31 pm UTC (link)
I HATE that. Augh. Happens to me all the time. Holycrit spec ftw!

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[info]daenarys
2007-08-20 01:56 pm UTC (link)
Smitespec!

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[info]equiraptor
2007-08-20 01:38 pm UTC (link)
You didn't mention this, so I don't know if it's the case or not (and I haven't done much BC grinding), but you did mention they were rep related mobs... If there's a shortage of rep related mobs, and someone aggros a few, and I don't see any others alive, I'll try to steal one, because DAMINT YOU SHOULDN'T GET 3 WHILE I GET NONE! But it sounds like that's probably not the case here.

If I want to help make sure someone doesn't die, I'll stand back and wait and watch. If I'm on a character that can heal, I'll heal if you get low. If I can't heal, I'll generally wait until the other is at both low health and low mana before attacking, or at least wait for you to tag the mob if I'm going to help before the situation looks dire.

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[info]daenarys
2007-08-20 01:56 pm UTC (link)
No there were plenty of mobs around, I'd carved a little niche of about seven mobs that I would go around and kill as the were spawning at an easy to kill rate. As far as I can tell there are about fifty mobs of that type in that area and I'd seen only one other person grinding all morning. No she was just trying to be 'helpful' I think (I admit I'm not 100% sure.)

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[info]enigsated
2007-08-20 01:47 pm UTC (link)
I'm guilty of it once in a while, but only because I didn't realise that you have dotted it first until it's too late.

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[info]miyva
2007-08-20 02:40 pm UTC (link)
When farming on my hunter, I get into a rhythm of send pet, lay trap, pull next mob into trap, kill mob, send pet, lay trap etc.

Once, when farming on elemental plateau I had a warrior -repeatedly- charge my trapped, tagged mobs and kill them. Even when I sent him a tell saying, hey, they're tagged, you might not want to bother. He still did it. *facepalm* I just left him to it in the end. Hey, free kills, I'm not complaining.

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[info]twocorpses
2007-08-20 03:23 pm UTC (link)
I did that once by mistake - took someone's mob. I didn't intend to actually take it... just to offer help. So now I don't bother. :\

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[info]daenarys
2007-08-20 08:26 pm UTC (link)
Once is fine, don't worry about it :)

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[info]yisca
2007-08-20 03:27 pm UTC (link)
Sorry, but as someone who has a priest myself and farm with my hunter I DO help out if I see a healer grind. No, I don't multishoot, but only attack the mobs that are greyed out for me and THUS tagged already. Sheesh, if others had such an attitude as you next time I'd consider standing by watching and giggling.

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[info]pyrokinesis
2007-08-20 04:01 pm UTC (link)
I don't think the attitude is about helping with grayed mobs, as indicated by comments above, but rather, those that get stuck into their adds before the first tick of sw:p has gone off. ;)

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[info]mrs_slats
2007-08-20 04:07 pm UTC (link)
<-- Hunter.

I only start helping when they start running like hell. If I can grab the mobs at least I can feign!

Then they get their mobs back. :-)

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[info]celticmuse
2007-08-20 04:11 pm UTC (link)
I've had the same problem. Drop SW:P, start casting, and juuuuust before the spell pops off, pow!, an arrow or gunshot out of nowhere and the mob goes grey. Argh!

Another time I've found this annoying is when I'm leveling a weapon skill. I'm really bad about keeping my skills up. I use a polearm for forever and then get a great sword drop and look and see that my sword skill is at 120 when everything else is at say 225. So ... I go pick on something that will be a fairly slow kill and hack and hack and hack and whack and watch my points tick up. Invariably after a prolonged fight (mob down to half health, but hey I've gotten 20 skill points) someone will run over and one shot it to "save" me.

Mm. Uh. Thanks.

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[info]kalorlo
2007-08-20 07:37 pm UTC (link)
As Alliance I go and level my weapon skills in Stockades. No one around to be "helpful", the mobs are small and elite so you can whack at them without dying too fast. Plus you get to sell everything afterwards :)

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[info]jadziabryn
2007-08-20 04:19 pm UTC (link)
I... hate it when people help me and I don't need it.

I got that with my Pally all the time. DUDE, PALADIN.

Unless ALL my cooldowns are down, and I'm OOM, and I have eightybajillion mobs on me, I'll be FINE.

Oh man, I'm 70 now, but for some reason this one still annoys me... when I was in the 40s, leveling in STV, I got a little low on mana. So I popped seal of wisdom, judged it on the nearest mob, popped seal again, and settled in for a slow, but mana-bar-refilling fight.

Then a level 70 popped by, dismounted and one shotted it. I was like. O.O YOU KILLED MY MANA BATTERY ZOMG! lol

I still wonder if he/she expected a thank you. I just rolled my eyes and ran off to find another mob. :P

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[info]daenarys
2007-08-20 08:30 pm UTC (link)
I've had that when I've just popped my shadowfiend and they kill the mob it was on *sigh*.

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[info]power_puffs_lab
2007-08-20 04:34 pm UTC (link)
Yeah I can kill them but they die a lot faster when a lock tosses a dot on as they run past or a hunter tosses off an arrow or two or that rogue just kills it. Saves me mana and as long as I've got it tagged and they are -helping- not stealing my mob then I'm grateful, EVEN when I could handle it myself. And you know what next time I run past them I'll likely toss them a renew or dot thier mob or even SW:D a runner.

It's not rude to help someone. It is rude to steal someone's mob. Just look at it as a mana saver not an insult.

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[info]daenarys
2007-08-20 08:33 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I understand what you mean, I threw this post up in the middle of a grind break so I wasn't too clear what had happened. My 'helper' waited for me to throw up a dot and then hit it. I tend to dot other people's mobs if they're grey.

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[info]ktnb81
2007-08-20 04:36 pm UTC (link)
What always amuses me is when someone steals a mob from me and can't handle it, and then expects me to help them kill it. Sorry, but if you steal my mob, you're not getting any heals from me, and I will stand there and watch you die.

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[info]daenarys
2007-08-20 08:36 pm UTC (link)
Yeah I admit that's quite funny.

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[info]ebbtide
2007-08-20 05:10 pm UTC (link)
Because of this I often open with MB rather than VT or SW:P when I'm farming... or even SW:D if I'm feeling masochistic...

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[info]daenarys
2007-08-20 08:36 pm UTC (link)
I miss being shadow sometimes...

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[info]asciident
2007-08-20 06:11 pm UTC (link)
your post spawned http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/20/trust-me-everything-is-under-control/ ;)

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[info]daenarys
2007-08-20 08:39 pm UTC (link)
*rolls eyes* Typical that's it's the frothing at the mouth, 'I'm pissed as hell and not gonna take it anymore' post that gets yoinked ;) Thanks for letting me know.

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