Lane ([info]lane) wrote in [info]worldofwarcraft,
@ 2008-02-20 11:30:00
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Flight Form Dilema
So, my NE druid is 69.5. I've leveled her entirely off of rested experience and as a result she's not even into Nagrand yet. Suffice it to say, she's terribly undergeared.

I've got 3000g on her and the other 2k is just a matter of my selling my Blessings deck. Problem is, I don't know what my chances are of getting a group to do heroic Sethekk Halls. I already know that as a PUG it's absolutely zero. She's feral, she has no tanking gear, and even if I did respec she has no healing gear either.

She's also unguilded and I only know one person Alliance-side anymore.

So, other than bribing people I don't know what my options are to get this done, which is why I hate it when Blizzard forces you to group to do stuff like this. (I'm lucky I got it done on my tauren.)

I could really care less about the mount and I've heard some raiders will run heroic Sethekk Halls whenever they have the chance to obtain said mount, so I suppose that's something. Other than that, I don't know. I could offer to pay all repair bills with a tip on the side?

Anyone ever heard of just running random druids through heroic Sethekk Halls for their quest (with some incentive)?



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[info]shuspidey1218
2008-02-20 04:45 pm UTC (link)
Maybe if you catch people on a day when heroic Seth happens to be the daily you can get lucky. Also, use the fact that you can summon the otherwise-unseen second boss to your advantage, to entice people with an extra badge and some more loot.

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[info]z_o_e
2008-02-20 04:51 pm UTC (link)
Oooh, yeah, good idea. People will be looking for a group anyway, just mention that you need the druid flight form boss, and remind them that he might drop the mount, and I'm sure you'll be invited.

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[info]lane
2008-02-20 04:53 pm UTC (link)
I've thought of that, but I can't imagine anyone wanting to take an undergeared, second rate DPS for it. :\

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[info]whizzy
2008-02-20 04:53 pm UTC (link)
i've actually done that just for a shot at the mount the extra boss drops. :) we had a clear instance and someone had to leave, so we advertised in LFG for a druid that could summon it.

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[info]bryneshrimp
2008-02-20 04:54 pm UTC (link)
Why don't you spend a little time gearing yourself up first? If you don't know anyone, the only way you're getting into a heroic at that gear level is as a charity case.

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[info]lane
2008-02-20 05:09 pm UTC (link)
Because there's no such thing as a "little time" when it comes to gearing. It took my other two 70s several months to adequately gear themselves and that's when I had less going on in my life than I do now.

I'm trying to not be a charity case by offering to pay repair bills plus a bit on the side, but yeah, fact of the matter is I'm still going to need to ride coattails somewhat.

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(no subject) - [info]liesk, 2008-02-20 05:19 pm UTC
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[info]theantipoet
2008-02-20 05:01 pm UTC (link)
make a post on your realm forums looking for people.

I think well-geared, bored raiders are more likely to read the forums than hang out on the LFG channel.

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[info]fordarkness
2008-02-20 06:06 pm UTC (link)
Gads, that's what one of our hunter officers does. He's a well-known forum troll on several Blizzard forums.

Fortunately, he's only once crossed the line in trolling that got him a verbal slapping from the guild leader and officers. Other than that, they let him have his fun.

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[info]puppy_tenchan
2008-02-20 05:06 pm UTC (link)
What server are you on? Maybe there are even people in this community who'd offer a run.

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[info]lane
2008-02-20 05:23 pm UTC (link)
Ysera, Alliance. I didn't want to make anything formal since I probably won't be 70 until this weekend at the earliest and I still have to sell that deck. >_<

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(no subject) - [info]sugarhi2468, 2008-02-20 06:54 pm UTC

[info]heinous_bitca
2008-02-20 05:13 pm UTC (link)
A druid was spamming trade one morning LFG for Heroic Sethekk. I figured it was for his run, and asked him his spec, which was moonkin. So I said I'd tank if he could find a group. I already had it, I figured it wouldn't be THAT bad. We rounded up a priest to heal, a mage, and warlock. I figured it'd actually be really easy with that group.

Well, we wiped twice on the first boss, and after finally getting him down, had problems the guard pairs after that. The warlock conveniently went "offline" when we realized we'd never make it in the timer (we actually were doing it in the morning before the reset! Bad idea.), so we called it.

I told the druid I'd try to get a guild group together to go later in the day. Sure enough, we rounded up a rogue, a frost mage, and a tree druid. So we had only battle rezzes, and it took us a number of wipes, and we skipped Ikiss, but we got him his flight form.

Edited at 2008-02-20 05:13 pm UTC

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[info]lane
2008-02-20 05:29 pm UTC (link)
Sounds like when my tauren did it. My boyfriend tanked with his druid, we had a resto druid main healer, an MS/fury warrior dps, and myself DPSing as feral. I forget who our 4th was because we ended up replacing them with a holy priest.

We wiped sooo many times. Most everyone's gear ended up broken at one point or another. I ended up donating gold to the non-druids for helping for repairs.

There's no way we could have completed that quest were it not for pulling the raven god into the next room (which they subsequently fixed a day or so later). We had no real means of AoE, those birds were destroying us.

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(no subject) - [info]bryneshrimp, 2008-02-20 06:17 pm UTC

[info]fordarkness
2008-02-20 06:08 pm UTC (link)
Know what I just realized? Any non-druid level 70 can get an epic flyer no matter what their gear is. All they need is 5000g. Druids, on the other hand, need 5000g *and* the capability to run a heroic level instance. WTF up with that??

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(no subject) - [info]lane, 2008-02-20 06:15 pm UTC
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[info]shotie
2008-02-20 05:13 pm UTC (link)
I'd just wait until SH is the Heroic Daily, and then ask em if they'd mind doing the Raven God real quick. I'm sure the fact that there's a chance a rare mount might drop is more than enough temptation for plenty of people. :)

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[info]tsgeisel
2008-02-20 05:26 pm UTC (link)
You may want to just put yourself out as a charity case - there *are* nice people out there.

Offering to cover repair costs shouldn't hurt either.

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[info]leopardeternal
2008-02-20 05:43 pm UTC (link)
I'd go just to go, if youknow I wasn't on a different server and horde.

What is it about Sethekk Halls? I have yet to get a group there, I've got 3 or 4 quests to do there, one of which is green now. I don't even know whats in there, so honestly, why is it so hard to find a group of people willing to go?

Oddly enough, all the Auchindoun instances seem to be undesirable. I think I've had the hardest time getting groups there of all the outlands instances. Not including the Netherstorm instances since I haven't even attempted to go there. Why is that?

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[info]shuspidey1218
2008-02-20 05:47 pm UTC (link)
2 bosses in the time it takes to do four in other dungeons. Plus in heroic, those guard duos are a real pain. Also, the unsheepable mobs kinda suck.

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(no subject) - [info]leopardeternal, 2008-02-20 06:17 pm UTC
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[info]wytchfynder
2008-02-20 06:02 pm UTC (link)
Another idea might be to spend some time with the loot tables and figure out who might be interested in Sethekk. Take warriors: the best pre-Netherspite plate tanking shoulders drop off Ikiss, so a mid-Kara warrior should be an easy "sell" on the place. Likewise, other druids.

I agree with the others that Sethekk Halls heroic day is a good bet for you.

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[info]almostgold
2008-02-20 06:06 pm UTC (link)
On our server, heroic sethekk halls runs seem to come up pretty often. Also it is a common daily heroic. So, it should not be too awful to get a group together for it. However, the gear issue may be a no go. Are you a LW? If so, you can make yourself some blue cat gear as your starter set. If not, then you will want to go to wow-loot.com and take a peak at their druid class list with its questable/purchasable gear list. If you don't want to gear up before going in there, then yes, you would need to be paying folks, and finding a very well geared group to basically let you tag along.

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[info]lane
2008-02-20 06:18 pm UTC (link)
Nope, not leatherworking, but like I said, I don't have a problem paying repair bills and tossing in some extra on the side.

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[info]hellfire99x
2008-02-20 06:16 pm UTC (link)
Ugh, if you were on my server, I'd definitely offer to help out. I've main-healed heroic SH a few times on my pally, including the druid boss. He's a bastard though... last time I did it, we only barely scraped by with everybody alive.

Randomly, I need to finish saving up for my epic flying mount so I can finally go Holy without regrets. >.<

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[info]redarius
2008-02-20 06:36 pm UTC (link)
It's already been said but wait for the day that sethekk halls is the heroic, and join LFG since you don't have any guild supporting you. Do try to work on your gear so you can support as kitty dps or whatever it is you do in instances with mediocre gear as a druid. If you haven't hit Nagrand yet, you should *zoom* through those quests at 70. Some of the blue drops at the ends of the quest chains have enough oomph to carry you at 70 as long as you're trying. I think there's a decent blue druid staff at the end of a very simple quest chain at the CE outpost in Blade's Edge too, but I don't pay attention to druid loot so I could be way off.

We routinely bring along at least one undergeared alt or toon in my guild heroic runs, and as long as folks are paying attention it's ok. I've seen folks looking for druids on that quest for a chance at the raven mount, so I bet you'll have some bites if you put a group together.

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[info]mr_eleganza
2008-02-20 06:45 pm UTC (link)
I don't know if it's comparable to the Warlock Epic Mount quest, but I happily run other locks through that just becaue it makes me sad to see a 60+ lock on a dreadsteed...

If I had a druid I'd do the same for the flight form although I realise it's considerably harder...

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[info]lane
2008-02-20 07:05 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I'm kind of worried that once WotLK comes out it'll be near impossible to get groups for it because everyone will be leveling and/or busy with the new end game to bother with the older stuff. Since it requires heroic Sethekk Halls I doubt it'll be as easy as a 70 doing Dire Maul/Scholomance, but who knows...

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[info]theantipoet
2008-02-20 07:13 pm UTC (link)
you know, you could also zone into Sethekk and spam /1 looking for groups that have already cleared the place... maybe they'd be willing to drop one member and invite you just to knock out the druid boss (especially if you say you'd pass on the epic ground mount ;))

that's how I got the scholo part of my warlock's epic mount quest completed back in the day.

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[info]lane
2008-02-20 07:21 pm UTC (link)
:o I didn't even think of that, that'd be great if it worked!

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[info]fadeout1930
2008-02-20 10:14 pm UTC (link)
I'd offer to take you along on our next run but wrong faction. :P

If you do herbalism on your druid it's so, so worth it even if you have to PUG it. We one shotted Anzu in our first trip into Sethek heroic so I think it's been substantially nerfed, btw.

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[info]bryneshrimp
2008-02-20 11:33 pm UTC (link)
It hasn't been nerfed, but the difference between having a druid who knows how to keep up the statues and one who doesn't (and having some AoE) is pretty extreme. If you're undergeared, it might be hard to be the druid tank on this fight.

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[info]diamondsremain
2008-02-21 05:04 am UTC (link)
You're not trying to be a charity case, but you want people to feel bad for you because you're in such a rush to get epic flight while apparently not geared enough to do heroics? Sure it takes time to gear up, but what's your hurry? It's going to help you in the long run to improve your overall gear, so why not do some regulars and whatnot to improve yourself and therefore won't get annhilated in heroic Sethekk?

I'm not saying you don't deserve to work for it, but you should actually... work for it. You're not instantly entitled to epic flight just because you know how to round up darkmoon cards and save money. The game is a progression.

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[info]lane
2008-02-21 05:25 am UTC (link)
Ah, you mean the gearing up I've done on two 70s already?

I never asked anyone to feel bad for me. I was looking for thoughts and suggestions given the circumstances. I don't have the time to devote to WoW that I used to have and with offering to pay repair bills (and then some), forfeiting any loot, and Hell, I'll even summon the raven god for the group any time we're online at the same time, I think I'm doing my best to offer everything feasible to not be a complete charity case.

Maybe you wouldn't feel inclined to help someone like me because I haven't "worked for it" on this particular character, but according to some others my potential offer isn't entirely distasteful.

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[info]zaychan
2008-02-21 08:01 am UTC (link)
You know, I wish I could help you, because I really don't find heroic sethekk all that hard. We sometimes have issues on the first boss if our mage lags but.. really? It's an easy clear. And Anzu is ice-cream pie easy, especailly if you keep the hots up.

Keep up hope, and just keep plugging away for the craftable druid gear in the mean time. Hell, I MT'd that place in heavy cleft, quest greens and Braxx's more than once :)

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