.·:*Stir Crazy*:·. ([info]sssexygirl) wrote in [info]worldofwarcraft,
@ 2005-11-12 23:45:00
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the "cleansing"
my server has ran amuck with tons of new players. the horde and alliance have came to the conclusion to have "the cleansing" we go and camp lowbie towns and try to scare the new players off.

this sounds mean and cruel, and it probably is. but we have become very tired of having server crashes and 50 minute login ques. i was against this at first until this week.

we were in molten core and the lag was so horrific that we couldnt even tell if we were fighting or not. we fight through it, get to domo.. domo down .. "crash". we come back to no ragnoros have to clear through the shit all over and kill domo all over again just to spawn rag.

i said ok its just lag its ok...
today at onyxia she is down to 10% SERVER CRASH. its been down for an hour or so now.


while i feel its cheap and mean to go camp lowbies something has to be done. we all pay money to play this game and we'd like to play it. however the recent inflation of new players coming to this server is a huge mistake. none of us can play, we cant even stay on very long without it dying.

i know for alliance side we are fed up with it. the horde have already started to take action and camp our towns.

i was asked to do the same to the horde. and after my whole weeks raiding has been messed up due to the ques and crashes i think i will.

sorry [info]grimmus if one of your alts gets rolled. you may just see me up in orgrimmar killen tiny hordies :(
EDIT:

ok some people dont really know how to read is what im thinking.. but anyways no where in this post was the word "guild" mentioned until now. no where in this post did i say that I did this.

at the end of this post i stated i was asked to do the same to the horde. and after my whole weeks raiding has been messed up due to the ques and crashes i think i will.

and lastly.. if you roll a pvp server expect to get pvped.. be it lowbies, vets, npcs, your gramma , my auntie you will get pvped!

PS: no animals were hurt during the cleansing ;)


EDIT 2 oh and since everyone is so upset about it you can feel free to mail bliz, speak on our forums do whatever you feel you have to do. if it takes a livejournal post full of emotionally charged individuals from all over the world to get them to pay attention more power to you. we've been screaming for 9 months good luck with that.



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[info]shotie
2005-11-13 04:59 am UTC (link)
while i feel its cheap and mean to go camp lowbies something has to be done. we all pay money to play this game and we'd like to play it. however the recent inflation of new players coming to this server is a huge mistake. none of us can play, we cant even stay on very long without it dying.

You're right, everyone does pay to play this game, even those lowbies you're slaughtering because of your selfish belief you are somehow entitled to the server moreso than a low-level character is.

Your problem is with Blizzard, not the damned newbies. Go take your problem up with them, instead of wrecking someone else's day. Killing lowbies isn't going to solve the problem, it's just going to piss off the wrong people for the wrong reasons.

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[info]xxshamelessxx
2005-11-13 05:05 am UTC (link)
/agree

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[info]hypotnos
2005-11-13 05:09 am UTC (link)
Let me guess..

are you on Warsong?

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[info]sssexygirl
2005-11-13 03:46 pm UTC (link)
sargeras ftl.

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[info]lavidaessueno
2005-11-13 05:10 am UTC (link)
Do you not see the irony here that you're doing to the lowbies exactly what is being done to you - namely, making it impossible for them to play the game?

How exactly is it the new players' fault that blizzard doesn't have enough server capacity? And how is killing them going to do anything other than put you on the opposing faction's list of known gankers?

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[info]ranxxerox
2005-11-13 05:15 am UTC (link)
the problem isnt that there's not enough player space on all the servers combined the problem is people keep on joining old/high population servers when they could just as easily join a new low pop realm. if lowbie areas are camped they'll realize that high pop servers are not the place to be before they've devoted too much time to their char.

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[info]reallife_batman
2005-11-13 05:24 am UTC (link)
Yeeeaahhhhh... um.... not a good idea to torture lowbies but I just rolled on Frostmourne (from Firetree) so we're all lowbies there =) hehe

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[info]bmg
2005-11-13 05:24 am UTC (link)
Why don't you just roll a new character on another server if you're tired of the lag?

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[info]shotiecat
2005-11-13 05:26 am UTC (link)
Don't you see? She's better than them! They should reroll, because they are lower level, not her or her guildmates who are griping! It's only fair! After all, only she and her guildmates pay to play the game, and those silly newbs don't, so she's entitled!

/sarcasm

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[info]zorgg
2005-11-13 06:02 am UTC (link)
Nice idea. Archimonde players should try it too.

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[info]sssexygirl
2005-11-13 11:41 pm UTC (link)
we had some of the ppl from your server as lvl 1's i gotta say they had the best names "gankmeplz" "cleanseme" it owned.. until my infernal slayed them on accident :(

i was bring it out for the players to kill and i guess when you first summon it has a small aoe. poor little gnomes died :(

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[info]stealingbabies
2005-11-13 06:03 am UTC (link)
Hmm. I've always been under the impression that instances are on a different "server" than the rest of the server. Considering that the instance "server" can go down and the rest of the game function fine.... I've seen this happen on a few occasions, actually. So the lag is going to be from all the other level 60s humping fire demons in MC, not from the level 5 killing troggs in Dun Morogh.

But, seriuosly, it's Blizzard's fault, not the low-ends. Griefing them because you think your $13 is worth more than theirs seems ridiculous.

(and, for the record, all servers crashed, not just yours... As in the login servers crashed. So you might need to grief all low-end characters across all servers in order for your plan to work)

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[info]sssexygirl
2005-11-13 04:12 pm UTC (link)
molten core is on the same bandwith(if you will) that AV is. one continent can crash and the other wont. this much is true. my money is not greater than thiers. i am NOT better than them. however because some people cant read the word FULL means we cant play. so we are paying for something we cannot play. its not the lowbies fault its not the vets fault. its blizzards fault. but again.. if killen the lowbies as your passing through lakeshire makes them log off.. then someone else can come no. its a never ending circle. and since bliz is doing nothing these factions are at least trying.

its messed up its shitty, its mean, its rude.. but its a game and noone cares in the end heh.

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[info]amypeterson
2005-11-13 06:22 am UTC (link)
OH noes! I'm perpetuating the lagyness of ER, all because my husband joined a server that had all of his friends on it instead of joining the server thatr *I* am on, and thus, forcing me to make another alt on an already full server!!

come on, come gank me

*in a pissy mood due to 'rpers' being fucktards and groping me, just f*cking try me*

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[info]djinubito
2005-11-13 04:24 pm UTC (link)
Not all RPers are fucktards. -_-

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[info]akumos
2005-11-13 06:35 am UTC (link)
It's not the right thing to do, but honestly, if a player gets camped for a day straight, comes back then next day, and is still being killed? They will quit. It could work, but I don't approve of it.

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[info]geg
2005-11-13 07:50 am UTC (link)
some... fight through the consistant ganking, level, bottle up the rage, and remember (or write down names) for a later more opportune time to pay someone back.

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[info]heart_teh_spam
2005-11-13 06:36 am UTC (link)
If this is Warsong you're talking about..

When I restarted playing WoW a few months ago, I found out that alot of my old friends had built up a very successful guild on Warsong. So.. you're saying that even though I pay just as much money as you do, I can't play my cute little lvl 19 rogue? I agree, crashing and lagging sucks. But I have every bit of right to play as you do, you are no better than me.

*proud lowbie of warsong* :D

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[info]calamariachi
2005-11-13 06:48 am UTC (link)
We may be of low level, but we are greater in numbers (and our will is strong!). If we unite, the lowbies will CRUSH the oppressive tardcores!

And we will take from them their [purple] monkey suits and THEY shall be the nubs! And THEY shall be our Minions! MUAHAHA!!

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If your concept of justice and logic had a baby, it would have an extra chromasome
[info]calamariachi
2005-11-13 06:42 am UTC (link)
while i feel its cheap and mean to go camp lowbies something has to be done.

● First thing that has to be done: raid lowbies.

● Second thing that has to be done: get lucky underwear for the next big raid on whatchyamajigger. *P.S.: PLZ let me finish my tier-1 monkey suit set!*

● Third thing that has to be done: file a complaint with Blizzard regarding the lag problem. *P.S. (again): ask Blizz if they think that my guild raiding lowbies might actually be helping the server lag problem.*

we all pay money to play this game and we'd like to play it.

HARD FACT #1: other people don't pay money to play this game, so making their game experience crappy as punishment for existing is called equal justice...or something. You are the elite and your game time is more valuable than theirs by default of your own awesomeness (and the fact that you can get away with it). (LOL@Horde nubs)

none of us can play, we cant even stay on very long without it dying.

Except it magically allows us to play when we're raiding lowbies to get revenge on them for existing.

...Well, I never thought it would, but it's happening...even to World of Warcraft, apparently. I always thought WoW would be newbie friendly, because it's such a social game...but clearly the veterans are once again trying to muscle out the little uns so their little 24-hour raiding shindig won't be interrupted by those ignorant little nubs and their silly nubby questions, like "LFG WC". Yes, when a problem arises it is always the fault of the little'uns.

I LOL @ people's excuses to take their server frustrations out by rolling on the low-levels. Like they're even the sole (or main) culprit.

I've got a possibility worth considering: maybe all that lag is a result of so many veterans playing non-stop, refusing to let go of their characters for more than an eight hour span. Maybe it is the hardcore players at fault, not the lowbies after all. Maybe, at the very least, a tiny little bit of the blame is shared by all.

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Re: If your concept of justice and logic had a baby, it would have an extra chromasome
[info]shotie
2005-11-13 07:09 am UTC (link)
I've got a possibility worth considering: maybe all that lag is a result of so many veterans playing non-stop, refusing to let go of their characters for more than an eight hour span. Maybe it is the hardcore players at fault, not the lowbies after all. Maybe, at the very least, a tiny little bit of the blame is shared by all.

ahaha! Perish the thought!

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Re: If your concept of justice and logic had a baby, it would have an extra chromasome - [info]calamariachi, 2005-11-13 07:16 am UTC
Re: If your concept of justice and logic had a baby, it would have an extra chromasome - [info]shotie, 2005-11-13 09:39 am UTC
Re: If your concept of justice and logic had a baby, it would have an extra chromasome - [info]aehallh, 2005-11-13 08:52 pm UTC
Re: If your concept of justice and logic had a baby, it would have an extra chromasome - [info]maladaptive, 2005-11-13 03:37 pm UTC

[info]hhallahh
2005-11-13 06:55 am UTC (link)
Eh, well I know I'll be in the minority here, but I think this kind of activity is somewhat defensible. Yes, it sucks if you have an alt or if you want to play with your friends. If you're that damn dedicated, I'm pretty sure you can work around it.

The charges of "elitism" are unfounded. It makes pretty good sense to say that those with less time invested in their characters should be those that reroll.. as I said above, there's a huge difference between "encouraging" someone who only has a few hours /played to reroll and "encouraging" someone who has a few months /played to reroll.

If someone has to go, it should be those at the lowest levels. It's true that it's largely Blizzard's fault and not theirs, but just because it isn't their fault doesn't mean that players should have to sit back and have a crappy experience.

If the word gets out that lowbies WILL be ganked on the server, then people will stop rolling on it without being inconvenienced much. And the price to pay to get out the word is.. you have to go out and gank some lowbies. *shrug*

One thing that could be done is only going after unguilded lowbies, or avoiding lowbies who are in certain "safe" guilds. Alts and players who are "sponsored" by a regular on the server would thus be protected. This would largely circumvent the complaints of others.

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[info]shotie
2005-11-13 07:06 am UTC (link)
Yeah, or lowbies will just band together just to piss the high-levels off.

The charges of "elitism" are unfounded. It makes pretty good sense to say that those with less time invested in their characters should be those that reroll.. as I said above, there's a huge difference between "encouraging" someone who only has a few hours /played to reroll and "encouraging" someone who has a few months /played to reroll.

If someone has to go, it should be those at the lowest levels. It's true that it's largely Blizzard's fault and not theirs, but just because it isn't their fault doesn't mean that players should have to sit back and have a crappy experience.


No wonder you can't see the elitism in this, if you think it's right for the high-levels to have a server and drive the low-levels off.

I hope some asshole comes and starts ganking you when you roll an alt to play with a close friend who started, or that your close friend gets ganked for coming to your server, and they get driven away from the game because all high-level assholes across all servers start PKing their low-levels because the fucking elitist prick high-levels think they have the god-given right to the servers.

That's fucked up. That's like saying I have the right to run teenage drivers off the road because I've had my lisence longer, and paid more taxes so I own the road more than they do, and I'm sick of their driving. It's bullshit, and pretty much everyone knows it. No one deserves a server more than anyone else, just like I don't own the road.

In the end, eventually WoW will cease to exsist, and all the time and effort anyone put into their characters is gone. We don't pay for the effort, we don't pay for items, we pay to play and fucking have fun, and level has shit to do with that. A low level can have just as much fun with their $15 as a high level. So bull-fucking-shit that high-levels are entitled to a server more than the low-levels.

You high levels need to get over yourselves. Take the complaint to Blizzard, stop harassing other fucking people thinking that will fix the problem, cause it simply will not.

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[info]kyidyl
2005-11-13 07:37 am UTC (link)
So...I'm not sure I understand exactally what it is you're hoping to accomplish. Just...how are you going to kill all these low level people you hate so much? Even on PvP servers you have to be PvP flagged in home areas to be hurt by the opposing faction. You could kill questgivers all day long if you want I guess, but, they can still grind their way to higher levels. I know on horde side specifically you can quest until about low 20-ish before needing to go elsewhere to level. You could squeeze it out till mid 20's even.

Besides. What you're doing won't work. All the different parts of a the continents are housed on different servers. I can be in Kalimdor and if the Eastern Kingdoms crash, I may never know about it. Point being: MC crashing is your own goddamned high-level fault and the newbies probably never even know it goes down. If the realm itself doesn't drop (and let's face it, it's rare that that happens. And don't tell me I don't know about high pop servers, I play on Archimonde. I don't want to hear shit after waiting in 700+ person queues to log in.), the newbies will never know. The newbies have nothing to do with your problem whatsoever. Your realm isn't on one server, it's on many servers, and if it's anyone's fault other then Blizzard's that the servers are intermittedly crashing, it's your's and people like you. The only thing the newbs can do to effect you is cause long queues.

So don't be a dick.

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[info]sssexygirl
2005-11-13 03:26 pm UTC (link)
mmmm server was down for an hour. you get thrown off and wait 50 minutes to get back on to finish your raid. oh wait you cant.. BECAUSE ITS BROKE.

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[info]serenitystar
2005-11-13 07:44 am UTC (link)
I have to play the devil's advocate to everyone that replied. I mean ok maybe sssexygirl's idea and attitude might be kinda bitchy, but you're all complaining about lowbies being killed on a PVP server. It's a PVP server, right? Which means horde kills alliance and vice versa. Right? So ok, so how is she so wrong? Isn't that what happens on a PVP server? Maybe I'm wrong because I play on a PVE, but I thought PVP meant killing players from the other faction and raiding enemy territory. :)

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[info]calamariachi
2005-11-13 08:10 am UTC (link)
Nothing wrong with killing an opponent in PvP...even a much weaker one. That's just how it goes. There is something wrong with the mentality of "I'm frustrated, so I'll oppress these weaklings" and, further, the "big guys" on their side (that is to say, the high level "allies" on the opressed's side who could do something about it) not stepping in to help their comrades because they, too, want to punish these newcomers.

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(no subject) - [info]kuangning, 2005-11-13 08:16 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]kuangning, 2005-11-13 08:41 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]kuangning, 2005-11-13 08:56 pm UTC
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[info]oxygen__
2005-11-13 08:28 am UTC (link)
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I give this post an A+

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[info]themachinegod
2005-11-14 06:17 am UTC (link)
lol, who the

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[info]redarius
2005-11-13 09:03 am UTC (link)
Not to be too subtle or unclear here, but your approach is bullshit and you are in no way entitled to grief people.

There was lag on many servers tonight. Blaming it on waves of new users? That's ridiculous and ignorant.

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[info]sssexygirl
2005-11-13 03:15 pm UTC (link)
call it want you want, in fact it doesnt matter what you call it.. its a pvp server. all of this was removed when BG came out. the griefing/camping went on every day all day until that. so. as the old saying goes.. dont roll pvp if you dont want to get rolled.

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[info]particle_man
2005-11-13 09:20 am UTC (link)
Come on over to Sargeras and try it. I guarantee you that if you're ganking my low lvl alt then my 60 and the rest of my guilds 60's will bring it back at ya.

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[info]sssexygirl
2005-11-13 03:13 pm UTC (link)
thts the server im on friend. and you know damn well its going on. so bring it :)

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(no subject) - [info]particle_man, 2005-11-19 05:00 am UTC
Thoughts from someone who is probably the only person here yet to PLAY the game.
[info]i_am_stillwater
2005-11-13 10:06 am UTC (link)
For me, I liked the idea of being inside this World simply because I could go out and have fun, and explore and maybe role-play or compete with others in friendly matches of skill. And also the fishing... I like the idea of fishing.

Now, being a complete and utter novice, having no idea which servers have the most-established communities and some such and what the effects of such establishment could be, I'd probably go to a high-traffic server. I would hope that there would be enlightened folk there to help me and teach me how to excel in my craft upon my birth on that server.

While I can understand the idea of attacking new, low-leveled players to "entice" them to move to low population servers, it only shows to me that some players have invested so much into a game that they've forgotten what it means to be a person.

Should I enter such a place, innocent, without the sins of griefing and ninja looting and lowbie exterminating, only to find myself stopped at every advance and slain in every manner, that would take away the very wonder of the game that so many people who played it from its beginnings got to experience.

You will not simply make angry players.

You will exchange purpose and adventure with revenge and bitterness.

You will perpetuate the idea that the only people entitled to exist in a World are those who have been firmly entrenched in that world.

You will force newcomers to ask themselves why strangers are being mean to people who haven't done anything.

You will take away the sense of wonder and awe that is reserved for people like me who have only seen screenshots and thought about the camaraderie that can exist in the World.

And I only hope your continued persistence in playing a game in this manner makes you reflect on what really matters.

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Re: Thoughts from someone who is probably the only person here yet to PLAY the game.
[info]equiraptor
2005-11-13 02:23 pm UTC (link)
What if the US servers had a system like the EU servers - "Full" servers, those experiencing queues regularly, had warning symbols next to them (in the realm forum list, at least. Should have them in the realm selection list), and some servers were marked with a "please make your characters here" mark. Would you have honored the "please roll here" mark, or would you have rolled on one of the full/warning servers?

Do you think that system might help, overall?

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Re: Thoughts from someone who is probably the only person here yet to PLAY the game. - [info]sssexygirl, 2005-11-13 03:03 pm UTC
Re: Thoughts from someone who is probably the only person here yet to PLAY the game. - [info]scottishtyrant, 2005-11-13 03:58 pm UTC
Re: Thoughts from someone who is probably the only person here yet to PLAY the game. - [info]sssexygirl, 2005-11-13 04:04 pm UTC
Re: Thoughts from someone who is probably the only person here yet to PLAY the game. - [info]scottishtyrant, 2005-11-13 04:26 pm UTC
Re: Thoughts from someone who is probably the only person here yet to PLAY the game. - [info]sssexygirl, 2005-11-13 04:32 pm UTC
Re: Thoughts from someone who is probably the only person here yet to PLAY the game. - [info]scottishtyrant, 2005-11-13 04:42 pm UTC
Re: Thoughts from someone who is probably the only person here yet to PLAY the game. - [info]i_am_stillwater, 2005-11-13 05:16 pm UTC
Re: Thoughts from someone who is probably the only person here yet to PLAY the game. - [info]equiraptor, 2005-11-13 07:02 pm UTC
Re: Thoughts from someone who is probably the only person here yet to PLAY the game. - [info]i_am_stillwater, 2005-11-13 07:06 pm UTC
Does anyone ever RTFM?
[info]angeli_pidcock
2005-11-13 10:58 am UTC (link)
Sometimes it actually helps if you read-up on a particular product you buy, if you're not going to RTFM then at least have the common sense to go to the website and read the policies. Or...actually READ the ToS when it's presented to you every Patch Day.

For the "It's a PvP Server, we can kill all we want" Defense:

Referenced from:
http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowgm/?id=agm01654p

Read the little section that states:
The Ongoing Harassment policy does not apply on a PvP server when there is a PvP resolution available, as physical confrontations are considered a facet of PvP combat and players in opposing factions are unable to communicate verbally. Characters have the ability to address their conflicts through combat and GMs will only involve themselves in extreme or excessive circumstances.


I'm pretty sure gank-camping a bunch of newbies to drive them off the server would be considered an "extreme or excessive circumstance". I would certainly report you, and have every other lowbie report you until you got banned, then where would you be?

For the "We'll just kill all the NPC's" defense:

Referenced from:
http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowgm/?id=agm01315p#harassingdefamatory

Impeding or blocking access to an NPC, doodad, doorway, or any other area of the world that a player would normally be able to access

I think ganking off the NPC's qualifies as harassment in that instance, cuz you sure are impeding my access to them. So, yeah, I'd have to report you for that too, and have all my newbie friends report you, and you'd get banned again. What then?


In all honesty, those of you that support this policy really are snob-nosed High Level Elitists, as [info]shotie has repeatedly pointed out. Your convenient excuses are just your own justification for actions you know aren't morally sound.

I'd hate to see how some of you act in Real Life, if this is the way you act over a game. I mean, geez, what're you going to do the next time the film breaks at the movie theater? Go upstairs and beat up the attendant because it's obviously all his fault? Or maybe the next time you're at the drive-thru at the fast food place, you're going to sock the window attendant in the eye because the driver before you took too long.

Grow up a little, people. It's just a game. This is not the Be All, End All of Life Itself. In the end, your Level 60 Whatever is no better than a Level 1 Something. Ultimately, it's all deletable digital information anyway. Why get all worked up over a few kilobytes of information?

And for those newbies who are feeling put out by the general negativity of some high levels, you come right on over to Suramar and look for Tahira, a Level 54 Tauren Druid. My guild and I love newbies and we'd love to have you! :)

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Re: Does anyone ever RTFM?
[info]i_am_stillwater
2005-11-13 11:56 am UTC (link)
*loves how you wrote that. Wishes he could start playing NOW*

Methinks I will make a Troll alt where you are and look for you when the time comes. :) Or do you suggest a particular race for playing offensively?

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Come on Over! - [info]angeli_pidcock, 2005-11-14 12:54 am UTC
Re: Come on Over! - [info]i_am_stillwater, 2005-11-15 03:15 pm UTC
We'll Wait for Ya! - [info]angeli_pidcock, 2005-11-15 08:07 pm UTC
Re: We'll Wait for Ya! - [info]i_am_stillwater, 2005-11-16 08:45 am UTC
Re: Does anyone ever RTFM? - [info]sssexygirl, 2005-11-13 05:01 pm UTC
Re: Does anyone ever RTFM? - [info]redarius, 2005-11-13 06:22 pm UTC
Re: Does anyone ever RTFM? - [info]grimmus, 2005-11-13 06:41 pm UTC
Re: Does anyone ever RTFM? - [info]sssexygirl, 2005-11-13 07:24 pm UTC
Re: Does anyone ever RTFM? - [info]grimmus, 2005-11-13 07:29 pm UTC
Re: Does anyone ever RTFM? - [info]sssexygirl, 2005-11-13 07:30 pm UTC
Re: Does anyone ever RTFM? - [info]sssexygirl, 2005-11-13 07:33 pm UTC
Re: Does anyone ever RTFM? - [info]kyidyl, 2005-11-13 06:55 pm UTC
Re: Does anyone ever RTFM? - [info]sssexygirl, 2005-11-13 07:22 pm UTC
Re: Does anyone ever RTFM? - [info]kyidyl, 2005-11-13 11:43 pm UTC
Re: Does anyone ever RTFM? - [info]sssexygirl, 2005-11-13 11:53 pm UTC
Re: Does anyone ever RTFM? - [info]dancingdrew, 2005-11-13 08:36 pm UTC
Re: Does anyone ever RTFM? - [info]sssexygirl, 2005-11-13 08:40 pm UTC
Re: Does anyone ever RTFM? - [info]dancingdrew, 2005-11-13 08:42 pm UTC
Re: Does anyone ever RTFM? - [info]sssexygirl, 2005-11-13 08:44 pm UTC
Re: Does anyone ever RTFM? - [info]aki_dreaming, 2005-11-13 07:15 pm UTC
/lol - [info]angeli_pidcock, 2005-11-14 12:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]aki_dreaming, 2005-11-16 01:03 am UTC

[info]frenzied
2005-11-13 03:46 pm UTC (link)
last week the opened brand new squeaky clean and freshly empty servers, and i rolled on it. my main server's got high latency and battleground ques of HOURS, and i was all over it.

right, and last night on new server---people couldn't rez, and there was ten minute loot lag, orgrimmar for me was empty besides myself, and you couldn't even log out- you had to wait to be kicked. server crash. you aren't the only ones. Blizzard's got issues.

its not overcrowding that's causing the problem. its something else. across the board problems that affect your server wont' be solved by culling your herd as it were.

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[info]sssexygirl
2005-11-13 04:30 pm UTC (link)
i respect this comment. i really do.

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(no subject) - [info]i_am_stillwater, 2005-11-13 05:22 pm UTC
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[info]grimmus
2005-11-13 06:37 pm UTC (link)
I tried rolling about ten different alts, but in the end I get bored of soloing myself through the game again and again. I usually end up finding something to do on Grimmus or Skellum nowadays, but even if I could stick with an alt for a while, it wouldn't be on Sargeras; I know what guilds are there waiting at the end, I know what people to expect, what kind of economy we have, etcetera. So no worries on ganking me there. ;-)

I have to say, it's absolutely hilarious the commotion you've caused in the community mentioning our server cleansing. Although in most cases I'd rather go play Arathi Basin and earn some honor than camp some pretty much worthless lowbies for a while, I do think the cleansing is pretty interesting and I'm curious to see how it turns out.

A few points I'd like to make in general:

Each account played by each person is payed for. Case closed. You can't say "You stupid high levels are ruining their experience that they pay for," because it works both ways. It's a stupid point.

You can't compare playing WoW to driving a car, there's a very big difference. Comparing playing WoW to smearing shit on your curtains is even more random. Next you'll all be comparing massaging a woman's feet to... /offtopic.

What we do in game is not the same as what we do in real life. We have patience in game just as we do in real life, but a lot of people lose their patience; Everybody has their limit.

People are level 60. Level 60's in MC and a good number in BWL gear. People get bored, and I guess not everyone is content with running Arathi Basin trying to get Stone Guard because I get distracted and end up not PvPing for a week and drop a rank again. Oops.

You don't care. 99% of you don't play on the server, so the issue has no affect on you in any way, shape, or form. People just have a natural tendency to band together when it comes to kicking someone while they're down, especially when it's the cool thing to do.

I honestly wonder what happened to "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all". Aside from "omg reroll urself n00b", or attempting to contact the company that ignores us anyway, is there any other alternative to our problem? I'm pretty sure you don't want hundreds of angry Sargeras players waiting in queue to decide to find another server and make an army of level 1 pink-haired gnomes to raid Ironforge with. There's not a whole lot we can do, but the lot of you aren't really being very constructive with your criticism.

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[info]sssexygirl
2005-11-13 07:46 pm UTC (link)
oh please you know im stuck in arathi mining freaking iron bars /cry. between shards/bars/repair bots/raids/warlock taxi/twink lowbies in gnomer when do i have time to grief!? :( you so know im a carebear.. this whole entire post was to vent frustration at our server! and considering this is livejournal, a community of which we all share the same common interest i figured id vent it here.


and dont worry , my posts always cause a hooplah :)

oh yeah btw, tell okra thx. he was mind controlling me and buffing me in felwood for no apparent reason..

<3

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[info]aki_dreaming
2005-11-13 07:35 pm UTC (link)
I've forwarded all this information on to Blizzard, and hopefully they'll have some useful insight for us all when this is done.

And people, why rant and rave here?
Go here if you have something you need to say.

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[info]sssexygirl
2005-11-13 07:44 pm UTC (link)
can see the documentation please? i would like to add it with the emails ive sent about this issue. any conversations about it at all is helpful, and might get the ball rolling.

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[info]tetsuko_
2005-11-13 08:04 pm UTC (link)
If Blizzard have any sense they'll take the people with this retarded "hunt down the noob" attitude and delete their accounts. Or even better pocket their money and create a bit of Karma with some level 90 evilness to hunt the "holier than thou" down and wipe them off the face of their realm and leave the civilised players to enjoy their game.

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[info]sssexygirl
2005-11-13 08:09 pm UTC (link)
maybe they should.. more space on the server= less lag. but since blizzard completly ignores us.. after all the 500 farmers spamming our realm daily.. i dont think they actually care enough to do stuff to fix it.

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(no subject) - [info]kuangning, 2005-11-13 08:48 pm UTC

[info]speciestart
2005-11-13 08:30 pm UTC (link)
One word. Lame.

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It's the Waahmbulance!
[info]loqia
2005-11-13 09:36 pm UTC (link)
I think this post can be summed up as: "Wah wah I got no epix wah wah."

Congratulations on being the in-game equivalent of the spoilt little pre-teen who screams and throws a tantrum in the middle of the mall 'cause mommy won't buy her the newest Bratz doll.

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Re: It's the Waahmbulance!
[info]sssexygirl
2005-11-13 10:41 pm UTC (link)
wow.. i havent played with dollies in uhm.. 25yrs. gg

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