Friday, September 30th, 2005

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1:14a	I think that if your organisation is affiliated with the RCP and that it's aims are in step with theirs it should be posted in your profile. Don't get me wrong, but while I am strongly opposed to criminal groups like the Bush gvt. My aims as an activist and my means of achieving them are quite different than those of any insurectionary organisation. If this is not the case though I would really like to know what this comunity has by way of a manifesto or statement of action so that I can make a more informed decision about how or if I am in the wrong comunity. (5 Comments | Comment on this)
2:35a	your personal goal I've been talking to the local RCP. they are a pretty intense bunch. THey are very clear about what the WCW is; another step on the road to thier revolution. so since we agree, we dont like bush, and we want something different: and we know the RCP want this to move towards large scale violent insurrection and eventual communist revolution in the U.S. Do you agree with the RCP? are you a member of the RCP? are you a communist? what are some possible results that you would like to see come from your actions on Nov 2nd? (2 Comments | Comment on this)
12:41p	the world cant wait website is a non-statment. you can bet the RCP has a plan. heres what I think they imply, but will not state overtly: THe RCP wants a fight, with us, thier fellow-travellers, on the front line. by attacking bush they are in fact attacking our entire government, our whole model of society. their desire to see bush out of office is in fact second to thier desire to see our electoral and government proccess broken. They would rather see our government broken than see bush legitimately impeached. they want the WCW event to be the first in a campaign of events, the spark that ignites a larger breakdown. by thoughtlessly supporting a broad range of unspecified insurectionary action they garuntee someone, somewhere, will be mistreated harshly by police as a part of this demostration. they will sensationalize the fascist brutality, agitate further conflict and try to turn the anti-bush demostrations into anti-government actions of escalating intensity. Communists love martyrs and they love discontent, they will keep making people angry on whatever pretext they can find, and with lots of uninformed people "taking to the streets" there will be no shortage of dramatic justifications to mobilize. THe WCW event will create an infrastructure, a lose network with a hard core, the RCP, that can function as a command structure for further action. THey dont need to actually succeed in their revolutionary aspirations, Its probably not a real goal in this generation. ALl they need to do is waste our time, keep us from finding real answers, and keep us from actually participating in functional solutions. The RCP just wants thinks to get worse, they want more preassure on us from a tyranical police state, if thing get worse, it makes their revolution all the more likely in the future. I get these ideas from actual conversations I've had in the last few weeks with actual RCP members here in detroit. they are angry people. anyone who already hasnt should check out the RCP website and read about Marxist-Lenninist-Maoist communism, because unless you figure out some other plan, thats exactly what you are participating in. All that being said i now want to talk pro-active solutions, I've heard very little in the way of workable ideas lately. (2 Comments | Comment on this)
6:54p	It seems that the person who posted before me is not the only one misinformed about the involvement of the RCP with the World Can't Wait mobilization. I think I need to quote the comment I left on his post in an attempt to clear the problem with the RCP or at least to inform people a little more. My response to his post was: "mmmm... I guess you could view it that way if you want to, but just in case you were not informed, the RCP is not in charge of the World Can't Wait movement. Sure they have the common interest of wanting to stop the Bush regime, but that does not mean that their purpose is what you say it is. Everyone who shares this interest is involved, including republicans. Organizations that are not affiliated with any political party are also involved. It seems the RCP has been the fundamental source of advertising for the Nov. 02 mobilization, and that's why people are directly involving each [with the] other, and even "blaming" the RCP for the goals of the protest. It is clear that you dislike the RCP, and therefore accordingly, since it is involved in the cause, you are logically inducting that the purpose of everyone involved in the movement, organizations far many than only the RCP, have the same purpose that somehow you have implied." I hope this educates those who like to jump to deductions without having the complete picture, and those who like to go out of context with their implications. (Comment on this)
9:56p	Fellow travelers but just in case you were not informed, the RCP is not in charge of the World Can't Wait movement. I keep hearing this. they conceived it, they motivate it, they plan it, they advertise it, they set the terms, and it serves their ends. When you say they are not "in charge" what do you mean? Is someone else in charge? do you know of some other organization that is using the WCW to build constructive alternatives or functional political stragies? do you know of some non-communist , non-revolutionary end of the WCW? if so, I want to know what they think they are getting out of it, seriously, i'm interested, I cant find anyone who's willing to actually talk about what this action is supposed to be gettign us. people dont seem to want to take responsibility for what happens after Bush. It would seem they are content to leave that strategy to someone else, and that someone else seems to be the RCP. please, inform me, tell me this is not the case. It is clear that you dislike the RCP, It's true. and I also hate bush, that puts me in a strange position these days. A position I'm trying to find a way to work with, and I'm not willing to break our system so that one totalitarianism can replace the other. I know I'm not alone. and therefore accordingly, since it is involved in the cause, you are logically inducting that the purpose of everyone involved in the movement, organizations far many than only the RCP, have the same purpose that somehow you have implied." no, I do not think everyone shares the goals of the RCP, in fact, i suspect most people involved in the WCW do not share the goals of the RCP. However they are cooperating with the RCP agenda, whether they share the goal of communist revolution or not. People are so angry with Bush that they are just going along with whatever the RCP leads them into, without even questioning what the result of the action is supposed to be. doesnt this seem weird to anyone else? guys, i can get a lot worse than bush, a lot worse. read about the past couple of marxist-lenninist-maoist revolutions. read the RCP website, thats what they want to happen again. Take a look at china's human rights record, take a look at thier environmental policies, you want to see that here? and I didnt just come up with this idea, this is what the local communists in detroit tell me, this is what they describe on their website. I talk to these people, do you? answer this: if the WCW movement is really anti-bush, and not in fact anti-constitutional US government, then why dont they advocate political alternatives that do not require revolution? I like the constitution, I like the bill of rights. I'd like things in this country a lot more if our government actually respected it, but I see this as work to be done. I'm suggesting that they (the RCP) are more interested in working toward revolution than finding a real answer. They impress everyone by talking about getting rid of bush, but that talk is a smokescreen for their revoltionary objectives. They would be well satisfied to see fellow travelers "take to the streets" and get thier asses busted, just to increase the discontent with the current regime. they want to increase the anger, to "wake people up". there are ways to do this without plunging us into a new dark age, but thats not something communism has ever understood. Their Revolution wont happen, they are to few and Bush has the red states, but a sea-change in the goals and methods of our government might happen if peoples energies are channeled in constructive, instead of destructive, directions. I see this as a time in history when we have the chance to build, the break through. It would be a shame if we chose this moment to break down instead. (3 Comments | Comment on this)

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