
I first met Tracie Vaughn Zimmer several years ago when she spoke about creating teachers' guides at a local conference. That night at dinner, we were seated at the same table, and the conversation was full of laughter and poetry. I learned that her first novel in verse, Sketches from a Spy Tree, was coming out the next year. I also learned, if I remember correctly, that she likes to listen to Billy Collins poetry on a tape or CD while she does dishes and things and recites it loudly along with him. Is that right, Tracie? Was that you?
Anyway, I just love Tracie's new novel in verse, Reaching for Sun, the story of Josie, a girl with cerebral palsy who needs to learn to stand up for herself. Tracie graciously answered my nosy questions for me to share with all of you. Thanks, Tracie!
How much outlining/planning (if any) did you do before you began writing these poems?
None. I just dived in and followed where it led. Of course this is probably directly related to how long it took me to find the story, uncover the
narrative backbone- years in other words.
I love that you start the book in Winter. Not January, even though the calendar year starts there. But Winter, because the seasons and natural world have great importance for Josie. And you didn't follow a school-year calendar, either, which so many kids' books do. How did you decide to start with Winter?
Actually it was something that my editor, Melanie Cecka, made me realize I was cheating on. In an earlier drafts Jordan showed up too early (and it started in spring). I was protecting Josie by not showing her isolation. So, we needed winter but I didn't want it to be all gloom- Christmas in this family is a bright spot in winter so I started there. It also shows how much they love each other even though they drive each other a bit mad too!
Did a lot of the wonderful, skillfully done plant metaphors and figurative language come out in the very first draft of these poems? Or was much of that added later?
Added over so many drafts, layer on layer. Poetry, for me, is all about revision and I love to revise.
I see it's described as interlinked free-verse poems. Do you consider this a novel in verse?
It's definitely a narrative in verse- whether it is a novel or not I'm not sure matters. It tells a story. I'll leave the discussion on what's a novel
and what's not to other people.
How would you identify the main conflict in this book? You cover so many of Josie's problems in so few words? I'm just wondering which problem you consider to be the defining one of the book.
I think Josie's real problem isn't her cerebral palsy at all but her inability to stand up for what she wants and believes. A problem like that
weaves its way through many aspects of a girl's life, too.
I love how little we see of Josie's school experience. Clearly, she would love to just pretend it didn't exist.
Josie's cerebral palsy seems like it must be fairly mild (at least to my non-expert perception, as she does a lot of motor activities that I was surprised by). Was there any pressure from editors to make her CP mild, or was that how you envisioned it all along? What kind of feedback have you gotten from people who live with cerebral palsy? I would think a book like this that focuses on her inner
world, her relationships, would be such a joyous thing for all people who don't want to be defined by a specific medical condition they have.
Oh, no, my editor never pushed me in a particular direction about Josie's condition or anything. I pictured her just this way- kind of caught between two worlds. I've had great response so far from families whose children have CP. It has been amazing to hear from them and I'm honored. I agree- we all want people to see our true selves, not what the world sees necessarily. We don't want to be judged by appearances- for beauty, or disabilities, weight or any number of other things.
Could you share some of your writing process for this book? I'd be fascinated to know how it all come together, start to finish.
I started out with an image of a girl spinning a hens and chicks in her hand (they look like miniature palm trees). I knew she wished she was in this other kingdom but I didn't know why. Slowly over time she revealed her story to me.
In a first-person novel in verse, how much does the form limit the type of main character? Did the fact that these poems are Josie's thoughts influence or limit the kind of character Josie could be? In other words, she had to be the kind of kid who might realistically express herself so poetically. Or do you think a class clown or an uneducated kid or anyone else could also be represented this way, in the same way that a first-person humorous novel might be smart and witty in a way that's not really realistic for its main character? I just see that most novels in verse feature female main characters who have rich inner lives and are outcast in some way. I'm interested in how the form shapes the work.
I think even a class clown could write free verse poetry (is that a challenge?!!)- it would sound wholly different than Josie's- to be sure, but
I think it could be done. It wasn't the form as much as the topics within them that were shaped. Writing about flowers and a farm made for an almost pastoral type of poetry. And because Josie was so isolated they became her companions, almost characters in the book. I've come to believe that mosteveryone feels like they're on the outside looking in.
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Read my original Poetry Friday post about Reaching for Sun.
|TUNNELING|
|FUNNELING|
down below
Where doe
s this mov
ing stairc
ase go ?
steeper
deeper
towar
ds th
e gl
ow
.
---Mary McKenna Siddals
Down, Down,
Destination Unknown,
Heart pitter-pattering,
A dream? A nightmare?
What waits?
---mamajp
Launch Pad
Let me off
Let me leap
Listen!
Let me be
Let's go
---Pamela Ross
Down
welcoming light: up
flames of hell: down
am I just mixed up?
or forever condemned?
---Laura Purdie Salas
My stomach falls
as I look down
like I will
if I don't hold
tight.
---Diane M. Davis
narrow-minded attitudes
must undergo adjustment,
as eyes to the light
and ears to the pressure
---lindabudz