ASoIaF Discussion

Carrying a Dragon

2007-08-25T06:31:10Z

SPOILERS BELOW!!!!

It is my humble theory that both Tyrion and Jon Snow are of the dragon bloodline.

Tyrion's mother died bearing him, and Tywin is always saying he's not his son.

And Jon Snow...well...where do I start? I think he's really Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen's son. That could account for her death, since dragons are hard to carry.

That could possibly make them the other two heads of the dragon.

Another thing about Jon Snow: if he IS Lyanna and Rhaegar's child, that makes him a Targaryen prince. Perhaps the real prince that's been promised?

Hmm?

Our time has come!

2007-01-17T19:57:29Z

If you haven't heard, A Song of Ice and Fire is being turned in to an HBO series!

Unshelved's "Book Club"

2006-07-23T13:53:52Z

"Unshelved", my favorite webcomic about libraries, has a "book club" feature on Sundays in which they summarise and illustrate a book or series they recommend. Today's is "A Game of Thrones" / "A Song of Ice and Fire":

( Crossposted to other GRRM communities )

wakingthedragon @ 2006-05-05T12:51:00

2006-05-05T19:58:05Z

Hi, everyone. I'm trying to get a group together in the LA area (specifically, Westwood) to discuss this series at some point. Depending on how many people respond, hopefully we can set that up. So, anyone interested? I'm aiming for a Wednesday night, but that can change.

If this isn't appropriate, let me know and I'll delete it. There didn't seem to be anything against this in the community rules, but just in case. Thanks!

Memorable quotes

2006-01-15T22:10:14Z

Since one of my quote-posts ended up here, I thought I'd add another.

Sam: "Did I kill him?"
Tollett: "Might have punctured a lung, if he had a lung. Most trees don't, as a rule."

Bran: Can a man still be brave if he's afraid?
Eddard: That is the only time a man can be brave.

"Mercy, sire. I killed no one, I only stood at the door to watch for guards."
"Did you know what Lord Rickard intended? Did you see the knives drawn? Did you hear the shouts, the screams, the cries for mercy?"
"Aye, I did, but I took no part. I was only the watcher, I swear it ..."
"Lord Umber, this one was only the watcher. Hang him last, so he may watch the others die."

Tyrion Lannister could not have been more astonished if Aegon the Conqueror himself had burst into the room, riding on a dragon and juggling lemon pies.

Jaime Lannister: "I just wanted to hear him say 'sapphires.'"

Cersei: "I shall wear this as a badge of honor."
Robert: "Wear it in silence or I’ll honor you again."

Sandor Clegane: "Only a man who’s been burned knows what hell is truly like."

Meryn Trant: "You are quick for a dancing master."
Syrio Florel: "You are slow for a knight."

Tyrion: "Take heart, father. At least Rhaegar Targaryen is still dead."

Joffrey: "She fears me."
Tyrion: "Yes, I see. A pity Stannis and Renly aren’t twelve year old girls as well."

The rite seemed to require that everyone stand, so Tyrion saw nothing but a row of courtly asses.

Jaime: "Death by poison can seem natural. Harder to claim that my head simply fell off."

Queen of Thorns: "All these kings would do a deal better if they would put down their swords & listen to their mothers."

Oberyn Martell: "An old septon once claimed I was living proof of the goodness of the gods. Do you know why that is, Imp?"
Tyrion: "No."
Oberyn: "Why, if the gods were cruel, they would have made me my mother’s firstborn, and Doran her third."

Jaime: "Ser, you’ve been remiss in teaching our new brothers their duties."
Meryn Trant: "What duties?"
Jaime: "Keeping the king alive. How many have you lost since I left the city? Two, is it?"

Oberyn: "If I should ever find a sash beside my own bed, and pull on it, I would sooner have the scorpions fall on me than the queen in all her naked beauty."

Barristan Selmy: "King Jaehaerys once told me that madness and greatness are two sides of the same coin. Every time a new Targaryen is born, he said, the gods toss the coin in the air & the world holds its breath to see how it will land."

Cersei Lannister and Maggi’s Prophecy

2005-11-01T09:33:03Z

A thought after finishing A Feast for Crows...

Cersei Lannister was convinced that the “younger, more beautiful” woman that Maggi prophesied as her undoing might be Margaery. This is obviously a sample of Cersei’s obsessive paranoia and her unhealthy fixation on her children...

Whilst reading, I assumed that the prophecy might refer to Daenarys, although I’m not sure that she’s more beautiful than Cersei (who is obviously quite the looker). However, a friend guessed that it might be Sansa Stark – who I’ve kinda dismissed up until now, because although Littlefinger is a very clever chap and underestimated, Sansa is still rather wet. Still, you never know.

But Cersei’s sudden imprisonment at the end of A Feast for Crows puts things in a new light! It doesn’t seem like Daenarys will have time to be Cersei’s undoing (and I will cheer if the bitch’s head comes off). Could Cersei’s ill-advised attempt to frame Margaery fulfill the Maegi’s prophecy, or do you think that Cersei’s going to get out of this somehow, so that Dany or Sansa can have a go?

The E-book is now available

2005-10-23T12:57:19Z

Just passing along the word to all "Song of Ice and Fire" fans that A Feast for Crows can now be downloaded from Powells, in Adobe, Microsoft, or Palm formats.

Two weeks before the hardback comes out, and only $14.36 US.

What are your predictions for the series?

2005-07-03T21:22:27Z

* Arya Stark will undertake the training of the Faceless Men, and her first assignment will be killing Tyrion Lannister on behalf of Cersei.

* Lady Brienne of Tarth will find Rickon, by sheer chance.

* Oathkeeper will kill Petyr Littlefinger, and Sansa Stark will give the command.

* The Hound will die, saving the life of a Stark.

* The Others will break through the Night's Watch and the wildlings, and the red witch will desert Stannis Baratheon at a key moment. Stannis will die and Melisandre will try to align Jon Snow to her desires.

* Cersei will kill Jaime, and watch Tommen die helplessly. She will kill herself.

* Daenerys will make war on Westeros, only to make common cause with the Westerosi as the Others sweep south.

* Bolton will be made an Other. All the Freys will die at the hands of Catelyn Stark's outlaws.

* Jorah Mormont will die, saving Jon Snow's life.

wakingthedragon @ 2005-03-21T21:01:00

2005-03-22T03:01:47Z

By the gods old and new, why do ASOIAF fans so much like atrocious color schemes? ezboard is white on black, and now this...

some quotes

2005-03-07T04:10:35Z

Here are some quotes I found...the original post was made by _onlysleeping_

"Before I am done with them, Mago and Ko Jhaqo will plead for the mercy they showed Eroeh."
"Khaleesi, Jhaqo is khal now, with twenty thousand riders at his back."
"And I am Daenerys Stormborn, Daenerys of House Targaryen, of the blood of Aegon the Conqueror and Maegor the Cruel and old Valyria before them. I am the dragon's daughter, and I swear to you, these men will die screaming."

"In the dawn light, the army of Lord Tywin Lannister unfolded like an iron rose, thorns gleaming."

Eddard Stark: "Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning, was the greatest knight in the land and he would have killed me but for Howland Reed."

Jorah Mormont: "Rhaegar fought valiantly, Rhaegar fought nobly, Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaegar died."

Tyrion Lanniser: "The smell that filled the privy was ample evidence that the oft-repeated jape about his father was just another lie. In the end, Lord Tywin Lannister did not, shit gold."

Sandor Clegane: "Pretty thing, and such a bad liar. A dog can smell a lie, you know. Look around you, and take a good whiff. They're all liars here...and every one better than you."

Rhaegar Targaryen: "There must be one more"

Syrio Florel: "You will be stopping there. Are you men or dogs that would threaten a child?"

Walder Frey: "Benfrey, see your sister back to her chambers, she has a wedding to prepare for. And a bedding, heh, the sweetest part. For all, for all. We'll have music, such sweet music, and wine, heh, the red will run, and we'll put some wrongs aright."

Catelyn Stark: "Because it will not last. Because they are the knights of summer, and winter is coming."

Sers Hightower, Dayne, and Whent: "The Kingsguard do not run. Then or now. We swore a vow."

Dany and Khal Drago: "What is meaning, name Rhaego?" "My brother Rhaegar was a fierce warrior, my sun and stars." "Is good name, Dan Ares wife, moon of my life."

Dolorous Edd: "Bad enough when the dead come walking, now the Old Bear wants them talking as well? No good will come of that, I'll warrant. And who's to say the bones wouldn't lie? Why should death make a man truthful, or even clever? The dead are likely dull fellows, full of tedious complaints - the ground's too cold, my gravestone should be larger, why does he get more worms than I do ..."

Tyrion Lannister: "I'd be a much more religious man if i could pray with my cock."

"Ned remembered when all the smiles died, when Prince Rhaegar Targaryen urged his horse past his own wife, the Dornish princess Elia Martell, to lay the queen of beauty's laurel in Lyanna's lap. He could see it still; a crown of winter roses, blue as frost."

Eddard and Catelyn: "Is he afraid?" "A little. He is only three." "He must learn to face his fears. He will not be three forever. And winter is coming."

Tyrion Lannister: "Never forget who you are, for surely the world will not. Make it your strength. Then it can never be your weakness. Armor yourself in it, and it will never be used to hurt you."

Aemon: "Yes Jon. It need not be for long. Only such time as the garrison returns. Donal chose you, and Qhorin Halfhand before him. Lord Commander Mormont made you his steward. You are a son of Winterfell, a nephew of Benjen Stark. It must be you or no one. The Wall is yours, Jon Snow."

Oath of the Night's Watch: Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realm of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come

Infamous quote of the North: "Winter is coming."

And my all time favorite quote, in the entire series so far...

Jaqen H'ghar: "A man would have three names."

1st post

2005-03-01T13:34:47Z

just got the comm. up. still in it's rough stage tho.

i need some asoiaf quotes (i'm making a list of favorites) so i need everyone's help. if you have a favorite passage from the book please comment!