petrusplancius ([info]petrusplancius) wrote in [info]vintagephoto,
@ 2007-02-11 12:46:00
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A Goat who won a medal in the Great War

This is Taffy the Fourth, the regimental goat of the 2nd battalion of the Welch Regiment, who I think must the only goat who was ever awarded a military medal.




This is his entry on the card in the medal index. He accompanied his regiment over to France at the beginning of the First World War as part of the Brtish Expeditionary Force, and took part in the retreat from Mons and was present at the battle of Ypres and other engagements (though he would have been kept well behind the lines I imagine). It was therefore thought fitting that he should be awarded the campaign medal along with other members of the regiment. For the goat actually was a member of the regiment, ranking as a lance-corporal; the goats were included in the ration lists under the name of Gwilyn Jenkins (a typical Welsh name). Thet were tended by an NCO known as the goat-major, one of whom can be seen holding Taffy in the first photograph.


Here is a photograph of a goat on service with the Welch Regiment during the war. I am not sure if this is Taffy IV or a successor (Taffy died in 1915 according to the card).


Another regimental goat in the field, but not such a fine one one as Taffy; it evidently belonged to some other regiment. The mascots of the Welch were not just any sort of goat, but highly aristocratic long-haired white goats which were descended from some beasts that had been presented to Queen Victoria by the Shah of Persia.


A relatively modern picture of the goat of the Royal Regiment of Wales (to which the Welch Regiment now belongs by amalgamation), in which one can see how handsome these animals are. They are taught to kneel to the national anthem, and come from a herd owned by the Queen.


The Queen with a goat in 1989; this one actually belonged to the Royal Welch Fusiliers.


Back to our proper period with a picture from 1916. On the right is Lt Col Wilkie, the Commanding Officer of the Welch, who would die in that same year (I am not sure if he was killed in action). This goat was the mascot of the First Glamorgan Bantams, a part of the regiment that was made up of 'bantams', i.e. men who were below normal military height. (Hope all this goat lore is not too tiresome; I have a personal interest in it because my father served in the regiment.)



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[info]sita_137
2007-02-11 01:37 pm UTC (link)
I am totally loving the goats.

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[info]early_vincent
2007-02-11 01:46 pm UTC (link)
Those are some pretty nice looking goats. I wouldn't mind being in the same regimen as one of them.

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[info]benicek
2007-02-11 01:59 pm UTC (link)
Ridiculous!

The Polish had a bear which they took with them on the Italy campaign in WW2. I wonder if we can find any pictures of it on the wonderful wide web.......

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[info]benicek
2007-02-11 02:01 pm UTC (link)
Oh yes....here it is: http://www.iranchamber.com/podium/history/050807_iranian_soldier_bear.php

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[info]petrusplancius
2007-02-11 02:15 pm UTC (link)
Thanks, that's interesting. (Though not so long ago ago it would have been pistols at dawn for your insult to the honour of the regimental goat.)

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[info]buboniclou
2007-02-11 04:32 pm UTC (link)
What is it with the Persians giving odd animals to militaries?

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[info]benicek
2007-02-11 04:56 pm UTC (link)
I think it was the other way round. The Poles 'borrowed' the bear when they were in Iran :-)

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[info]buboniclou
2007-02-11 04:59 pm UTC (link)
Ahh...I gotcha.

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[info]overstrung
2007-02-11 02:11 pm UTC (link)
haha this is so awesome,

in spain there is a certain part of the army that has a goat (but not as nice looking as this one) as a mascot and they always carry the goat everywhere but i am not sure if they take the goat to battle as well, these pics are so funny, thank you!

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[info]evil_little_dog
2007-02-11 02:25 pm UTC (link)
LOVE the goats. I want one. Wonder if the nannies are as impressive as the goats.

(Welch? Welch? When did grape juice come into the picture?)

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[info]evil_little_dog
2007-02-11 02:31 pm UTC (link)
LOVE the goats. I want one. Wonder if the nannies are as impressive as the goats. The fact that the one listed is "Taffy" amuses me to no end.

(Welch? Welch? When did grape juice come into the picture?)

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[info]petrusplancius
2007-02-11 03:07 pm UTC (link)
'Welch' was an alternative for 'Welsh' in older English, reflecting an alternative pronunciation. It fell into disuse except in regimental names, the Welch Regiment and the Royal Welch Fusiliers (the latter still surviving), but now as pronounced in the usual manner. They did try to change the name of both regiments to reflect modern usage just before WW1, but tradition dies hard and they reverted to the old names.

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[info]evil_little_dog
2007-02-11 03:11 pm UTC (link)
Was unaware of that. Thank you for the lesson - I love my history. *grins*

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[info]simonator
2007-02-11 11:18 pm UTC (link)
And of course the argument could be made that the RWF still exixts because of the "incessant poetry."

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[info]twinkelbelpeach
2007-02-11 03:19 pm UTC (link)
Wonderful post. I've always had a fascination for WW1 and I love animals of all sorts, so this is a double treat.

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[info]locksmithy
2007-02-11 04:31 pm UTC (link)
now i'm curious about the bantams, too.
hardly boring. really really intriguing. thank you so much for the photos & wonderful lore.

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[info]petrusplancius
2007-02-11 06:50 pm UTC (link)
Yes, the bantams are intriguing. Since Britain did not have a large standing army, and public opinion had long been opposed to any form of compulsory military service (there was no conscription until 1916), the authorities had to be imaginative in their recruiting policies. One of their ideas was to encourage the formation of 'pals battalions' in which people who had worked together in some particular industry or profession could join up to fight alongside one another; another was to form these 'bantam' battalions to allow men who were under the minimum height of 5 foot 3 inches to join up. The first were recruited in England for the Cheshire Regiment because the idea was suggested by a Member of Parliament from that area. They were called bantams because bantams had once been used as fighting-cocks. One might have thought that there were some advantages in being small when it came to trench warfare. The Glamorgan Bantams certainly had a very distinguishes record, until they suffered such serious losses in April 1918 that they ceased to be an effective unit. I suspect that many of them may have been recruited from among the Welsh miners, who were a very tough people; they were popularly refferred to as the Rhondda Bantams (the Rhondda was one of the main mining districts). One can tell that the bottom goat was theirs because their bantam emblem can be seen on its coat above the regimental emblem of Prince of Wales feathers.

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[info]simonator
2007-02-11 11:21 pm UTC (link)
ISTR reading that due to the way the elistment requirements was written for the Bantams, there was one man who enlisted there because he was above the MAXIMUM height accepted in a normal regiment.

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[info]horsdumonde
2007-02-11 09:35 pm UTC (link)
Goats are underrated as soldiers; everyone has heard of, I am sure, Captain Nicholas Whitebeard who, although he was treated as a hero, refused to take on the mantle he'd earned as New Zealand's best goat soldier. Wounded many times, famous for taking risks others would not, he is one of the most highly decorated Commonwealth soldiers of WWII. Whitebeard won the Victoria Cross twice, the highest commendation a goat soldier could win in New Zealand. He is the only goat among dozens of Allied goats to be awarded both the Victoria Cross and Bar. 1941 Crete campaign was a 10-day pitched battle in which allied troops were slowly over run by the Nazis. Whitebeard repeatedly saved the lives of his men by sneaking up on German positions and butting them in their flanks.

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[info]nocturne333
2007-02-11 11:01 pm UTC (link)
Splendid - you're on top of your form today, Colonel Arthur Ahward. Bravo!

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[info]alfur
2007-02-11 11:59 pm UTC (link)
Totally brilliant contribution! Never apologise for giving good information and stories to go with photos. Thankyou muchly appreciated.

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