slayer of the poon perpetrators ([info]ill_esha) wrote in [info]vancouver,
@ 2005-10-24 10:03:00
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Sorry if this has been asked before..
Anyone with Shaw internet experiencing complete freezing within five minutes of starting a torrent?

And if you do several they all freeze at simultaneous scheduled intervals.. so you know it's the provider..

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[info]donnaidh_sidhe
2005-10-24 05:05 pm UTC (link)
I've heard of this problem happening to other people. I don't use BitTorrent, so I can't say for myself.

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[info]cypress
2005-10-24 05:15 pm UTC (link)
I wouldn't be suprised if they even limited the amount of bandwidth torrent applicants can use.

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[info]bondo
2005-10-24 05:25 pm UTC (link)
I actually received a warning from Shaw telling me that my internet usage with over what I was allowed. I was downloading Six Feet Under torrents.

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[info]ill_esha
2005-10-24 05:41 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, it seems to be TV shows that they hate the most. Every once in awhile I'll try and get something else and it'll work out fine.. I only have one show at a time though.. and right after I got the last episode of Six Feet Under, they must have put some kind of limiter on my account.. every episode of Lost is now an excruciating, painful undertaking requiring constant restarting.

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(no subject) - [info]bondo, 2005-10-24 05:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bondo, 2005-10-24 05:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]storyofherlife, 2005-10-24 08:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ill_esha, 2005-10-24 09:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]vinkint, 2005-10-24 11:01 pm UTC

[info]robnorth
2005-10-24 05:36 pm UTC (link)
I used to work at Shaw. I'm assuming you don't have "Lite". If you have regular internet, there's kind of an unwritten 20 GB/month limit; that's when you'll get the warning.

They recently brought in something called "Extreme", which has an explicit 50 GB/month limit for $10 extra. I got it, not so much because I do lots of torrents, but more because I have renters who are sharing the connection and I don't know what they're doing.

Might be something to think about. I don't work for 'em anymore, but I'm still a relatively satisfied customer.

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[info]ill_esha
2005-10-24 05:40 pm UTC (link)
I have Extreme. it's a f'in joke. My internet is so slow.. and I don't download a TON of torrents.. only one per week! and yet it freezes after five minutes. What is the point of paying extra for that.. GRR..

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(no subject) - [info]silentreality, 2005-10-24 10:51 pm UTC

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[info]somechick
2005-10-24 05:57 pm UTC (link)
I have Xtreme as well and dl tons of torrents.. but don't have any problems with them freezing. Have you tried using another bit torrent application?

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[info]ill_esha
2005-10-24 07:16 pm UTC (link)
I've been looking for one, but I hear that Bit Torrent is the best. What client do you use?

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(no subject) - [info]lyndszy, 2005-10-24 08:27 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]ill_esha, 2005-10-25 04:17 pm UTC

[info]resin
2005-10-24 06:17 pm UTC (link)
i use tomato torrent for mac
and it only freezes for a few seconds
heh

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[info]citrusladybug
2005-10-24 08:16 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for this, I was looking for a torrent client for macs.

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(no subject) - [info]jocelynn, 2005-10-24 09:13 pm UTC

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[info]vinculus
2005-10-24 06:17 pm UTC (link)
Is it your whole connection freezing, just your torrent client, or your entire computer freezing?

Are you accessing the internet straight through the cable modem or through a router?

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[info]ill_esha
2005-10-24 07:15 pm UTC (link)
The torrent client. It's like there's some kind of trigger.. after 5 minutes of downloading all the torrents stop simultaneously, and they're all from different sources, so I think it must be the provider. Or maybe some kind of setting in XP or my network card?
I access the internet through a hub.

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(no subject) - [info]vinculus, 2005-10-24 09:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ill_esha, 2005-10-24 09:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kisai, 2005-10-24 09:31 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]vinculus, 2005-10-25 07:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]spaz_own_joo, 2005-10-25 07:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ill_esha, 2005-10-25 04:16 pm UTC

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(no subject) - [info]silentreality, 2005-10-24 11:16 pm UTC

[info]observing_ego
2005-10-24 06:26 pm UTC (link)
I use shaw. And often my torrents run actively for hours on end. But there are times when it seems that I can't get one to download no matter how long I wait.

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[info]18x
2005-10-24 06:50 pm UTC (link)
I have no problems with BT on shaw.
BT speeds are based on client availability so you will see the speeds jump up and down and freeze from time to time.

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[info]ill_esha
2005-10-24 07:14 pm UTC (link)
no, but they all freeze simultaneously at calculated intervals. I can have 3 torrents going on from different providers and they ALL freeze after 5 minutes. It's definitely something Shaw has going on. Do you live in Vancouver proper? I heard they were doing some kind of test bottlenecking in Vancouver.. my friend in Surrey is fine.

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[info]oxmyx
2005-10-24 06:55 pm UTC (link)
A whole season of a TV show now takes almost a week for me to DL. WTF! Seems like Shaw put a restriction on my account but I have not gone over 20g in a month, the only one I did this month was maybe 8g. Plus, I did not get a letter.

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[info]ill_esha
2005-10-24 07:13 pm UTC (link)
I think they've taken the passive-aggressive approach and just started doing the bandwidth throttling to users with high download rates.

I haven't gone over 50g (my limit with Extreme) since July. I haven't even gone past 30g. And still i get this.

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(no subject) - [info]ill_esha, 2005-10-24 11:15 pm UTC

[info]cracksmurf
2005-10-24 07:05 pm UTC (link)
Good, it's not just me.

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[info]ill_esha
2005-10-24 09:23 pm UTC (link)
CB SHAW 4EVA!
;P

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[info]verities_
2005-10-24 08:49 pm UTC (link)
what bittorrent sites do you use?
i've been looking for a good one.

i download some tv shows and movies off of soulseek
Exeem is kind of slow.

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[info]inri33
2005-10-24 09:21 pm UTC (link)
mininova.org
torrentspy.com

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(no subject) - [info]ill_esha, 2005-10-24 09:23 pm UTC

[info]inri33
2005-10-24 09:21 pm UTC (link)
shaw purposefully throttles torrents.

there was a big thing about it online a while back but the only mainstream place to cover was the cbc i think. and they got the prez of shaw to admit it on camera.

i'd find you links but I'm lazy. googletime

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[info]closetsurgery
2005-10-24 09:43 pm UTC (link)
I've noticed it too.

:(

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[info]silentreality
2005-10-24 10:49 pm UTC (link)
Yes. Me and [info]deviant_mute have been experiencing this for about 4 weeks now.

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[info]seaofnames
2005-10-24 11:39 pm UTC (link)
Anyone have Shaw hooked up to a wireless router having problems as well? I cant get my wireless going.

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[info]spaz_own_joo
2005-10-25 05:53 am UTC (link)
Hey, is anyone having some computer problems? I was having some. They could be related, you know.

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[info]funvill
2005-10-25 03:53 am UTC (link)
Change your default port for BT downloads,
it makes a world of difference,

Recently discovered & verified - Some ISPs are throttling the traffic on the BitTorrent default ports. Changing the ports from the default range to a different range (in the 50000's) changed downloading from a trickle (1-2 kB/s) to The Way It Should Be (up to 330 kB/s on a 3000/256 connection). This almost seems unethical, but ISPs have probably taken note that BitTorrent traffic has become over 50% of Internet traffic by some surveys. BitTorrent also saturates the 'slow' side of asymmetric connections with it's uploading, which upsets the 'surf and download' usage the cable modem providers are expecting from their typical user.

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