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Greetings one and all, and welcome back for US Election 2008's coverage of the third and final Presidential debate of this election cycle, from the campus of Hofstra University in Long Island, NY. This week, a confident Barack Obama leads in the national polls, but John McCain reckons he's got them right where he wants them. Only the next 3 weeks will tell for sure, but in the mean time tonight's debate represents the only scheduled occasion the two candidates will have to confront one another directly before the election.

We'll be here to highlight key points and ask some questions, but as always this is all about you, so join the fray and tell us what you think. And stay tuned for the post-debate insta-poll... we'll be asking you to tell us who you think won, and why.

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[info]election_orange wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:02 am (UTC)
Here we go...
The candidates and moderator Bob Schieffer are on stage and are seated at the table.

Moderator fun fact: Bob Schieffer has been chief of the CBS News Washington Bureau since 1982, and is one of a select few broadcast journalists to have covered the White House, Pentagon, Congress, and the State Department.
[info]shannondela wrote:
Oct. 19th, 2008 01:45 am (UTC)
Re: Here we go...
You've now devoted three evenings of your life to watching perhaps the emptiest charades of this Leap Year: the debates between two truly unexceptional candidates. How much better informed on topics worth knowing do you now feel after this sacrifice of precious time? How much did their peevish exchanges, their sour comments about each other's careers and characters, burnish the US presidency and the absurdly protracted break-dancing that is the process of getting a new boondoggler into the White House? What's worthless is worthless. No dormant force within the United Stats of America can inject even the merest sturdy substance into these egregious debates.
Now they are over, go mow the lawn, or try your luck with that pleasant divorcee who lives two streets down from you. You'd do yourself a favour if you marked a long-term enrty into a mulltiple-years' diary: No more courting brain rot watching candidates' debates for any kind of election.
[info]brennakimi wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:05 am (UTC)
(pssst. watch it on cspan. no commentary!!)
[info]credendovides wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 06:54 am (UTC)
What networks have commentary? Do they actually speak up during the debate and discuss it, or are you referring to the talking heads after it's over?
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[info]election_orange wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:05 am (UTC)
Reagan name-dropping
McCain drops Nancy Reagan's name during the first 20 seconds.

Of course, we all wish the former First Lady a speedy recovery.
[info]election_orange wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:06 am (UTC)
Tonight's drinking game: Middle Class
Drink! Twice!
[info]election_orange wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:08 am (UTC)
Uh... no.
Schieffer: "Would you like to ask Senator Obama a question?"

McCain: "Uh... no."
[info]election_orange wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:10 am (UTC)
Zing!
Obama: "He's been watching some ads of Senator McCain's"

OMG ROTFL.

*Sigh*
[info]brennakimi wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:11 am (UTC)
Joe the plumber. There's only one plumber named Joe in Ohio.

And, he's SCARED@!!!
[info]tribal_woman wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:16 am (UTC)
LOL just saw this! Yes!
(no subject) - [info]fannyanns - Oct. 16th, 2008 01:53 am (UTC) Expand
[info]tribal_woman wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:11 am (UTC)
Do you think there's any chance we'll hear maverick?
[info]brennakimi wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:13 am (UTC)
give it time.
[info]election_orange wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:12 am (UTC)
A direct question!!!!
McCain directly asks Obama "Why would you want to raise anybody's taxes right now?"

It's a first! Viva table!
[info]tribal_woman wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:15 am (UTC)
Re: A direct question!!!!
It is. I'm shocked frankly...about time.
[info]brennakimi wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:16 am (UTC)
homg! businesses pay 35% taxes!!!

except not. that's the base rate. but they keep getting specific cuts and protections and incentives and almost none pay that rate... except maybe the small businesses who can't afford a big, fancy accountant.

btw. there's more to choosing a location for your business than tax rates. even with our tax rate and our rising employment costs, companies have been moving jobs back to the states because their consumers are here and shipping is RIDONCULOUS. (yes. i did just use that word.)

also, mccain's not wearing a flag pin!!!!!!!!!
homg.
[info]joannkatana wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:20 am (UTC)
what to cut...
McCain wants a line item veto... dig against Obama about off shore drilling - which I remember Obama saying he wasn't opposed - just that it wasn't the whole answer...

Obama seemed a bit more rattled initially, but now, it seems to be McCain
Re: what to cut... - [info]brennakimi - Oct. 16th, 2008 01:23 am (UTC) Expand
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[info]election_orange wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:18 am (UTC)
Across-the-board spending freeze
Obama pretty much dodges the spending question, and then McCain brings out his hatchet to announce a plan for a spending freeze.
[info]brennakimi wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:19 am (UTC)
WOAH.

wait. did he really just suggest we raise home values?

is he seriously not smart enough to know we just got out of the biggest and most devastating housing bubble ever? does he not know how many people have been victimized by the unethical speculating in the housing market?

what a moron.
[info]election_orange wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:19 am (UTC)
Oy! Enough with the overhead projector already.
McCain's anti-earmark, great. But how many times is he going to roll out the overhead projector?
[info]tribal_woman wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:21 am (UTC)
Obama: When President Bush came into office we had a budget surplus...

Sing my song! Thank you! Where did the surplus go? :)

I had plans for that surplus...

Edited at 2008-10-16 01:24 am (UTC)
[info]election_orange wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:21 am (UTC)
SNAP! No you didn't!
McCain zings Obama: "I am not President Bush. If you wanted to run against President Bush, you should have run 4 years ago!"
[info]tribal_woman wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:23 am (UTC)
Re: SNAP! No you didn't!
I thought he delivered that one very well and was a good way to reiterate, "I'm a different man."

Edited at 2008-10-16 01:23 am (UTC)
Re: SNAP! No you didn't! - [info]brennakimi - Oct. 16th, 2008 01:24 am (UTC) Expand
Re: SNAP! No you didn't! - [info]tribal_woman - Oct. 16th, 2008 01:26 am (UTC) Expand
Re: SNAP! No you didn&#39;t! - [info]brennakimi - Oct. 16th, 2008 01:27 am (UTC) Expand
Re: SNAP! No you didn't! - [info]tribal_woman - Oct. 16th, 2008 01:32 am (UTC) Expand
Re: SNAP! No you didn't! - [info]brennakimi - Oct. 16th, 2008 01:36 am (UTC) Expand
Re: SNAP! No you didn't! - [info]joannkatana - Oct. 16th, 2008 01:38 am (UTC) Expand
Re: SNAP! No you didn't! - [info]brennakimi - Oct. 16th, 2008 01:40 am (UTC) Expand
Re: SNAP! No you didn&#39;t! - [info]joannkatana - Oct. 16th, 2008 01:48 am (UTC) Expand
Re: SNAP! No you didn&amp;#39;t! - [info]brennakimi - Oct. 16th, 2008 01:52 am (UTC) Expand
Re: SNAP! No you didn&amp;amp;#39;t! - [info]joannkatana - Oct. 16th, 2008 01:53 am (UTC) Expand
Re: SNAP! No you didn&amp;amp;amp;#39;t! - [info]brennakimi - Oct. 16th, 2008 01:54 am (UTC) Expand
Re: SNAP! No you didn't! - [info]mightyafrodite - Oct. 16th, 2008 03:26 am (UTC) Expand
[info]election_orange wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:26 am (UTC)
Great question, Bob
Schieffer takes the candidates to task for the negativity. Can't wait to see how the candidates squirm out of this one.
[info]election_orange wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:31 am (UTC)
McCain wins the first third
He's on the offensive, and according to the CNN focus bar, it's resonating. I give the first third to McCain on points.
[info]mightyafrodite wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 03:27 am (UTC)
Re: McCain wins the first third
Not when it is the major thrust of his response. He spent less time talking about his own plan, and gave Obama more time to discuss his in detail. As a strategy, it's boneheaded.
[info]joannkatana wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:34 am (UTC)
hm. Interruptions do not help Obama, I don't think.

I think it was good for Obama to bring up the rally yells saying 'Kill him'... and wow. McCain - 'not happy' about versus - 'kill him'? hm. not quite equivalent to me... *shrug* I have a bias.
[info]brennakimi wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:37 am (UTC)
me too. i have a bias against people threatening people's lives.
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[info]election_orange wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:37 am (UTC)
Here comes Ayers...
McCain drops Ayers. Obama responds: "Mr Ayers is the centerpiece of John McCain's campaign."
[info]tribal_woman wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:38 am (UTC)
Re: Here comes Ayers...
The body language of both candidates is amazing...
Re: Here comes Ayers... - [info]joannkatana - Oct. 16th, 2008 01:38 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Here comes Ayers... - [info]tribal_woman - Oct. 16th, 2008 01:39 am (UTC) Expand
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[info]joannkatana wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:40 am (UTC)
Running mate!
[info]tribal_woman wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:41 am (UTC)
Excellent question! I vote for Bob to be moderator always!
(no subject) - [info]brennakimi - Oct. 16th, 2008 01:42 am (UTC) Expand
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[info]election_orange wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:41 am (UTC)
Running Mates!
Schieffer is having a good night as moderator... this is one of the best Presidential debates I've seen in my lifetime, so far.
[info]election_orange wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:42 am (UTC)
Obama doesn't take the bait
His constant refrain: Economy, health care, middle-class tax cut. No mention of Sarah Palin.
[info]brennakimi wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:44 am (UTC)
lol. after 5 months, she understands special needs children better than any american he knows.

asshole.
[info]election_orange wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:46 am (UTC)
Cockamamie!
That one's gonna get a run on YouTube.
[info]tribal_woman wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:46 am (UTC)
Re: Cockamamie!
Oh yeah. There's one you don't hear everyday.
[info]sparkstealer wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:47 am (UTC)
Wouldn't all of our foreign oil come from other countries??

Or did I mis-hear that?
[info]brennakimi wrote:
Oct. 16th, 2008 01:50 am (UTC)
i still want to know why people think purchasing oil from oil companies gives us a chance to pick the source?

also, how in the world is nuclear power going to reduce our dependence on oil of any kind? we don't put nuclear rods in our cars and planes and trucks and buses and so forth.
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