gocalifornia8 ([info]gocalifornia8) wrote in [info]ucberkeley,
@ 2007-05-07 15:42:00
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Daily Cal
What is the general consensus on the paper?  I've somewhat read it for the last 2 years and have come to the conclusion that is it complete biased garbage.  How is it possible for Berkeley's premier paper to be so bad?

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[info]piebalding
2007-05-07 10:53 pm UTC (link)
It's only good for the crossword - they get me through my early classes with a minimum of boredom.

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[info]scottnak
2007-05-07 11:02 pm UTC (link)
Yup. I thought that's all the newspaper was good for?
Oh. And sudoku i guess.

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[info]pinappl919
2007-05-07 11:54 pm UTC (link)
But the crosswords are terrible! (I still do them, but wince at the repetitiveness of the clues, the misspellings of answers, and the omission of clues)

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[info]berkeleybeetle
2007-05-07 11:57 pm UTC (link)
My favorite for the year was "Chinese Province: Taiwan"

Omission of clues is just one of those things that increases the difficulty. The answers you can come up without them are better, anyway.

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[info]pinappl919
2007-05-08 12:12 am UTC (link)
Once when they left out a whole slew of clues, we took the next day's paper with solutions and had someone make up clues.

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[info]ikon_
2007-05-07 11:00 pm UTC (link)
Most school's papers are sponsored by the journalism department. We don't have an undergraduate journalism department. So they're left to their own crappy devices.

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[info]berkeleybeetle
2007-05-07 11:22 pm UTC (link)
It's also independent, so even if there was such a department, it couldn't sponsor it.

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[info]__feverdream
2007-05-07 11:38 pm UTC (link)
my guess: we have a really amazing english department and all the good writers spend their time, well, doing homework and writing theses for the amazing english department.

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[info]berkeleybeetle
2007-05-07 11:39 pm UTC (link)
Just out of curiosity, what do you find "biased" about it?

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[info]gocalifornia8
2007-05-07 11:48 pm UTC (link)
i wonder if this bashing will make the clog, or will the daily cal just pretend to ignore the facts once again

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[info]vokzal
2007-05-08 04:01 am UTC (link)
Maybe if you write them. And write them something with a topic. Like "your reporting on ---- was poor because it lacked insight into ----."

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[info]_civetadei
2007-05-08 08:02 am UTC (link)
http://clog.dailycal.org/402/we-spy-yes-the-clog-reads-livejournal-religiously

haha

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[info]lv_somegirls
2007-05-08 12:22 am UTC (link)
haterrrrrrrrrrrs

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[info]okaydo
2007-05-08 12:40 am UTC (link)
I think this video will answer all your questions:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tpHNxhxrd6M

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[info]sir_fitzy
2007-05-08 12:52 am UTC (link)
I hate Sonja Sharp's columns. They are so incoherent and juvenile.

The addition of sudoku was welcome, and I enjoy the crossword (except for some of its overly vague clues eg. "five letter word for a greek letter," etc.). The spelling errors and blatant omission of some clues is bothersome, though.

They need to work on space management, though. It's irritating not having a single article that fits on only one page. Maybe they want more headlines on the cover in order to attract attention to more stories, but it makes reading stories a chore.

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[info]ariennette
2007-05-08 01:39 am UTC (link)
ugh sonja.

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[info]yaksordrpepper
2007-05-08 02:53 am UTC (link)
agreed. Sonja definately needs to stop writing editorials.

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[info]antiepiphany
2007-05-08 12:57 am UTC (link)
i think the problem is more that there is not a strong bias in the news section, than there being a bias. the news is often undeveloped, misreported, or under-covered.

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[info]bogie_bacall
2007-05-08 02:18 am UTC (link)
I only read the comics & advertisements for egg donors, and do soduku.

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[info]berkeleybeetle
2007-05-08 02:53 am UTC (link)
...... I think I must missed something when I learned human anantomy.

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[info]yaksordrpepper
2007-05-08 02:54 am UTC (link)
yup. eggs+male? who knew....

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[info]simrvr
2007-05-08 03:24 am UTC (link)
um, falze?

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[info]chasingred
2007-05-08 02:51 am UTC (link)
i admit to having only read a few issues. for the issues i read though, they seemed fine. plus all the people ive ever met from the daily cal have been nothing but insanely awesome people. its hard for me to believe something non-awesome could come from such awesome people.

seriously though, i worked in indie print publishing for almost five years before coming to college. if any of you guys think you could rustle up an organization that puts out a newspaper daily, let alone do a better job than the daily cal, i'd be really impressed. sure its not the new york times, but give it some slack. its a daily publication that is independently operated. its insane to run a daily newspaper operation. for what it is, i think they do fine.

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[info]petitenatal
2007-05-08 03:25 am UTC (link)
I second this plus would like to point out that the daily cal is a student run newspaper, that means that the people that work there are going to school just like the rest of us, they have classes, papers and finals, and at the same time work almost full time hours at the newspaper.

The daily cal also wins numerous awards for its content. So yeah, if your comparing it to professional dailys it falls short, but for a student newspaper is pretty damn good.

and daily cal people are awesome.

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[info]vokzal
2007-05-08 04:04 am UTC (link)
Yeah. I think the standard rejoiner to this sort of complaint is "go make it better".

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[info]honkyplease
2007-05-08 03:25 am UTC (link)
Ditto.

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[info]eversincedaft
2007-05-08 03:12 am UTC (link)
Anyone else have trouble believing that the girl who writes the "Sex on Tuesdays" column has ever had sex?

Sports section is decent though.

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[info]honkyplease
2007-05-08 03:26 am UTC (link)
One of them, some girl with a Japanese name, is very very very cute, so I imagine she has.

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[info]heymon32
2007-05-08 05:39 am UTC (link)
Akiko something... darn, I used to know her name. But yeah, she's pretty damn cute.

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[info]heymon32
2007-05-08 05:42 am UTC (link)
Akiko Ezuka, there we go.

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[info]r_oxymoron
2007-05-08 04:08 am UTC (link)
i've never read a good "sex on tuesdays"
i hope they fix that.

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[info]jessroxmysox
2007-05-08 04:10 am UTC (link)
UGH! I KNOW! I especially hate the cheesy cliches that saturate her artices. She's NOT funny and the articles are not HOT.

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[info]skippyandebsy
2007-05-10 07:54 am UTC (link)
i agree with this.... her sex jokes are so contrived, she can't know what she is talking about. For example: did anyone believe she has a bend over boyfriend??? aka a boyfriend who likes to get it in the butt with her using a strap-on???

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[info]paulney
2007-05-08 04:20 am UTC (link)
Daily Cal could be better if they stuck to their guns. Every now and then someone has the guts to write about a thorny issue, and the next day when an angry crowd shows up with torches and pitchforks, Daily Cal goes on a tour of public ass kissing and apologies.

Ugh. Nothing worse than a paper run by flip-flops.

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[info]eigenvalue
2007-05-08 06:08 am UTC (link)
the columns this year suck so freakin bad.

but i think the news articles on the front page are usually pretty interesting and well-done.

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[info]nerdy_kiki
2007-05-08 08:17 am UTC (link)
Honestly, for a daily student publication, its not bad at all
Things that I hate:
1) None of the articles ever fit on 1 page
2) Sex on Tuesday is terrible, it feels like the way its written is like, "OMG WE ARE OPENLY TALKING ABOUT SEX, WE ARE HARDCOREEEEE.....but we don't have anything to say :(
lets wiki every possible term for vagina and use them all!!1"

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[info]conceptual
2007-05-08 09:14 am UTC (link)
Nerd on Wednesdays was the only good column, confirm/deny

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[info]aepfelx
2007-05-08 05:02 pm UTC (link)
the best column _title_ was a few years back when the wednesday guy pulled this:

http://www.dailycal.org/sharticle.php?id=3161

(don't remember what the actual column was about -- and didn't bother re-reading it now either -- but that title was awesome)

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[info]conceptual
2007-05-08 05:32 pm UTC (link)
As in, it comes after Sex on Tuesday? Pretty good. The first story is amusing too, and jibes well with my new t-shirt

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[info]okaydo
2007-05-08 09:55 am UTC (link)
Exactly how many newspapers have stories that finish on the front page? I don't think it's ever be done before...

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[info]cigsandcoffeee
2007-05-08 05:35 pm UTC (link)
yeah.. the columns this year weren't particularly interesting.. i wish they would run a full opinion page everyday instead of just the random columns..

but as far as overall quality goes, the daily cal isn't terrible, but it's not good either.

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[info]johnstarks
2007-05-09 12:40 pm UTC (link)
eh, at least this daily cal shits funny. http://clog.dailycal.org/407/finals-week-ranking-the-depraved-stuff-we-do-during-these-trying-times

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