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12 June 2008 @ 09:59 pm
David Davies - why am I not surprised at THIS development?  
So suddenly, now that Nick Clegg and the rest of my party have agreed to not field a candidate against him, David Davies is broadening his platform from the single issue of 42 days and presuming to speak on all issues of civil liberty and making himself sound like he (and by extension, his party) are the sole defenders of liberty in this country...

We're far too nice in our party, aren't we? How did nobody see this coming?

We should have told the tory tosser to stuff it, stood against him, and said you don't honestly think you'd have any more freedom under the Tories, do you? But no, we thought we'd be cuddly and fluffy, and have now been knifed in the back for it.

Fucking marvellous.

Of course, thinking about some of the members of my party, especially the local party, it's not like we'd be any better than the main two, either... Just look at our transport policy, for starters. We look at Darling, the worst transport secretary in... in forever, and we look at his policies, and somehow, instead of saying Christ, that's horrendous! we ADOPT them.

I am so depressed with the whole boiling. I'd take Moodie's attitude (that one should laugh at politicians rather than be depressed by them) apart from one minor problem. THIS AFFECTS ALL OF OUR LIVES. Their petty willy-waving and macho posturing is fucking up life for the rest of us and it pisses me off.
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That would be an oecumenical question![info]burkesworks on June 12th, 2008 09:33 pm (UTC)
If I were you I wouldn't bother with QT tonight; it's Michael Gove, Sun hack George Pascoe-Watson, and McNutty, versus Shirley Williams. And Christ only knows why June Sarpong is on.
SB: Moods - In Need of Gin[info]miss_s_b on June 12th, 2008 09:42 pm (UTC)
I have something important to help me cope (see icon).

Pascoe-Watson just made a good point. Cthulhu help us, we're doomed.
Paul Alexander Mudie[info]pmoodie on June 12th, 2008 09:58 pm (UTC)
I'd take Moodie's attitude (that one should laugh at politicians rather than be depressed by them) apart from one minor problem. THIS AFFECTS ALL OF OUR LIVES. Their petty willy-waving and macho posturing is fucking up life for the rest of us and it pisses me off.

I know how you feel, I felt the same way in my teens while the country was groaning under the evil tyranny of the Thatcher regime, and I think that burned something out of me at an early age. I was getting so worked up about it all and was truly terrified of what I believed to be an imminent nuclear armageddon, that I realised I had to switch it off or go insane.

So something in my brain went "ping" and I became an absurdist. The absurdity of British politics, and politics in general, became something I could relate to, and at the same time, distance myself from. Look at the stupid humans and the ludicrous games they play! And so my sanity was saved. Part of it anyway...

Trouble is, now I find it hard to take any of that stuff seriously, even when I know I really should take it seriously. It was an excellent survival mechanism, but at what cost?
(Anonymous) on June 12th, 2008 11:05 pm (UTC)
He set out that platform from the beginning AIUI - certainly his reisgnation statement covered more than just 42 days.
SB[info]miss_s_b on June 12th, 2008 11:07 pm (UTC)
Then why the hell did Clegg say we'll support him? We're getting into bed with someone who is extremely socially conservative and we're going to lose out because of it.
[info]fabulousblueporcupine.wordpress.com on June 12th, 2008 11:09 pm (UTC)
No, he hasn't "broadened" his platform. It's not like he's suddenly talking tax or schools. He is using the term "British liberties" which, alas, he has every right to do. Like I said earlier, we can gripe all we want about this being a cynical stunt, but the fact is he thought of it first. And as soon as he did, we were never going to win this by-election. Whichever way you slice it we'd either have been the dull-but-worthy second or worse still the ingrates who were mean and nasty to some national hero figure.

The campaigning line "you don't honestly think you'd have any more freedom under the Tories, do you" is essentially the one we've been using ever since their resurrection began - a sort of general "Oh, come *on*!". I've yet to see any signs of it working. And that's partly for reasons you and I usually agree on - it's just too fucking negative. Put to the test in a by-election it would bomb.
SB[info]miss_s_b on June 12th, 2008 11:16 pm (UTC)
Yes, but this way we are saying "vote Tory because they can protect your liberties and we can't!" and we are giving a MASSIVE poll boost to the tories when they don't need it.

"the fact is he thought of it first. And as soon as he did, we were never going to win this by-election."

Absolutely, but we could have been principled losers. As it is, every single person who says "well, the tories will protect my liberties and they're going to get in, so I'll vote for them because there's no point voting Lib Dem" has just been given a big stamp of approval by us.
meegat[info]meegat on June 12th, 2008 11:15 pm (UTC)
I'm still seriously fucked off that this is basically corruption.

The government bought votes. Simple as that.

And there I was thinking votes for cash was against the law.

shows what I know...