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19 March 2008 @ 10:40 am
Happy Birthday War  
So, I made a commitment to the blogswarm that I would post about the war in Iraq today. The war that was supposedly over almost five years ago, having started five years ago tomorrow... And I'm finding it hard, mainly because I don't have any solutions to offer.

- Over a million Iraqi people have died
- countless more have been maimed and scarred and lost family members
- Thousands of British and American soldiers, and soldiers of other nationalities have died, been wounded, lost their livelihoods.
- politicians on all sides have been exposed as venal, self-serving hypocrites.
- Many members of the armed forces have turned out to find torture entertaining.
- Our oldest, strongest ally has turned out to be in favour of kidnap, torture, imprisonment without trial, kangaroo courts and the execution of men convicted on flimsy evidence. We have no room on the moral high ground.
- the political system of the country I love has been irrevocably damaged by the bare-faced lies told by our politicians, the contempt with which they ignored public opinion, and the consequent utter disenfranchisement of the anti-war majority. The breezy paternalism with which we were all ignored still rankles with me.
- all of this has resulted in a bonanza of recruitment for the extremists and people who hate everyone who does not share their religious convictions on both sides.

There's no point in handwringing and bemoaning the fact that nobody listened to Winston Churchill, but what else can we do? It's all a big horrible mess. And, at this point, whatever we do can only make things worse. For some time now we have been part of the problem in Iraq, not part of the solution. But if we withdraw, the place will further descend into civil war and more people will die. If we stay, we continue to be the focus of the ire of the Iraqi people and all of us, Western and Iraqi, continue to die.

The point of this blogswarm is supposed to be to show the mainstream media and the political elite that anti-war feeling still exists and is not going to go away. I suspect that is also why Mitch Benn has chosen tomorrow to release his new single. But they didn't listen to us then, and I can't see them listening to us now. If we could offer a solution, then maybe they would. But we can't, because there isn't one.

It's times like this when I feel glad for my disbelief in deity. Because if I did believe in God(dess)(es) I'd be rather worried about what their judgment would be on me, because I could have done more to prevent this. I wonder how the people in decision-making positions feel?
 
 
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options3000[info]options3000 on March 19th, 2008 12:28 pm (UTC)
The war is morally reprehensible. So many people are still afraid to say so, for fear of some sort of retribution. Of course, as a pacifist, I oppose all war. Still, this one leaves a particularly rotten taste in my mouth.

No, it's at times like this that I am glad that I believe in a God that is not judgmental and allows us to make our mistakes and grow as a race, costly and hurtful as that might be. Then again, I'm not a true theist.

I still hold on to the hope that we will one day get beyond this. Otherwise we will drive ourselves to extinction. There is no choice but to hope and to work towards true peace.
SB[info]miss_s_b on March 19th, 2008 09:53 pm (UTC)
There is no choice but to hope and to work towards true peace.

Amen to that.
Uncle Steve: bush bald[info]tyrell on March 19th, 2008 12:44 pm (UTC)
It's not just the stupidity of it (everybody - EVERYBOOODDDDYYYY told them it couldn't work) it's the constant lies. They haven't stopped lying since the beginning, and it's not small stuff. An absolutely damning litany of incompetence, negligence, greed and ignorance. The war crimes tribunals are going to be busy for the next 30 years on this one.
endless psychologist[info]endless_psych on March 19th, 2008 12:50 pm (UTC)
Many members of the armed forces have turned out to find torture entertaining.

I suggest the work and writings of Phillip Zimbardo as further reading on this point - particularly the Stanford Prison Experiment. Lest we start buying into the notion that its a "few rotten apples" as oppossed to a "rotten barrel".
SB[info]miss_s_b on March 19th, 2008 09:55 pm (UTC)
Oh I'm /very/ familiar with the Stamford prison experiment.
Paul Alexander Mudie[info]pmoodie on March 19th, 2008 04:34 pm (UTC)
I wonder how the people in decision-making positions feel?

I increasingly tend to go with Kurt Vonnegut's belief that they don't feel a damned thing. He claimed that the World is run by sociopaths who can gleefully sign away the lives of thousands, even millions of people they've never met and hardly bat an eyelid.

Anyone with their finger on the proverbial button should have to submit to regular psuchological testing and at the first sign of abnormally low levels of empathic feeling for their fellow human beings - whoosh! They're for the bloody chop.
Amanda[info]neohippie on March 19th, 2008 09:14 pm (UTC)
I think I read somewhere, like from an actual psychologist who knows what she's talking about, that sociopaths make especially good CEO's. I bet they make good politicians too.
SB[info]miss_s_b on March 19th, 2008 09:55 pm (UTC)
I would not be at all surprised.
Paul Alexander Mudie[info]pmoodie on March 19th, 2008 10:23 pm (UTC)
Yeah, they make great decision makers because they don't give a shit about the harmful consequences of their actions. Where you and I would agonise about the possible results, they press the big red button wihtout hesitation.

And they can lie convincingly about their reasons for doing so because they truly can't see that there's anything wrong with what they've done!