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07 January 2009 @ 09:45 pm
The End of Christmas  
Today being thirteenth night (what? We run on Goth Time!) we took the tree down tonight. This was facilitated somewhat by the arrival of the Christmas present from Claire in York (well done Royal Mail, did you bring it by Oxcart?), which was a copy of We Wish You a Metal Christmas. Obviously this was the perfect soundtrack for taking down the tree, and Small Person approved particularly of Alice Cooper's version of Santa Claus is Coming to Town and the very noisy Deck the Halls. Mat and I were more amused by - You may say there's no such thing as Santa, but as for me and Grandpaw, we believe - and there was much giggling and a bit of headbanging while we dismantled the tree.

We now have (whisper it, for it will not last) a mostly tidy living room. The TV has a motley population of ne'er do wells on top of it, including Pratchett!Death, a Sea Devil, a Zygon, and Boris Karloff; the shelves are full of Doctor Who DVDs; and my lava lamp which I got for my 18th from cousin Jude is flowing nicely. I am sitting on the sofa to type this, and I feel like we have accomplished something together, as a family.

It's little moments like this that make life worth living.

(for those of you wondering, I managed to cadge a lift home from work, and thus didn't even have to pay for a taxi! Thanks Sammi!)
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Debi Linton: hogswatch[info]innerbrat on January 7th, 2009 10:04 pm (UTC)
Wasn't today the fourteenth?
Fortune depends on the tone of your voice[info]bopeepsheep on January 7th, 2009 10:25 pm (UTC)
It was. Twelfth Night runs Jan 5-Jan 6 (overnight; ends at dawn) and thus trees etc. should have come down on Monday night.
SB[info]miss_s_b on January 7th, 2009 10:33 pm (UTC)
I think you should have this argument with my mum.
Fortune depends on the tone of your voice[info]bopeepsheep on January 7th, 2009 10:42 pm (UTC)
The only way that would work is if 25 Dec is not a Day/Night of Christmas. Which is illogical nonsense, and you can tell your mum that from my mum. :D
SB[info]miss_s_b on January 7th, 2009 10:32 pm (UTC)
We always took the tree down on the sixth of Jan when I was lickle...
Debi Linton: hogswatch[info]innerbrat on January 7th, 2009 10:42 pm (UTC)
I'm willing to have the argument with your mum! The first night is December 25th, so:

1. 25/12
2. 26/12
3. 27/12
4. 28/12
5. 29/12
6. 30/12
7. 31/12
8. 1/1
9. 2/1
10. 3/1
11. 4/1
12. 5/1

The 6th is only the 12th night if Boxing day is the first, which it isn't.
Fortune depends on the tone of your voice[info]bopeepsheep on January 7th, 2009 10:45 pm (UTC)
Thank you, that saved me typing it out too. :D


Also: Advent ends on Dec 24th. Christmas runs Dec 25th-Jan 5th. Jan 6th is the Feast of Epiphany (i.e. start of Epiphany season), and you cannot have Christmas and Epiphany happening simultaneously, the same way you can't have February and March overlapping. Church seasons don't work that way.

Advent Year B, 2008-2009; Nov 30 - Dec 24, 2008)
Advent Season (Nov 30 - Dec 24, 2008)
Christmas (Dec 25, 2008 - Jan 5, 2009)
The Twelve Days of Christmas (Dec 25, 2008 - Jan 5, 2009)
Epiphany (and Ordinary Time until Lent) (Jan 6 - Feb 24, 2009)
Shrove Tuesday or Mardi Gras (Feb 24, 2009)
Ash Wednesday (Feb 25, 2009)
Lent (Mar 1 - April 11, 2009)
Holy Week (March 5-11 (12), 2009)
Maundy Thursday (April 9, 2009)
Good Friday (April 10, 2009)
Easter (April 12, 2009)
Pentecost (May 31, 2009)
Ordinary Time (June 1-Nov 28, 2009
Advent [Year C] (Nov 29 - Dec 24, 2009)
Debi Linton: religion[info]innerbrat on January 7th, 2009 10:52 pm (UTC)
- wait, why is the empty space between Ash Wednesday and Lent? Isn't the one the first night of the other?
Fortune depends on the tone of your voice[info]bopeepsheep on January 7th, 2009 10:57 pm (UTC)
Oooh, curious. Yes, I'd have thought so too (and double-checking, yes, Lent starts on Feb 25th i.e. Ash Wednesday). The list was c&p'd from a decent source but obviously not proofread properly! (It last started on 1 March in 2006.)
SB[info]miss_s_b on January 7th, 2009 10:45 pm (UTC)
I think, and I am guessing here, that EITHER she thinks it works like floors of a building - ground floor, first floor - and therefore boxing day is the first night OR she thinks you take the tree down AFTER twelfth night.

I'd ask, but she's in Fuerteventura.
Debi Linton: hogswatch[info]innerbrat on January 7th, 2009 10:50 pm (UTC)
Oh well! I'm sure it hardly matters. I don't do tradition, just whatever's cool.
Normal For Norfolk[info]sideshow_meg on January 7th, 2009 10:46 pm (UTC)
I always thought January the was the night of epiphany and you should take down your tree either on that day or before. I am with you on this one!
rhythmaning[info]rhythmaning on January 7th, 2009 10:50 pm (UTC)
Oxcart? The postman could have walked from York to your bit of Yorkshire in that time!!!
Padawanpooh: Xmas[info]padawanpooh on January 8th, 2009 03:15 pm (UTC)
Our tree is still up :-P We're rebellious like that. It'll have to wait until tomorrow or Saturday.

The world hasn't ended yet because we have Broken The Rules and I'm sure it won't anytime soon!

Your figures soound like FUN! I need to get me a Pratchett!Death and a Zygon.