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07 December 2008 @ 01:59 am
If you're going to Censor Something, at least do it properly...  
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Via [info]andrewducker:
Check the site here, which points out that all requests to Wikipedia from certain UK ISPs (like Virgin and Be) are being filtered through proxy servers - so that they can selectively filter it.

For instance, the link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Killer doesn't work (fake 404), but http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Virgin_Killer does...
Now, I don't actually want to look at the album cover for that particular Scorpions album - not just because the Scorpions are RUBBISH, but because the album cover is... distasteful, to say the least. But I'd quite like to know about the controversy surrounding it, and the fact that the link to the Wikipedia page just comes up as a blank page for me is very annoying indeed. If it said "BLOCKED FOR POSSIBLE CHILD PORN" that would tell me why.

Censoring is one thing, and I can see an argument for censoring images like that one, even though I don't think an image that the model (who is now an adult - older than me by a long way), is happy with and which has the genitalia obscured is ZOMG CHILD PORN. But even so, censoring and trying to hide it, and pretend that you're not? That's a whole 'nother bag of worms, people. Every time I get a blank page now, I'm going to wonder... Is that REALLY a dodgy load, or is it Virgin censoring me? (and the irony of my ISP's name is by no means lost on me)

I also want to know who the Internet Watch Foundation are. Who appoints them? Are they accountable in any way? Who decides whether or not they have exceeded their remit in barring access to something for the whole damn country? Their remit is to block "potentially" illegal content. Not DEFINITELY illegal, but POTENTIALLY. Given our lovely new laws about BDSM, that covers a whole huge fucking swathe of stuff.

Is everyone else cool with this; is it just me? Or is this really as worrying as I think it is? ETA: apparently not just me.
 
 
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( 17 rants — Post a new comment )
Uncle Steve: sneezecat[info]tyrell on December 7th, 2008 10:42 am (UTC)
*Puts his hand up* Really not just you.
(Anonymous) on December 7th, 2008 11:18 am (UTC)
It's no just you. I hadn't heard of the Internet Watch Foundation before this, and worry now I know they exist...

Doug
stupid stupid stupid: adventure! : crazed by rabies[info]strangefrontier on December 7th, 2008 04:36 pm (UTC)
"Potentially" illegal content? Well, gosh, there's a concept just ripe for being abused in a 1984ish way.
SB[info]miss_s_b on December 7th, 2008 06:08 pm (UTC)
To say nothing of the fact that UK users are now effectively one IP for Wikipedia purposes...
stupid stupid stupid: robin hood : sheriff want cookie[info]strangefrontier on December 7th, 2008 06:54 pm (UTC)
Problematic. :/ My grandfather still uses the dreaded bastard AOL, and surprisingly they're not filtering. Yet.
SB[info]miss_s_b on December 7th, 2008 06:59 pm (UTC)
I'm worried about the fact that, from January, the IWF is allowed to censor not just "child porn" - i.e. any naked pictures of children, even if they have already been censored, like that album cover - but other "potentially illegal" porn too... You know all that anti-BDSM legislation that came in last year? Breathplay and knife-play are certain to be included, whether or not the participants are consenting.

Anyone else feel like we just got shunted back in time to the 1950s?

:/

(also: icon love!)
stupid stupid stupid: tim minchin : thinky thinky[info]strangefrontier on December 7th, 2008 07:09 pm (UTC)
Thank you, mindless fear-mongering! I'm reminded of a post from the Sexual Intelligencec blog from last month about the playground that prohibits adults that aren't accompanied by children.

(I stole the sheriff's cookie!)
SB[info]miss_s_b on December 7th, 2008 07:13 pm (UTC)
We've got those in the UK too.
stupid stupid stupid: bsg : wish i had this service in my lab[info]strangefrontier on December 7th, 2008 07:21 pm (UTC)
Really? Jesus. I just.. can't... oh, brainfail. This whole topic gives me brainfail.
Notes from extinction: girl from mars[info]pickwick on December 7th, 2008 05:36 pm (UTC)
Bugger. I've been with Be for 18 months and this is the first issue I've had with them, but that's pretty major. And I don't like the look of those Internet Watch people either. Also the name makes me wonder if they're connected to MediaWatch, which, eek.
SB[info]miss_s_b on December 7th, 2008 05:42 pm (UTC)
Indeed.
Notes from extinction[info]pickwick on December 7th, 2008 06:05 pm (UTC)
On the other hand, this made me laugh - the Virgin Killer page has had nearly twice as many hits as any other wiki page in the past hour!
SB[info]miss_s_b on December 7th, 2008 06:07 pm (UTC)
LMAO the joy of unsuccessful censorship!
rhythmaning[info]rhythmaning on December 8th, 2008 05:25 pm (UTC)
Tasteless, yes. Illegal, no.

It sounds like pure bullying to me.
‮hjap‮[info]gominokouhai on December 9th, 2008 08:03 pm (UTC)
They've changed their minds, this once at least.
SB[info]miss_s_b on December 9th, 2008 08:07 pm (UTC)
Indeed, but I'm still going to wonder every time I get a 404.
‮hjap‮[info]gominokouhai on December 9th, 2008 09:21 pm (UTC)
Yes indeed. What else are they hiding from us?