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03 August 2008 @ 12:27 pm
That Tory Blogger - Another Naked Emperor.  
At the risk of making it sound like he has Voldemort-esque levels of power, which he most assuredly does not: I'm not going to mention That Tory Blogger's name in case, á la Candyman, he escapes his mirror world and goes on a killing spree. I figure most of you will know who I am talking about.

I don't begrudge anyone the right to read his blog: it's a (mostly) free internet, after all. If you want to read heavily-slanted Tory propaganda from a man who thinks Nadine Dorries is competent, you fill your boots. But I fail to understand why people buy into his self-publicity as granddaddy of the blogosphere, when there was a time not so long ago that he was begging my fiance for linkage. TTB's blog might well be entertaining (although on the few occasions I've looked at it, I've found little there that has been of interest to me), but to say that it's a pretty much essential read, frequently breaking stories that are then ones we all pay attention to, as Lynne Featherstone MP did yesterday, makes me want to claw my eyes out in horror.

For complex reasons of internet reciprocity and relentless self-publicism from the days when the political blogosphere was an even more insular group of white men in their thirties than it is now, TTB has become a hub. And in one sense, that's cool. It shows that with enough effort and backing from people like Lord Ashcroft and Stephan Shakespeare, ANYONE, no matter how mediocre and biased a writer, can become a prominent spokesman for an entire culture of which they represent a very tiny part (rather like when Iqbal Sacranie claims to speak for all muslims, when TTB claims to speak for the blogosphere, he is talking out of his arse). However, the idea that elected representatives are relying on him for news is frankly terrifying.

Relying on TTB for news is like relying on the Daily Fail for a snapshot of the mood of the people. The Fail does reflect the mindset of a particular type of person, but it does not reflect the entire people of the UK, or even a majority thereof, and thinking that it does is what has got the Labour Party into it's current predicament. Similarly, TTB does reflect the views of a certain type of political blogger, but not the majority of political bloggers, and let's not forget that the politics blogosphere in the UK is only about 2% of the whole. Of course his own publicity is going to say that he's the biggest and the best, but why do people believe it unquestioningly? TTB doesn't break news, he links other people breaking news, or pinches their news without linking if they are people he disagrees with politically, and then claims all the credit. Continuing to allow him to do this with impunity is like admiring the fine and beautiful new clothes of the naked emperor in the hopes that the emperor will notice you and confer some sort of imperial favour on you.

If you want breaking news you need to read stuff that is less rigidly self-publicising and selective than TTB as well as his blog, assuming you want to read him at all. Political Betting ([info]politicalbet_fd) always has interesting analysis and very lively and heated comments, and The Poll Report ([info]poll_report_fd) is similarly useful. And there's always the dear old Beeb. Hell, even the Torygraph's online stuff is pretty good, if you want something that slants rightwards. Whatever you choose to do, though, don't ever just rely on one source of news, especially not one as editorialising at TTB. That way lies frothing-at-the-mouth madness and unquestioning sheeplike parroting of someone else's views...

I suppose that there is possibly a certain value (for me and people in my area of the political spectrum) to reading TTB's blog from the point of view of knowing your enemy, but even then I would suggest that there are better places to go. The Cornerstone Group blog gives a very scary insight into the mind of the more antediluvian hang 'em, flog 'em and make 'em Christian brigade of the Tory party; if you can stomach the swearing Devil's Kitchen ([info]devils_kitchen) is excellent; Tom Harris is a Labour Minister who is adept at spouting the party line in a still-engaging way... The list goes on.

So let's stop being lazy and aiding TTB in his attempt to become the Google of the blogosphere, shall we? Because at the moment it looks very much from the outside as if one has to read him to become an accepted part of the political blogosphere, and that kind of insularity is not something I want to be involved in. Lots and lots of people do not read TTB's blog, and their views still matter.

In fact, lets have a poll on this, shall we? Like the previous polls on your sexual proclivities, (and unlike some of the other polls) anyone with an LJ log-in or open ID can vote, but nobody else will be able to see how you've voted, so your shame or glory will remain between you and I:

Poll #1234364 TTB
Open to: All, detailed results viewable to: None

Do you read That Tory Blogger's Blog?

Every entry
1 (4.2%)

Occasionally, if I'm bored
0 (0.0%)

Occasionally, if someone else links to him
7 (29.2%)

Never
2 (8.3%)

I don't even know who you are talking about.
14 (58.3%)



I still reckon that going and voting for anyone other than him in his beauty contest is a good plan, though. You've still got nearly two weeks.
 
 
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endless psychologist[info]endless_psych on August 3rd, 2008 12:45 pm (UTC)
I think more then someone claiming to represent the population its the misheld belief that the media and parlimentarians seem to have that the country is inherently right wing.

Or perhaps that right wing media sources are considered more trustworthy (as ridiculous as that seems) a hangover perhaps of support for the "socialist countries" and the old connection between the left, socialism and Russia.
SB[info]miss_s_b on August 3rd, 2008 12:50 pm (UTC)
This is partly because TTB says that the only blogs worth reading are right wing ones, and lazy journalists believe him instead of doing their own research. Rather like the "women don't blog" trope that gets trotted out by male bloggers occasionally.

Parliamentarians don't think that the country is right wing, they KNOW that the swing voters in the handful of seats that actually matter for whether or not you'll get into government are mostly right wing. This is a problem with a first-past-the-post electoral system with lots of safe seats, in which a small number of people's votes matter hugely, and the vast majority of people's votes don't matter in the slightest.
endless psychologist[info]endless_psych on August 3rd, 2008 12:51 pm (UTC)
That swing voters thing may be true SOUTH of the border ;)

STV FTW.
Mat Bowles[info]matgb on August 3rd, 2008 01:31 pm (UTC)
Swing voters exist in every constituency and the SNP more than any other party are specifically targetting them, especially true in Glasgow South recently where they managed to mobilise former non-voting-because-it's-a-safe-seat types to turn out in large numbers, etc.

Sure, four way marginal seats are still common up there due to the interesting dynamics of the different electoral systems but down here the swing is crucial, and it's only very recently that Labour's starting to realise the possibility of a Cameron minority Govt propped up by SNP/Plaid support and thus likely to concentrate more than they did in their former fiefdoms.
endless psychologist[info]endless_psych on August 4th, 2008 02:50 pm (UTC)
I don't doubt there are swing voters in constituencys in Scotland.

I just doubt they (at least the majority thereof) are right wing...
The Evil Atheist Your Mother Warned You About: Science[info]davegodfrey on August 3rd, 2008 01:49 pm (UTC)
"The only blogs worth reading are right wing ones"

Piffle. Clearly the man isn't aware of the awesomeness that is Sauropod Vertebrae Picture Of The Week. And to further dispel the myth that "women don't blog" he might want to look at Cocktail Party Physics.
StaceyUK[info]staceyuk on August 3rd, 2008 01:28 pm (UTC)
Are we talking about Iain Dale or Guido Fawkes? I find the latter amusing myself... Don't read Dale.
SB[info]miss_s_b on August 3rd, 2008 01:34 pm (UTC)
Specifically the former, but I guess most of it applies to Guido aswell. I just don't count as a political blogger; he's a gossip columnist, and that sort of salaciousness doesn't really interest me.

Completely OT: have we got a TotW for [info]dw_academy tomorrow?
[info]ukcommentators.blogspot.com on August 3rd, 2008 01:52 pm (UTC)
Ian and Co
Ian's worth reading, but his and Guido's blogs are basically about personality - who's up, who's down and all that - not about policies. As long as you bear that in mind ... he and Guido are required reading for Westmisnhter watchers because it's a gossipy place, and there are lots of people who want to know who's are the coat-tails du jour, or which bandwaagon is currently rolling. I'm afraid to say we get the blogosphere we deserve aka the market has spoken.

(Easily the best small-c conservative policy blog is Richard and Helen's EU Referendum - quite awesome in scope, detail and knowledge)
SB[info]miss_s_b on August 3rd, 2008 05:13 pm (UTC)
Re: Ian and Co
Yeah, so like I said on Lynne's blog, Iain is the Sun and Guido is the Daily Fail, and I want to read the Times or the Indy...
StaceyUK[info]staceyuk on August 3rd, 2008 02:35 pm (UTC)
What about: Who would you like to see return to Doctor Who?

I quite fancy a question about the cyberman as I've found that I prefer the Classic!Who ones to the New!Who versions. Classic!Who one can be scary especially in Invasion.

Another possibility: Which writers would you like to see be given an opportunity to write an episode to the television series?

Third option: Are there Big Finish Audios or novilisations that you would love to see made into television episodes?

Fourth option: Which incarnations of the Doctor are overrated and underrated?

Need to keep these somewhere for future reference.
SB[info]miss_s_b on August 3rd, 2008 05:15 pm (UTC)
I think the first two are for nearer the next series.

Either three or four would be good.
dry_valleys[info]dry_valleys on August 3rd, 2008 01:48 pm (UTC)
I used to read him and challenge the Mail-reading shyte him and his contributors (who are even worse than him) were coming out with, then one day someone asked me what I was doing it because she had no idea whatsoever.

And it occured to me that it was a wholly pointless pursuit, so I stopped on that day and have never been back (I voted never).

I do read The Devil, he's quite good. Don't agree with most of his views and think he goes way too far most of the time, but he (and to a slightly lesser extent The Nameless One) are well ahead of the other "libertarians", who are for the most part tedious, repetitive and pathetic (hello Question That, Longrider, Spiked Online, Bishop Hill).

Letters From A Tory is my best source of mainstream Conservative views, and I've been known to read City Unslicker and Newmania too.

On the left I like a bit of Dave's Part every now and then, Bob Piper is quite good, Ministry of Truth is the best of the lot.

My favourite blogger of all time is our mutual friend Mortimer. Can I stop now?
dry_valleys[info]dry_valleys on August 3rd, 2008 01:53 pm (UTC)
No, not stopping. Do you ever read A Very British Dude? He's good and quite often agreeable, even if his distinct streak of malice is offputting, and his loyalty to Cameron does start to grate.

Amongst New Labour loyalists, Hopi Sen is about as good as it gets.

And I read Guido's comments sometimes because I just get drawn to it by some twitching impulse...
SB[info]miss_s_b on August 3rd, 2008 05:14 pm (UTC)
I haven't looked at VBD, no. I shall, though.
(Anonymous) on August 3rd, 2008 05:21 pm (UTC)
Aye. What do you make of it? :D
SB[info]miss_s_b on August 3rd, 2008 05:36 pm (UTC)
It's quite well-written, if intentionally provocative.
dry_valleys[info]dry_valleys on August 3rd, 2008 05:36 pm (UTC)
The above were me :)
The Evil Atheist Your Mother Warned You About: Science[info]davegodfrey on August 3rd, 2008 01:54 pm (UTC)
I've often wondered why I argue with creationists. I know I'm not going to change their minds, but you don't do it for that, you do it to show the lurkers that their arguments are flawed, reasoning shoddy, and that they are systematically dishonest and ignorant.
dry_valleys[info]dry_valleys on August 3rd, 2008 01:57 pm (UTC)
I don't argue with creationists, or people like The Devil or AVBD who are so vitriolic that they're quite plainly never going to listen to an opposing view.

Though I have been known to wind up climate change "sceptics" and "libertarians", because they're so easily enraged. :)
The Evil Atheist Your Mother Warned You About: Dave Godfrey[info]davegodfrey on August 3rd, 2008 02:13 pm (UTC)
Creationists and climate change sceptics are often one and the same person. All you need is to find one who's an anti-vaxxer for the hat-trick.
dry_valleys[info]dry_valleys on August 3rd, 2008 02:17 pm (UTC)
No, the majority of "libertarians" are climate change "sceptics", and so are a lot of mainstream Tories. They are very ideologically driven. They accuse environmentalists of having an agenda, but they've been caught lying again & again to advance their own agenda (cf: Martin Durkin, whom the hypocrites have now disowned after supporting him at first).

I don't think they are real sceptics because a sceptic is someone who isn't predisposed to anything and lets the evidence convince him, which is exactly what these fuckers don't do.

I should point out that I am a firm believer in "no dialogue with c***s". I was amused to read it as the headline here:

http://www.notbored.org/no-dialogue.html

And yes, people like Mad Mel Phillips and clinically sane Peter Hitchens who are anti-MMR vaccine for no valid reason. Their irresponsibility disgusts me. I'll stop now, but I'll probably start within a few minutes :D
The Evil Atheist Your Mother Warned You About[info]davegodfrey on August 3rd, 2008 02:26 pm (UTC)
Mad Mel is also a supporter of Intelligent Design. I don't know her opinions on climate change.

Plenty of libertarian climate change "sceptics" aren't creationists, I grant you. But plenty of creationists are also global warming deniers.
dry_valleys[info]dry_valleys on August 3rd, 2008 02:44 pm (UTC)
I've got a word for them all, & it's contained within the link :)

Phillips, like the fragrant subject of the original post, is indeed a "sceptic" as well as her other credentials.

http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/?p=1468 (etc etc).

http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2008/04/18/iain-dale-science-abuse/

I think what the "sceptics" are trying to do is talk about it constantly and make us all weary so we can no longer be bothered to answer them back :)
Mat Bowles[info]matgb on August 3rd, 2008 10:00 pm (UTC)
people like The Devil ...so vitriolic that...plainly never going to listen to an opposing view

Um...

I used to write the odd piece at DK's, met him for drinks a few times, nice bloke. When sober.

And, um, I also changed his mind on something once, wasn't something important, but he was impressed I managed it—he likes reading the views of others and actually wants informed counterpoints, but the vitriol does put off most.

The rage is part of the DK persona, which is a bit of an act, it's worked well enough for him to go to top 5 poliblog by a bunch of different metrics. The trick to persuading him of something is to both know your stuff and put it in language he associates with (choice, freedom, etc) and remind him of the distinction between a Socialist and a socialist...

(He gave me a bloody devil once for a fisking of Neil Harding, who's always in need of another good kicking, might go give him another go at some point, he's been writing some crap recently at his new place)
dry_valleys[info]dry_valleys on August 4th, 2008 05:40 am (UTC)
I'm aware of all that, but I still might as well not bother. I think my stint as an Iain Dale's Dairy contributor proves that I'm not scared to argue my case, I just can't see the point. And as I explicitly said, the commentors on that site are way below the intellectual & moral letter of The Devil.

I think we agree more than we disagree on this matter, but you can understand why I've reached the conclusions I have.
doccy[info]doccy on August 3rd, 2008 01:54 pm (UTC)
Ooh! Wait! Just voted "no idea", and realised - is this the bloke from a previous post? *leaps heroically into SB archives* ...Iain Dale?
Olsen Bloom[info]andrewhickey on August 3rd, 2008 03:30 pm (UTC)
I read through about ten entries when I first got a Google Reader account, because he was on the recommended list as I was reading a lot of political blogs. He came across as being a tedious little tosspot who seemed far more interested in talking about his famous MP friends than in discussing anything approaching an actual idea. I just had another look to see if his blog's improved, and the most recent 'scoops' on there are:
A 'review' of the Dark Knight that is far less insightful even than the typical comic blog, that he didn't even write himself
Someone in Tunbridge Wells rode a bike while also making a phone call
A long list of numbers attached to various politicians with no explanation of what it means, but with his name prominently at the top
A link to someone else's story about blogging
Apparently he is also 'shaggable', but he can't spell 'sighted'
The Sun has mislabelled a picture
And he wants people to send in lists of the ten best political blogs

I could actually feel brain cells dying as I read through this mind-numbing self-promoting toss.
SB: Addams - true love[info]miss_s_b on August 3rd, 2008 05:13 pm (UTC)
Have I told you lately that I love you and that you are always right?

;)