Daisy Adair ([info]staplerinjello) wrote in [info]theoffice_us,
@ 2008-04-21 01:17:00
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JAM = realistic?
How realistic do you think the relationship between Jim and Pam is? I'm referring to the amazing chemistry that they have. The fact that they're best friends and get along so amazingly well. That he would do anything for her and vice versa.

In other words, do you think our beloved Office is instilling false hope in its viewers, or is the JAM relationship is an actual realistic possibility for all of us?

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[info]prettyinprint
2008-04-21 06:53 am UTC (link)
I think it's realistic, but not as common as it should be. I've got it after plenty of NOT having it. Too many people pull a Pam and stay with a Roy instead of waiting on a Jim. :)

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[info]buttrflykissses
2008-04-21 11:22 pm UTC (link)
i totally agree.

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[info]juteux
2008-04-21 07:01 am UTC (link)
It's a TV show...

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[info]webofglass
2008-04-21 07:04 am UTC (link)
iawtc, too.

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(no subject) - [info]feelthequiet, 2008-04-21 06:05 pm UTC

[info]falulatonks
2008-04-21 07:02 am UTC (link)
I think it's realistic, and believable, except we don't see that a lot in real life, I guess.

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[info]fourleaf
2008-04-21 07:03 am UTC (link)
My boyfriend and I have been together for years and we're basically best friends like that. We don't work together but we spend most of our time together, live together, and are constantly cracking jokes and I'm fairly certain he'd do anything for me. I think it's realistic.

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[info]myprettycabinet
2008-04-21 12:53 pm UTC (link)
Ditto.

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[info]webofglass
2008-04-21 07:04 am UTC (link)
It's not realistic to me at all because the entire relationship just feels very forced. Just because two people are fantastic friends doesn't always mean that they should get in a relationship.

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[info]detache
2008-04-21 06:54 pm UTC (link)
I agree!

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[info]keiraism
2008-04-21 07:04 am UTC (link)

I don't think it's instilling false hope in its viewers. It plays out everybody as people that we all know and have probably met. There's the unknowingly obnoxious Michael in all our lives. The ridiculously uptight Angela. The friend that's a girl that's always sweet and sometimes gets walked on like Pam. I think the only reason it seems like false hope is because there are too few Jims out there. But they are out there.

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[info]jessicabrin
2008-04-21 07:06 am UTC (link)
I definitely think it can happen, but I also think that it's possible to have a "Jim" or "Pam" and to be best friends and have that chemistry, but nothing ever comes of it...

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[info]dramaturgy
2008-04-21 07:35 am UTC (link)
My expectations for romance were ruined a long time before I started watching the show, although I have to say that Jim Halpert is not curing me. XD

So what if it isn't 10000000000000% realistic? It's a nice change from other shows where they're constantly jerking you around on who is going to get together and who is breaking up this week. *cough*Grey'sAnatomy*cough*

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[info]ladyanneboleyn
2008-04-21 04:01 pm UTC (link)
IAWTC so much.

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[info]hey__itsrachel
2008-04-21 07:38 am UTC (link)
hmm. I dunno. I know that personally, i would HATE to work with my SO.

Of course, if my SO was Jim Halpert, I may have a different opinion. (and if my life had writers, stylists, editors, etc. haha)

Great question!

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[info]leontyne
2008-04-21 08:32 am UTC (link)
Ooh, this is actually a fun little inquiry - I the OP should edit her post to ask about working with your SO and if that would effect your picture-perfect relationship.

Personally, I think it would have its ups and downs - I love my guy's "on" personality and would love to get to see him during the day, but I think it could get very awkward if your supervisors or co-workers weren't professional enough to separate their feelings about one person from their feelings about the other. Like, if one person is reprimanded or quits, I think it would be human nature to hold it against the other person's partner, even if you're not doing it intentionally.

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(no subject) - [info]strangelittlex, 2008-04-21 04:23 pm UTC

[info]yourheartmakes
2008-04-21 07:40 am UTC (link)
Best friends can make great couples. Jam doesn't feel realistic because I don't really feel like I know anyone that perfect in real life. But hey, they're cute so I don't mind watching.

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[info]auldlang_syne
2008-04-21 07:43 am UTC (link)
There has never been, as I believe someone once said, anything false about hope.

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[info]bexablancas
2008-04-21 07:46 am UTC (link)
:)

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[info]shlupquack
2008-04-21 08:23 am UTC (link)
I'd like to think my relationship with my husband is reasonably Jam-ish. They're in their honeymoon phase, to be sure, but I have no qualms with how the relationship is portrayed.

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[info]leontyne
2008-04-21 08:27 am UTC (link)
Yeah, I'm gonna be another one of those chiming in about her great relationship, so everybody try not to gag at me. My guy and I have been the best of friends and also crazy devoted to each other for many, many years - it's possible to have that joking, poking fun, teasing, one-upping, competitive friendship and also be the entire world to each other. It's probably rare, though, but I love that Jim and Pam have it. My relationship isn't perfect - I don't think any people can ever NEVER disagree or fight or occasionally break each other's hearts - but it's definitely possible to be close. :)

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[info]infinityshark
2008-04-21 08:52 am UTC (link)
Yep. Me and my friend Jen are incredibly close friends (we met at work), and we've more or less proven that we'd do anything for each other.

...no, we're not dating.

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[info]lilbabiangel888
2008-04-21 09:04 am UTC (link)
I definitely don't think the Jam relationship is realistic but isn't it meant to seem that way? They're not perfect people but together they seem so completely perfect. It draws us in because we all long for a Jim or a Pam, a perfect partner in crime and companion. The show's creators probably are aware of this and also aware that we wouldn't be as enchanted as we are with Jam if they were bickering and having issues like a normal couple. I mean, I'm sure they also have issues but they're just not the focus of the relationship. The main point is that they just work so well together. Jim knew that right away, hence the ring. I guess you could say we all aspire to have that Jim/Pam relationship but it probably isn't very attainable.

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[info]_romaschka_
2008-04-21 09:30 am UTC (link)
like in Friends, the creators made the Monica/Chandler relationship perfect because they already had a "normal" couple Ross/Rachel who were fighting all the time :)

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(no subject) - [info]lilbabiangel888, 2008-04-21 09:36 am UTC

[info]_romaschka_
2008-04-21 09:27 am UTC (link)
i think soon they will start to fight or have disagreemnet because they are starting to be boring in their perfection and its never good for a tv show :)
but i believe such relationship could be realistic
i have such now but we are together only 3 months, even not together really because he is in france, i am in russia :(

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[info]ashley_pie
2008-04-21 10:22 am UTC (link)
I think that their relationship is a lot more realistic than Hollywood movies, especially with their background (she was engaged, then learned where her heart truly is). People just don't fall into another person's lap ye' know!

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[info]miss_tee
2008-04-21 10:23 am UTC (link)
Haha I think it's realistic. It's pretty much the relationship that my husband and I have. Minus the drama of when they unrequitedly wanted each other though.

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[info]annaed884
2008-04-21 10:36 am UTC (link)
I think their relationship is very realistic. My uncle and his wife remind me of them (except they don't work together). I'm sure there are other couples like them as well.

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[info]luvs_chicago
2008-04-21 10:49 am UTC (link)
My husband is the Jim to my Pam. We don't do pranks or anything like that, and we're not together constantly, but we're best friends, and I love him more than anyone.

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[info]tvini
2008-04-21 12:07 pm UTC (link)
Ditto that. 14 years of marriage and going strong.

If the OP is asking if you can get along easily with someone, joke and spark, and have the romance along with it, then yes. Absolutely you can.

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(no subject) - [info]agentcocokitten, 2008-04-21 04:13 pm UTC

[info]strawberrymelon
2008-04-21 11:01 am UTC (link)
no more realistic/unrealistic than a lot of other shows and movies. I've know people like Jim/Pam and people like Derek/Meredith. I think it suggests that to all the Pams out there with their Roys, they can do better, but whats wrong with that?

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[info]brbsb
2008-04-21 12:02 pm UTC (link)
I think a relationship like this CAN happen, but I don't think it's too likely. The friendship with sexual tension I can definitely relate to (also with a co-worker haha), but I think it is very, very unlikely that the moving on to dating thing (however long it took for that to happen) would be such a smooth, seamless transition.

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[info]inkyoctopus
2008-04-21 12:03 pm UTC (link)
My fiance is my best friend and we'd do anything for each other--and we are constantly taking the piss out of each other :-)

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[info]twirlinggrace
2008-04-21 01:27 pm UTC (link)
I think it's absolutely realistic, but it's not common. My best friend and I are the same exact way. We've worked at a law firm for two years and have been the only two employees under the age of 25. We shared an office together and seriously, we never got any work done we were too busy laughing and talking and joking around. We play pranks on everyone in the office like it's our job and do things outside of work. We even have the season two sexual tension... So yeah, I think it's possible. EVERYONE calls he and I Jim and Pam because our relationship mimics theirs sooooo much. We even call each other J&P.

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[info]melroseplace
2008-04-21 01:28 pm UTC (link)
I have a Jam-like relationship prior to them dating. only instead of me having a Roy, he has a gf :( haha who knows what will happen in the future though

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[info]little_linds
2008-04-21 01:38 pm UTC (link)
I had this same thing, and then I moved to NY (somewhat reminiscent to Jim leaving Scranton) but haven't moved back :/ He's engaged and even though we had an amazing friendship, I wasn't going to waste my time. His relationship with his fiance is also reminiscent of Pam/Roy in that everyone knows, inluding him, that they should not be together. Alright, I'm done rambling.

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