US Airways Proud! ([info]pradagirl) wrote in [info]thedailyshow,
@ 2004-11-04 16:39:00
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An Open Letter To the Red States
I am writing this letter to the people in the red states in the middle of
the country -- the people who voted for George W. Bush. I am writing this
letter because I don't think we know each other.

So I'll make an introduction. I am a New Yorker who voted for John Kerry.
I used to live in California, and if I still lived there, I would vote for
Kerry. I used to live in Washington, DC, and if I still lived there, I
would vote for Kerry. Kerry won in all three of those regions.

Maybe you want to know more about me. Or maybe not; maybe you think you
know me already. You think I am some anti-American anarchist because I
dislike George W. Bush. You think that I am immoral and anti-family,
because I support women's reproductive freedom and gay rights. You think
that I am dangerous, and even evil, because I do not abide by your religious
beliefs.

Maybe you are content to think that, to write me off as a "liberal" -- the
dreaded "L" word -- and rejoice that your candidate has triumphed over evil,
immoral, anti-American, anti-family people like me. But maybe you are still
curious. So here goes: this is who I am.

I am a New Yorker. I was here, in my apartment downtown, on September 11th.
I watched the Towers burn from the roof of my building. I went inside so
that I couldn't see them when they fell. I had friends who were inside. I
have a friend who still has nightmares about watching people jump and fall
from the Towers. He will never be the same. How many people like him do
you know? People that can't sit in a restaurant without plotting an escape
route, in case it blows up?


I am a worker. I work across the street from the Citigroup Center, which
the government told us is a "target" of terrorism. Later, we found out they
were relaying very old information, but it was already too late. They had
given me bad dreams again. The subway stop near my office was crowded with
bomb-sniffing dogs, policemen in heavy protective gear, soldiers. Now,
every time I enter or exit my office, all of my possessions are X-rayed to
make sure I don't have any weapons. How often are you stopped by a soldier
with a bomb-sniffing dog outside your office?

I am a neighbor. I have a neighbor who is a 9/11 widow. She has two
children. My husband does odd jobs for her now, like building bookshelves.
Things her husband should do. He uses her husband's tools, and the two
little girls tell him, "Those are our daddy's tools." How many 9/11 widows
and orphans do you know? How often do you fill in for their dead loved
ones?

I am a taxpayer. I worked my butt off to get where I did, and so did my
parents. My parents saved and borrowed and sent me to college. I worked my
way through graduate school. I won a full tuition scholarship to law
school. All for the privilege of working 2,600 hours last year. That works
out to a 50 hour week, every week, without any vacation days at all. I get
to work by 9 am and rarely leave before 9 pm. I eat dinner at my office
much more often than I eat dinner at home. My husband and I paid over
$70,000 in federal income tax last year. At some point in the future, we
will have to pay much more -- once this country faces its deficit and the
impossible burden of Social Security. In fact, the areas of the country
that supported Kerry -- New York, California, Illinois, Massachusetts --
they are the financial centers of the nation. They are the tax base of this
country. How much did you pay, Kansas? How much did you contribute to this
government you support, Alabama? How much of this war in Iraq did you pay
for?

I am a liberal. The funny part is, liberals have this reputation for living
in Never-Neverland, being idealists, not being sensible. But let me tell
you how I see the world: I see America as one nation in a world of nations.
Therefore, I think we should try to get along with other nations. I see
that gay people exist. Therefore, I think they should be allowed to exist,
and be treated the same as other people. I see ways in which women are not
allowed to control their own bodies. Therefore, I think we should give
women more control over their bodies. I see that people have awful
diseases. Therefore, I think we should enable scientists to try to cure
them. I see that we have a Constitution. Therefore, I think it should be
upheld. I see that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
Therefore, I think that Iraq was not an imminent danger to me. It seems so
pragmatic to me. How do you see the world? Do you really think voting
against gay marriage will keep people from being gay? Would you really
prefer that people continue to die from Parkinson's disease? Do you really
not care about the Constitutional rights of political detainees? Would you
really have supported the war if you knew the truth, or would you have
wanted to spend more of our money on health care, job training, terrorism
preparedness?

I am an American. I have an American flag flying outside my home. I love
my home more than anything. I love that I grew up right outside New York
City. I first went to the Statue of Liberty with my 5th grade class, and my
mom and dad took me to the Empire State Building when I was 8. I love
taking the subway to Yankee Stadium. I loved living in Washington DC and
going on dates to the Lincoln Memorial. It is because I love this country
so much that I argue with my political opponents as much I do.

I am not safe. I never feel safe. My in-laws live in a small town in Ohio,
and that town has received more federal funding, per capita, for terrorism
preparedness than New York City has. I take subways and buses every day. I
work in a skyscraper across the street from a "target." I have emergency
supplies and a spare pair of sneakers in my desk, in case somethng happens
while I'm at work. Do you? How many times a month do you worry that your
subway is going to blow up? When you hear sirens on the street, do you run
to the window to make sure everything is okay? When you hear an airplane,
do you flinch? Do you dread beautiful, blue-skied September days? I don't
know a single New Yorker who doesn't spend the month of September on
tip-toes, superstitiously praying for rain so we don't have to relive that
beautiful, blue-skied day.

I am lonely. I feel that we, as a nation, have alienated all our friends
and further provoked our enemies. I feel unprotected. Most of all I feel
alienated from my fellow citizens, because I don't understand what you are
thinking. You voted for a man who started a war in Iraq for no reason,
against the wishes of the entire world. You voted for a man whose lack of
foresight and inability to plan has led to massive insurgencies in Iraq,
where weapons are disappearing into the hands of terrorists. You voted for
a man who let Osama Bin Laden escape into the hills of Afghanistan so that
he could start that war in Iraq. You voted for a man who doesn't want to
let people love who they want to love; doesn't want to let doctors cure
their patients; doesn't want to let women rule their destinies. I don't
understand why you voted for this man. For me, it is not enough that he is
personable; it is not enough that he seems like one of the guys. Why did
you vote for him? Why did you elect a man that lied to us in order to
convince us to go to war? (Ten years ago you were incensed when our
president lied about his sex life; you thought it was an impeachable
offense.) Why did you elect a leader who thinks that strength cannot
include diplomacy or international cooperaton? Why did you elect a man who
did nothing except run away and hide on September 11?

Most of all, I am terrified. I mean daily, I am afraid that I will not
survive this. I am afraid that I will lose my husband, that I will never
have children, that I will never grow old and watch the sunset in a backyard
of my own. I am afraid that my career -- which should end with a triumphant
and good-natured roast at a retirement party in 2035 -- will be cut short by
an attack on me and my colleagues, as we sit sending emails and making phone
calls one ordinary afternoon. Is your life at stake? Are you terrified?

I don't think you are. I don't think you realize what you have done. And
if anything happens to me or the people I love, I blame you. I wanted you
to know that.



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[info]selphish
2004-11-04 09:45 pm UTC (link)
Well-said.

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[info]fenriss
2004-11-04 09:49 pm UTC (link)
Wow. Beautiful. Permission to link, please?

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[info]pradagirl
2004-11-04 09:51 pm UTC (link)
Please pass it on...

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(no subject) - [info]gillieweed, 2004-11-05 01:21 am UTC

[info]sockkpuppett
2004-11-04 09:52 pm UTC (link)
Nice post, BUT I'm getting really tired of being grouped in with everyone in the "red states who voted for Bush." I live in a red state. I didn't vote for Bush. I know many people who live in red states who didn't vote for Bush. In my state? 41% of the people who live here didn't vote for Bush.

My suggestion is that you take a look over HERE and check out how red the country *really* is.

Dammit. [/rant]

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[info]wickedprincess3
2004-11-04 09:54 pm UTC (link)
What you said. Live in a red state, also liberal, almost entire family voted Kerry.

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(no subject) - [info]fenriss, 2004-11-04 09:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sockkpuppett, 2004-11-04 10:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pradagirl, 2004-11-04 10:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]maxdrillings, 2004-11-04 10:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]fenriss, 2004-11-05 12:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]maxdrillings, 2004-11-05 02:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hellocalamity, 2004-11-05 01:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]luna_k, 2004-11-05 02:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]j_buns, 2004-11-05 06:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gillieweed, 2004-11-05 01:24 am UTC
wonderful entry
[info]threexfives
2004-11-04 09:53 pm UTC (link)
oh wow.You have my support. I'm 100% with you...all the way down here in Red-as-hell Alabama.

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Re: wonderful entry
[info]fenriss
2004-11-04 10:03 pm UTC (link)
Gods bless you! What a hard path you walk! :)

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Re: wonderful entry - [info]threexfives, 2004-11-04 10:09 pm UTC
Re: wonderful entry - [info]eclipsis, 2004-11-04 11:01 pm UTC

[info]lexslave
2004-11-04 09:54 pm UTC (link)
here, here! VERY well done. i haven't hit the nice stage yet, i'm still in FURIOUS mode. and i live in kentucky. unfortunatly, a red (neck) state. but *I* voted for Kerry. *I* voted for a fresh start, and an attempt at actually healing our nation. *I* voted for tolerence and understanding. *I* voted for compassion for ALL not for just some. *hugs*

and no, they have NO idea what they have done.

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[info]pussybang
2004-11-04 10:00 pm UTC (link)

I know I'm going to get flamed and have people angry with what I'm about to say, but reading your letter struck me.

I am sorry. Sorry that New York went through what it did and I cannot imagine what those who live there went through and what they are still going through.

I'm a native Texan, a state which carried Bush by over 50% Does that make me the evil/wrong person in your letter? I voted Kerry. I voted Kerry knowing that my voice wouldn't be heard. My only consolation was that my county was 50/49 (B/K). In Texas that was a feet, especially in an area so closely Republican.

I think that the main "gripe" of those against Bush should not be aganist the states that went Bush but try looking at the evangelical voters who came out of the woodworks. Kerry had no chance when the religious fanatics took hold.

This isn't meant in a cruel way, but not all of us in the red states support the way we went. Some of us -- many of us -- were greatly devastated by the election results. I know what the world thinks of us. I've been told more times than I can count what my country looks like to the world. International friends and relatives have kept telling me what is wrong with our presidency. I know what is a probable outcome from this election.

But because I'm a red state doesn't mean that I am immune to what the rest of the country sees me as and what the rest of the world sees me as. No matter what from here on out I'm from a red state. It doesn't matter that I voted Kerry, I'm known as a Texan and that is all people hear.

Again, don't take this the wrong way, I just wanted to say that there is more than red and blue.

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[info]pradagirl
2004-11-04 10:02 pm UTC (link)
Obviously its not in reference to you...I wish you guys would use some common sense.

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(no subject) - [info]pussybang, 2004-11-04 10:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]threexfives, 2004-11-04 10:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pussybang, 2004-11-04 10:20 pm UTC
let me offer my opinion - [info]muhmuhmatt, 2004-11-04 10:47 pm UTC
Re: let me offer my opinion - [info]pussybang, 2004-11-05 03:35 am UTC
Re: let me offer my opinion - [info]muhmuhmatt, 2004-11-05 04:35 am UTC
Re: let me offer my opinion - [info]gillieweed, 2004-11-05 02:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]fenriss, 2004-11-04 10:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pussybang, 2004-11-04 10:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]threexfives, 2004-11-04 10:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pussybang, 2004-11-04 10:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]drivingrl, 2004-11-04 10:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-11-10 08:14 pm UTC

[info]roz_mcclure
2004-11-04 10:07 pm UTC (link)
You know, I'm also pretty sick of all this anti-red-state-ism. "Us vs. them" is a bad idea no matter who's perpetuating it. We need to stop pointing fingers and promoting schisms, and start working together. All of us. Everyone who voted is an American, and every one of us needs to do what we can to fix things. Calling names and martyring ourselves on the cross of "liberalism" is doing nothing but bad.

Stop hurting America.

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[info]thisficklemob
2004-11-04 11:58 pm UTC (link)
Well, when I read I am writing this letter to the people in the red states in the middle of
the country -- the people who voted for George W. Bush.
, I thought it was pretty clear that she was writing to the people in the "red" states who did vote for Bush - that subset of people. Not people who live in "red" states who voted for Kerry, or people in "blue" states who voted for Bush. Not because they don't exist, but because her words are specifically addressed to those who are less in harm's way than she is, but yet voted, she thinks, based on fear.

I agree that we do need to work on fixing things, and I'm willing to work with anyone with whom I have common cause, but I refuse to make or answer any calls for unity. Why? Because it's the same thing Bush said after taking office in 2001, when he went on to nominate arch-conservatives to cabinet positions, gut environmental standards, and restore the global gag order. The Democrats went along with all of it, and if they made any fuss, they were accused of not showing bipartisan spirit. The words "bipartisan cooperation" meant, and pardon my lewdness, "bend over and take it up the ass without lube, and like it, bitch." After 9-11, Bush shamelessly exploited our national unity to pass more tax cuts for the rich, the Patriot Act (which consisted mostly of the FBI's wishlist of civil liberties-defying powers that they had long before 9-11, and which experts admit would not have stopped 9-11), and pretty much everything else he wanted.

I'm sorry, I'm not going to be that concilliatory Democrat. Eleven states just passed measures to deny people like my mother basic human rights. I don't blame the people who voted against those measures, but I refuse to make nice with the people who are persecuting us. Bush has done nothing to help me, and much to harm me, in his first four years. I may not have any say in what he does, but I'm not going to shut up and be nice while he shits all over everyone (even those who voted for him) and every American ideal I care about.

It is us-versus-them. It shouldn't be, but it just is. Democrats have lost fight after fight by being concilliatory, by wanting to end the fighting, while Republicans use the lulls to push their agenda. I am not angry with you, but I am angry with those who dare affect shock and hurt when I dare push back.

Unite? Yeah, I'll unite, name the place, with the unions and the gays and the blacks and the poor, with New Yorkers and South Carolinans, with Christians and Muslims, but I will not shake the hand that stabs me. Sorry.

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(no subject) - [info]pradagirl, 2004-11-05 02:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]queenofdenile, 2004-11-28 05:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pradagirl, 2004-11-05 02:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]robertprior, 2004-11-05 12:49 am UTC
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[info]tinderboxheart
2004-11-04 10:14 pm UTC (link)
i really enjoyed this, thank you for sharing. i am from a red state (NC) and i voted kerry, it's insane, the tension yesterday in the air, the feeling of it the whole us/them - frightened the hell out of me. there were people holding tail gate parties in the parking lot of the church where we voted, all pro bush, drinking bud light and eating hot dogs, i mean, what the fuck? *shrugs* i don't think there is a point to that, it just amazed the hell out of me, or the older woman beside me wondering if she had to vote for the other candidiates "well i don't watch tv or read the newspapers i just want to vote for bush" .... i realized then that we were all fucked.

i hate how caring about another human being makes a person a liberal.

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[info]atrain14
2004-11-04 10:14 pm UTC (link)
This is beautiful, well-spoken, and SO true. I live 12 miles from Manhattan, and I watched the Towers fall with my own eyes. I can relate to this very well. I'm going to link this, if that's ok.

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[info]pradagirl
2004-11-04 10:22 pm UTC (link)
Please feel free to repost and link if you would like.

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(no subject) - [info]gillieweed, 2004-11-05 02:37 pm UTC

[info]midnightbex
2004-11-04 10:15 pm UTC (link)
*standing ovation*

I understand that so completely. I'm not from New York, I wasn't there on that fateful September day, but I remember what happened here well. I live in Illinois, about 45 minutes outside of Chicago. I remember looking up into our clear blue sky and seeing the fighter jets flying overhead. I remember hearing that not only had many of the buildings in Chicago possibly been targeted, but that the Federal government feared Fermi Lab, the nearby nuclear research facility, would be hit. I live 10 miles from there, the result of it being blown to pieces would make Charnobul pale in comparison. People in those red states can't possibly understand the fear that living in a city post 9/11 means. Here its tough, here its something I think of daily. I can only imagine what its like in NY.

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[info]_cellar_dweller
2004-11-05 04:51 am UTC (link)
Sorry, I accidentally posted as a reply to you earlier when I meant to create a new general post. I wasn't addressing you. Sowwyboutthat....;-)

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(no subject) - [info]midnightbex, 2004-11-05 03:14 pm UTC
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[info]baka_tenshi
2004-11-04 10:16 pm UTC (link)
I can't properly express how much I feel for you. Sure, I never had lost anyone, or known anyone, from 9/11. But I do know where you're coming from -- especially in a sense of war. I have an immdiate family member who is in 4th ID and have came back safely from Iraq. ...But I don't want her to leave again.


I understand that you don't mean everyone in the red state. Just .. The ones who voted for Bush. :) I'm one year too young, in the redneck state of Texas. It totally crushed me when I realized that, and I couldn't make a difference in the election.

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[info]digby_bear
2004-11-04 10:20 pm UTC (link)
"You voted for a man who let Osama Bin Laden escape into the hills of Afghanistan so that he could start that war in Iraq." A man that allowed his administration to give bin Laden's family the first tickets out of here once planes started flying again after 9/11.

A lot of people seem to be a little offended by the fact that you grouped them together in with the people who voted for Bush just because the states are red. It wasn't a landslide election; Bush won by a very small margin. Everyone should just keep it in mind; we all know that Bush supporters aren't the only ones living in the states that he won. That's not directed at you, because I know what you meant in your letter, but everyone else got all up in arms about it... that's my take on it, at least.

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[info]_cellar_dweller
2004-11-04 10:25 pm UTC (link)
To Pradagirl: Incredibly well written. I don't think there's a shred of opinion in there I don't wholeheartedly agree with. I'm saving this one to disk to let many others read it. Thank you for writing this.

To the people complaining: read what she writes before you comment. She is addressing the people in the red states who voted for Bush. If you live in a red state but didn't vote for Bush, she is obviously not addressing you is she? It's really not rocket science.

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[info]pradagirl
2004-11-05 04:22 pm UTC (link)
I just had to say I LOVE YOUR icon!!

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[info]mezdeathhead
2004-11-04 10:30 pm UTC (link)
do you mind if i email this letter to a few people? who should i credit if i can?

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[info]pradagirl
2004-11-04 10:35 pm UTC (link)
yes please email it to everyone you know...

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[info]buttonmyspatz
2004-11-04 10:47 pm UTC (link)
well you pretty much summed up exactly how i feel. only difference is that I am a native new york city girl. born and raised in the heart of brooklyn, college in manhattan. never lived anywhere else in my 24 years alive. i know exactly what you mean, whereas a lot of other people here do not. we as new yorkers feel alienated. we feel like the rest of the country hates us, and uses 9/11 for their own benefit. i'm not saying anyone in particular, but that seems to be the concensous here.

its no secret your average AVERAGE so no one get offended! walmart goin, gun totin, bible lovin american thinks new yorkers and californians are "weird liberal hippie freaks" and they simply do not like us. yet, when asked why they love bush, many say "he keeps us safe" sorry but nobody is going to blow up your farm. the 3 states that have a higher possibity of terrorist attack are NY, CA, DC all overwhelmingly voted for kerry. doesnt that tell you guys something? we are the ones who are going to face attack most likely, and its real to us. i cant explain that feeling, and i'm sorry if people dont believe me, or understand that but its true. all you have to do is use some common sense to realize no, we are not safe. i for one feel like a sitting duck. anything can happen at any moment. nobody can stop someone from strapping amo to their chest and blowing up a building or a subway or whatever. you cant control that by force. the only way is to get to the root of the problem! bush doesnt understand that he officially united the muslim world against us, and more dangerously, he united the fanatics against us too.

point is, i can relate to this person who is posting, more so than a lot of people who commented. you may not like it, but the general atmosphere here is not good. we feel used, cheated and decieved. most of all used. bush is using our deaths and our suffering so he can attack a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 in the first place, they said it themselves, but again he is using the general americans ignorance as a tool. do you know what a rotten feelign that is? 9/11 affected all americans i know, and everyone should feel decieved and used by them.

we dont understand why most of america would vote opposite to how we voted, when supposedly everyone was supposed to come together after 9/11 as one country, yet we find ourselves completley divided. we as new yorkers feel betrayed somehow by the majority of the country who is not with us. i was watching a local news channel earlier and what i said is the basic feeling of most new yorkers right now. they then interviewed a group of tourists from georgia and they were elated that bush won, beating it in our face. how dare you come to a state that has been so bruised by 9/11 and completley disrespect it. thats how we feel and there really is nothing anyone can say to make us feel better about things.

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[info]pradagirl
2004-11-04 10:53 pm UTC (link)
I love you! I love you! I love you!

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(no subject) - [info]buttonmyspatz, 2004-11-04 10:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pradagirl, 2004-11-04 11:00 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]pradagirl, 2004-11-05 12:10 am UTC
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[info]unwoman
2004-11-04 11:13 pm UTC (link)
That brought tears to my eyes. Please send that in to some newspapers, OK?

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[info]newredshoes
2004-11-05 12:10 am UTC (link)
Thank you. It is unfathomable to me how anyone, sane, logical or otherwise, could choose to keep this man and his administration in power. It's hard to "let the healing begin" when so much of what Bush stands for is completely repugnant and vile to me.

I'm making a wall outside my dorm room of essays just like this: this one will be posted where my Republican housemates can see it.

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[info]pradagirl
2004-11-05 12:13 am UTC (link)
Healing can't start until people agree that this country is sick to the core.
Enough talk about healing and unity.
Its time to address what's wrong...until that time comes we're a nation divided.

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[info]wanderingrogue
2004-11-05 12:26 am UTC (link)
Very well written. I'm an Oklahoma girl who voted for Kerry. I just watched the attacks on TV but an acquaintance of mine lost a brother at the WTC that day. She's one of the strongest people I've ever known. I love my brother. I cannot begin to imagine.

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[info]gracefulreverie
2004-11-05 12:31 am UTC (link)
Beautifully written. Amazing.

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[info]sameday
2004-11-05 12:42 am UTC (link)
beautiful post. thank you.. have you considered sending it to michael moore, kerry or bush? maybe bush could use another attempt at enlightenment. it hurts to know that these states will not be effected by what they've done nearly as much as us blue states, who suffer the repercussions of it. i can see by some of the reactions, however, that the way we are veiwing these red states is pretty much the same as the way all of america is viewed by the world... we may all look like a bunch of ignorant bible-belters from far away, but when you look closer you see all the people within that really tried to make a change. i think that the red state people who voted for kerry will most likely be the first to move away from it all... maybe to one of the coasts, or maybe out of the country. anyway, i wnat to thank you again for posting this because i gave me a lot of insight into your experience.. knowing you live with that everyday. i'm a lesbian and i took the 11 state's votes personally. it's a long road ahead for all of us that realize we need change.

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[info]queen_of_kithia
2004-11-05 12:50 am UTC (link)
I'm a liberal from South Dakota. I'm not happy with my state right now. I love my state, more than I love my country, but I'm not happy with it. Were I it's parent, I would send it to the corner for I time-out. Were I its teacher, I would make it write, "I must not vote for Bush" 300 times on the blackboard.

So on behalf of my state, that I love even though I am profoundly angry at it, I am sorry.

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[info]j_buns
2004-11-05 07:00 am UTC (link)
seconded... except i'm from texas.

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[info]aircrash
2004-11-05 02:08 am UTC (link)
oi. not everyone who lives in a red state voted for bush. i do [nebraska] &i didn't [voted for kerry, thankyouverymuch]. i can't help it that the other two thirds of this farking state is wholly composed of idiots.

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[info]pradagirl
2004-11-05 02:14 am UTC (link)
Oy Gevalt!
I'm not talking about you...If you go back and read it you will see I say "The People That Voted for George Bush"

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(no subject) - [info]thisficklemob, 2004-11-05 02:46 am UTC
i voted for bush, please be open minded
(Anonymous)
2004-11-05 02:24 am UTC (link)
I voted for George W. Bush. I campaigned for him. I like him, I support him and I believe in him. You people preach open-mindedness and being peaceful with one another. Yet you blame us for the country's destruction. People who are liberals have called me a fascist. I've been told republicans are racist. Yet it was a Republican who freed the slaves. It was a Republican who ended the reign of Russian terror. Stop calling us Nazis and we'll stop calling you traitors.

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Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded
[info]pradagirl
2004-11-05 02:28 am UTC (link)
Why are you anonymous...show yourself...otherwise you're full of shit.

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Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]jediseraph797, 2004-11-05 03:12 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]gillieweed, 2004-11-05 02:42 pm UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]jediseraph797, 2004-11-12 09:41 pm UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - (Anonymous), 2004-11-21 07:52 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]frandroid, 2004-11-05 02:46 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]thisficklemob, 2004-11-05 03:11 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]jediseraph797, 2004-11-05 03:16 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]jediseraph797, 2004-11-05 03:20 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]thisficklemob, 2004-11-05 03:31 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]pradagirl, 2004-11-05 03:42 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]pradagirl, 2004-11-05 03:23 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]jediseraph797, 2004-11-05 03:24 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]jediseraph797, 2004-11-05 03:25 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]jediseraph797, 2004-11-05 03:28 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]twister10, 2004-11-05 07:22 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]silverphoenix, 2004-11-05 09:48 am UTC
Re: new thought - (Anonymous), 2004-11-05 03:29 am UTC
Re: new thought - [info]pradagirl, 2004-11-05 03:36 am UTC
Re: new thought - [info]jediseraph797, 2004-11-05 03:39 am UTC
Re: new thought - [info]thisficklemob, 2004-11-05 03:48 am UTC
Re: new thought - [info]sketchedbody, 2004-11-13 04:27 pm UTC
Re: new thought - [info]thisficklemob, 2004-11-05 03:39 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]thisficklemob, 2004-11-05 03:34 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]thisficklemob, 2004-11-05 03:30 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]jediseraph797, 2004-11-05 03:35 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]pradagirl, 2004-11-05 03:39 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]jediseraph797, 2004-11-05 03:40 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]pradagirl, 2004-11-05 03:43 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]djmedieval, 2004-11-06 03:05 pm UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]thisficklemob, 2004-11-05 03:45 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]jediseraph797, 2004-11-05 03:49 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]thisficklemob, 2004-11-05 04:00 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]wanderingrogue, 2004-11-05 04:47 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]gillieweed, 2004-11-05 02:52 pm UTC
Please read this and respond - [info]pradagirl, 2004-11-05 03:55 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]twister10, 2004-11-05 07:31 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]wanderingrogue, 2004-11-05 04:52 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]red_pill_bob, 2004-11-14 03:24 pm UTC
I smell a troll - [info]twister10, 2004-11-05 07:35 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]childings, 2004-11-06 06:52 am UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]keeblered, 2004-11-10 04:15 pm UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]red_pill_bob, 2004-11-14 03:30 pm UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]red_pill_bob, 2004-11-14 03:53 pm UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]keeblered, 2004-11-15 03:39 pm UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]keeblered, 2004-11-15 03:34 pm UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - (Anonymous), 2004-11-15 05:43 pm UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - [info]red_pill_bob, 2004-11-15 09:50 pm UTC
Re: i voted for bush, please be open minded - (Anonymous), 2004-11-15 05:35 pm UTC

[info]nerdanel_hf
2004-11-05 02:37 am UTC (link)
Very powerful and wonderfully written. I was living in Massachusetts at the time, but when I saw the Pentagon burning all I could think of was my aunt in D.C. (she was fine, thank goodness). I really think you should try to get this out there. It offers a perspective not many people have seen before. Currently I live in Minnesota (thanks to my dad's job being outsourced) which thankfully went blue, but the Evangelical influence is getting stronger.

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[info]phoopie1
2004-11-05 03:46 am UTC (link)
Very articulate... it's good to know there are other New Yorkers posting these kinds of thoughts on the web. You wouldn't believe how many people forget.

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