My friend and I were on aim, having a conversation (aka I caplocked YOU KNOW WHAT PISSES ME OFF?) about stupid, shitty movies. AKA, Superbad, The Hangover, Mr Woodcock, Knocked Up, 40 Year Old Virgin, Pinapple Express, or really anything that has the words "bromance" in it, or has Jonah Hill as a character. These are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head.
alannanite: YOU KNOW WHAT PISSES ME OFF
cohensk: : WHAT
alannanite: SEXIST, BULLSHIT, RAPE-IS-FUN, ALL BOYS ARE IMMATURE DUMBASSES, ALL WOMEN ARE UPTIGHT BITCHES MOVIES
alannanite: FOR REAL
alannanite: AND THEN I BECOME A BITCH FOR NOT LIKING THEM
If someone asks me if I like Superbad, because that's always the movie, I always respond, "No, I don't watch shitty movies." Is it a mean response? Yes. But I don't feel like going into every single fucking thing that pisses me off about these movies- the racism, the sexism, the fat hating, the male chauvinism, the rape jokes, the
bullshit. To say I hate it would not do it justice. I watch those movies, and I feel disgust, with the faintest hint of pity.
But to say as much makes the bitch, the girl with no humor. Obviously I'm just looking to ruin everyone elses fun, because I don't find a) b) and c) funny. Everyone else finds it funny, so I must be just a humorless bitch, right?
alannanite: I THINK THE REASON THESE SHITTY TYPES OF THINGS COME OUT IS TO KEEP EVERYONE STUPID
alannanite: LIKE, LEGIT
cohensk: : so they are distracted and don't get involved in real actual business or question the government or think or anything
cohensk: : i agree
alannanite: like, i know that people that like superbad are not going to be running our country, or anything important
alannanite: i seriously think that the masses are brainwashed by the media, and the media does so by making them douchbags
alannanite: think about it: if a movie like superbad says rape is a okay, what are people going to do?
alannanite: i know it sounds stupid, but that gives people excuses to rape. flat out straight out.
cohensk: : it takes away the seriousness of it
alannanite: it makes society less moral as a whole- and that's something, coming from me, because you know how much I ~love~ when we talk about society being "moral"- and it makes very serious things into jokes
alannanite: if a movie like the hangover says that all women are uptight bitches (the bride got pissed because the groomsmen lost her husband, and the wedding was in five hours, HARDY HAR HAR WHAT A BITCH), then it's just that much easier to dismiss a woman's thoughts
If a movie that is as widely liked as Superbad (Yeah, I'm going to keep using that reference, because it's the one everyone I know seems to ~love~, and the only one I've seen) says that rape is okay, and trust me, it does, it becomes okay! The entire premise of Superbad is that these three guys want to lose their virginity, so they go on a two hour long quest to find some beer to get them drunk with. The one guy who is like, "Fuck this shit, I want her to like me for me, not the beer," is horribly ridiculed and told not to be such a pussy.
It makes things that are not acceptable in any way, shape, or form, acceptable! It's teaching a generation that rape is okay, so long as you throw in some fart jokes with it. It's teaching abhorable things, but it's dubbed as a comedy, so anyone who is like, "Wtf, not cool," is told to get a sense of humor. Newsflash:
it isn't fucking funny. I don't find sexism funny. I don't find fat-hating funny. (I get it, it's a frat boy movie, and there is going to be some AHAHAH LOOK AT THE FAT GUY bullshit. Whatever. I just don't think that that is something that is going to interest me in any way. It also makes it easier to view anyone who is just a little bit heavy as something as less than human, to make fun of, to throw shit at, et cetera) I don't find the trashy humor and the hardy-har-har-seriously-this-is-so-funny-y
ou-guys-you-guys-seriously-if-you-don't-l
augh-at-this-you-are-as-big-a-pussy-as-t
hat-kid-who-doesn't-like-drunk-sex! funny. This does not amuse me.
People are being taught that rape is okay, that breaking the law is okay, that disregarding anything that a woman says is okay, that men have the right to be immature assholes, it's all a oh fucking kay. That is what upsets me, because I know that people take this dumbass shit way too seriously. People think that you can do it now, because it's not that big a deal. Disregarding women, because they have their periods, is okay. Raping women, because they're drunk, is okay. Telling a woman who doesn't like this bullshit to go get laid, is okay. You notice a common theme here?
They all downgrade
women. Every single last theme in these movies say that women are just holes to be fucked, and the rest of it is just white noise. Fuck man, those
Real Dolls show exactly that. Dolls are
just as good as a real woman. You can have sex with them... and that's it. Just like your dream girl!
cohensk: : people now will laugh at fucking anything. it's pathetic and we as a society are just turning into this distracted fucker that can't pay attention to anything that isn't fucking shiny or something
cohensk: : it's so sad
alannanite: for reals. and sometimes, it just plain borderlines scary
alannanite: like the saw movies
alannanite: not only is there enough of an audience for that shit that they made FIVE, but someone has to ~thikn~
alannanite: think of it
cohensk: : i mean, i don't mind that someone thinks of it and all that. i just mind those people who leave the theater going OMG WASN'T IT SO FUNNY WHEN THIS OR THAT PERSON DIED YEA I LAUGHED MY ASS OFF WHEN THEY RAPED THAT CHICK, MAN
It is scary. Legitimately scary. People who list the Saw movies as their favorite automatically go on my 'avoid' list. Because it isn't about the fear, like I know a lot of people say. It's about the control, the power, the "wow, what a dumbass, they deserve it". In Saw, if you haven't seen them (I haven't myself), people who are "don't derserve to live", because of drugs, adultery, pedophila, et cetera, are kidnapped and brutally tortured so they can learn how precious life is.
Yeah, not so much. I don't care what the premise of this stupid series is. That's nothing more than a cover. The point of this movie is to watch people be tortured. That's it. There is no underlying theme, no motif, no symbolism. Plain pain and agony. But it's okay, you guys, because these people
deserved it!When do we draw the line at who deserves it and who doesn't? When do we decide who is a decent human being and who isn't? Why do we, as a culture, say that the only people who matter are rich white boys, stuck in a frat phase and never grew up?
Why the fuck is the media sending out a constant message to disregard, to ignore, and to laugh?( The entire conversation, if you are so inclined )
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