stupidpetowners: One point for having the bird harnessed.

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bloophoenix) wrote in

stupidpetowners,
@ 2006-10-02 10:55:00

One point for having the bird harnessed. Minus ten points for putting your bird right next to a deadly predator with razor sharp claws and toxic saliva.

It's from http://cuteoverload.com/

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	rant 2006-10-02 10:00 am UTC (link)
	that's no where near as cute at the pom with the chick it it's jaws! awww omG SO CUTE GAG that kitten looks pretty unsure as to what to do though (Reply to this) (Thread)

	bellelvsbeast 2006-10-02 10:20 am UTC (link)
	NO WAI! The cutest pics in the whole wide world are of the infant outside with the big dog and it "hugs" the baby!!! AWWW SO CUTE AND AWESOME!!! :P NOT And this is ridiculous...I don't even own a bird and I have enough sense to not do this... (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	yukionna 2006-10-02 09:09 pm UTC (link)
	>.> I actually that it was really damn cute. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	bellelvsbeast 2006-10-02 09:39 pm UTC (link)
	You thought what was cute? The bird and cat? Or dog and infant? (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	yukionna 2006-10-03 03:22 am UTC (link)
	The dog and the infant. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

bellelvsbeast
2006-10-03 05:41 am UTC (link)

It may have been cute, except the dog was exhibiting warning signals it would attack. I went to Animal Law Academy and one of the slides we examined was the whole set of shots of the dog and the infant...the parents are just damn lucky the dog didn't kill their baby; it was being very territorial to it and a few minutes longer it would have killed the child...
THAT'S why it's so stupid...

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	yukionna 2006-10-03 05:52 am UTC (link)
	Oh please, those dogs are big teddy bears. We can't jump to the conclusion that "omg that dog was ready to bite that baby!!!1" It's pictures. We don't know anything about the personality of the dog or the family dynamics or anything. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

bellelvsbeast
2006-10-03 06:05 am UTC (link)

But how can you assume the dog is a "big teddy bear"? Dogs don't speak with words, they use body language. I am an ACO and to help protect myself from possibly dog attacks I was trained to read dog behavior. When they are uncomfortable with a situation they will show certain body postures and facial expressions...this dog was exhibiting more than a few, and I don't think his owners even realized how dangerous the situation was. Those pictures are the main example the Animal Law Academies use to show what not to do with your children...there are too many cases of children being mauled/killed by the "happy friendly" family dog because they were left alone, or put in situations where the dog was territorial...I could tell you tons of horror stories...

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yukionna
2006-10-03 06:10 am UTC (link)

I'm going to have to side with the one member who posted about everyone assuming the worst with these kind of pictures. It was a baby with a big dog. Obviously the dog had not ever shown any aggression towards the baby or else they wouldn't have put it in that situation. I like to assume people are capable with the safety of their pets and children before I assume they're blithering idiots.

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	bellelvsbeast 2006-10-03 06:21 am UTC (link)
	I would love to assume that too, but I have seen too many cases where the worst does happen. I've had to deal with it first hand. I guess you could say the uneducated, stupid owners ruined it for everyone...in my job I have to assume the worse, that's how I protect myself and educate other people... (Reply to this) (Parent)

	smirnoffmule 2006-10-02 11:16 am UTC (link)
	The bird looks like it's about to bite kitty on the nose... (Reply to this) (Thread)

	coanteen 2006-10-02 12:38 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, my worry was for the kitten too. I'd think that it would be at least an equal threat (and aren't kitties that age pretty...uncoordinated, as deadly predators go?). (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	dizzydezzy 2006-10-02 12:51 pm UTC (link)
	uncoordinated or not, they do have very razor sharp claws and nearly no claw control at that age.. and, of course, there's the saliva. Even if the cat and the bird somehow get along, if the bird preens the cat where it's been grooming, or the cat licks the bird and the bird preens that, the bird is in danger of cathcing a very serious bacterial infeciton.. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	coanteen 2006-10-02 12:55 pm UTC (link)
	I know nothing of birds or their saliva woes, but I know that beak could probably take out kitty's eye. Bad idea all around. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

dizzydezzy
2006-10-02 01:26 pm UTC (link)

most mammals, including humans, have bacteria in their saliva that are beneicial to them, but tend to cause very serious infecitons in birds (which is why you are not supposed to let your budgie eat anything that has been in your mouth), and these are particularly concentrated in cat saliva. So much so that even a lick from a cat may be deangerous, and a cat bite will almost always kill a bird eventually, unless the bird is promptly put on a course of strong antibiotics...

And yeah, the bird could do a bit of damage, doubt there would be loss of an eye involved as tiels tend to grab onto a fleshy part and twist, rather than trying to peck. The cat mgiht get a few scratches, at the worst if the tiel's aim is good maybe a ripped nosetril... and the bird will be dead.

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	chrome_blonde 2006-10-02 12:59 pm UTC (link)
	I think that's why I avoid that community, I keep seeing pictures like this come out of it. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	midnight_d 2006-10-02 01:25 pm UTC (link)
	The vast majority of pictures on there aren't bad, but yes.... some of them are. It really sucks that sometimes the cutest pics are kind of dumb. For example, if you didn't know any better, this picture would be pretty darn cute. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	chrome_blonde 2006-10-02 02:24 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, I can see how the picture would seem cute to the standard non-pet owner, I mean, it is cute. It's just bizarre that the pet owners themselves also find it harmless and cute o.O (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	midnight_d 2006-10-02 02:28 pm UTC (link)
	Haha yeah, well unfortunately lots of pet owners are also morons. But really though, most people would think that after years of watching tweety cartoons they'd know that cats + birds =/= good. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	jinwicked 2006-10-02 03:37 pm UTC (link)
	You mean all those years of seeing Sylvester stick Tweety in his mouth and then spit him out again, and Tweety was okay... WAS A LIE? sobs quietly (Reply to this) (Parent)

	esprit_wolf 2006-10-02 02:42 pm UTC (link)
	The bird looks like it's stressed out by the kitten's presence. (Reply to this)

	blitzen_ 2006-10-02 03:26 pm UTC (link)
	wow. a harness for a bird... (Reply to this) (Thread)

	staceface_08 2006-10-02 10:53 pm UTC (link)
	(: It's the only safe way to take pet birds outside! Besides having them in a cage. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	gatorofages 2006-10-03 06:03 am UTC (link)
	Or have well trained birds, with good recall. (Reply to this) (Parent)

petitfour
2006-10-02 04:25 pm UTC (link)

i won't remark directly on this picture, but at the risk of alienating this whole community, i actually get rather pissed when people assume that the owners of these pets are idiots.

there's only so much you can tell through a photograph, so i hate it when people jump to the conclusion that now the chick/bird/baby is in mortal peril, nevermind the adult behind the camera.

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bloophoenix
2006-10-02 05:41 pm UTC (link)

Letting a predator get that close to a prey animal (who can die from the predator's saliva alone) doesn't make me rank the pet-owning skills of their owners very highly.

I've seen way too many of people taking photographs of their cats with their bird/hamster/snake/lizard/other prey animal, and in more than a few cases I've seen people go "OH! Fluffy just ate Mr. Sniffles! Bad kitty! I never saw this coming!" You just can't ignore the hunting instincts of cats, even if they don't seem to be triggered too easily.

It's true that one photograph doesn't tell the whole story, but a picture can still say a thousand words. What words you interpret is a matter of opinion and my interpretation is that these animals should not meet in such close quarters, let alone have photographs taken of them which renders at least one person on the scene unable to step in quickly should something happen.

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luxovia
2006-10-02 05:55 pm UTC (link)

Thank you! The receptionist at my vet was cooing over my hammie one day and mentioned that she lets her cat and gerbil play together! Her view was that, well they've been fine so far, the cats seem to have no interest in eating the gerbil...Am I the only one of the opinion that it only takes one second for the cat to decide mmmm...gerbil and that's it. I don't even let my dog in the same room as the hamsters. It's simply not worth the risk, even though my dog is ancient and pretty blind...

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dayglow
2006-10-04 11:44 am UTC (link)

I just got a pair of rats yesterday, and I already have a pair of cats. My boyfriend wants to introduce the pairs and I'm not sure if he just meant 'rats in cage' type introduce, or to let them free-range together, with supervision.

Cause honestly, I'm totally not cool with the latter idea. Squeak has an incredibly high prey drive (does it move? is it shiny? does it make a noise? KILL IT), and both the girls are still fairly kittenish and playful. I wouldn't trust them, even if they are the sweetest babies in the world. Cats are cats and rats are rats, and that's just the way it is.

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therosewilde
2006-10-04 06:53 pm UTC (link)

I have let my kittens and rats meet by way of "one rat held fairly firmly in one hand, kitten held very firmly in other hand." They have sniffed eachother, because I figure if they need to be shut in the same room (rats in cage, obviously) or travel in the same car, better for them to "know" eachother than to flip out in a stress full situation.

They also keep trying to nose eachother through the cage bars - I have come into the room several times to find a kitten asleep pressed to the bars of the cage outside, and Sarge (the more affectionate rat) pressed to the other side of the bats. But then, Sarge is a weirdo who thinks a stuffed toy mouse is his baby.

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	petitfour 2006-10-02 06:39 pm UTC (link)
	i'm not disputing the fact that various salivas and cats are very bad for birds, i'm just saying that in general i hate when people on CO flip out and assume the worst possible scenario, always. (Reply to this) (Parent)

Mind you, I was still wiping the sleep from my eyes when I saw this...

trademybike
2006-10-02 04:27 pm UTC (link)

I stared at that picture for a good minute before realizing what it was and also scrolling down and seeing it was a bird. I came to the conclusion myself, but because of the lighting and the way the beak is turned, I thought it was like, a kitty burn victim or something (sadly), and was wondering how the hell someone could DO THAT to a kitten... then I realized it was a bird and went zOMG, totally not good.

Just out of curiousity... can kitties that young get declawed? If so, maybe that youngin' only packs one punch (of saliva) instead of two... but still. Bad.

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	Re: Mind you, I was still wiping the sleep from my eyes when I saw this... staceface_08 2006-10-02 10:55 pm UTC (link)
	an kitties that young get declawed? Ehhh... probably. But that would be all sorts of cruel. A kitty that young (I'd think) wouldn't have the strength to recover from something like that... (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Mind you, I was still wiping the sleep from my eyes when I saw this... sopay 2006-10-03 03:39 am UTC (link)
	Actually, kittens recover much better from any type of surgery than an adult cat does. Cats heal quickly anyway, but a kitten heals even faster because its body is growing. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Mind you, I was still wiping the sleep from my eyes when I saw this... staceface_08 2006-10-03 04:19 am UTC (link)
	That makes sense. My bad! Still, though, wheather they heal faster or slower, better or worse, declawing is horrible, in my opinion... but I hope others agree. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	ginkaruja 2006-10-02 06:34 pm UTC (link)
	Considering the kitten's stance....which is 'Blah, what's this?', the bird looks like it's the more dangerous one of the two.....Of course I find birds rather hard to read.... (Reply to this) (Thread)

	terrenepixy 2006-10-02 07:05 pm UTC (link)
	The kitten has the "You smell strange" face on, as well, with the squinty eyes ... the bird looks a bit confused. Like it's saying "WTF are you?" But I don't know about birds. My friend's bird stares at me all the time, because he's like, in love with me. And I think he looks like he wants to eat my face off. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	ginkaruja 2006-10-02 07:10 pm UTC (link)
	I think the bird is all 'One step closer and you're gonna get it'. o.o',, Birds are strange, an African Grey I took care of for a bit looked and acted nice...but would turn around and bite you as hard as he could....never nailed me though. Fun bird...I miss him and his mircowave 'ding' sound. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

terrenepixy
2006-10-02 08:26 pm UTC (link)

Heh, that could be it too. Birds are SO strange. I want one, though - mum won't let me have one and its a bit stupid on my part anyways as I have pretty nasty asthma. But they're quite nice.

My mum had a bird as a teenager, a parakeet, that was really quiet and by all accounts didn't ever really do much ... unless someone started playing reggae. And then the bird would dance. I think that's quite possibly the cutest thing ever.

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	maxlavigne 2006-10-02 06:51 pm UTC (link)
	Putting the fact that it's a kitten next to a bird aside, damn that's a cute picture! (Reply to this)

	badenbaden 2006-10-03 01:25 am UTC (link)
	The bird's feathers look flattened and his beak is slightly open; my bird does this "mad face" when he encounters something new and strange and will bite if it comes too close (like the bandaid I had on my finger earlier today, apparently). Overall this situation, while cute, is just no good. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	luna_hoshino 2006-10-03 01:51 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, that's totally a "I'm gonna bite you" face. My budgies do the same thing when feeling threatened. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	anjea 2006-10-03 04:09 am UTC (link)
	Seriously. It's probably Photoshopped, like most of the others. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	bloophoenix 2006-10-03 09:25 am UTC (link)
	The other Photoshops looked blatantly obvious to me. If this is Photoshopped - damn - that's some 'shopping talent. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	childlight 2006-10-03 05:31 pm UTC (link)
	I think I would be more concerned about the bird attacking the kitten in this case (Reply to this)

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