Elizabeth A ([info]milk_and_glass) wrote in [info]stupid_free,
@ 2006-11-03 09:42:00
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Argh, I hate these freetards that give the rest of us a bad name.

Today's lovely post comes from one [info]the_ladytramp in [info]cf_hardcore. She believes that because a children's hospital is asking for donations and using children in their commercials, that society is saying that only children's cancers matter and the rest of us can go to hell.

The link: Oh noes, won't someone think of the freeeeeeeeeetards??!!11!</>

only children matter. ever.

sorry to make two posts in one day, but i just HAD to get this out because stuff like this makes me so very, very angry.

earlier this evening, i was watching telly and on came this advert for "st. jude's childrens hospital" for childhood cancer. they showed all of those horribly depressing pictures of kids that should be playing around in the dirt at school but are instead hooked up to IVs the size of garden hoses and respirators with no hair from chemotherapy. admittedly, it's pretty depressing even though i hate kids. a few were shown talking to the camera talking about what kind of cancer they had, moms were crying, piano music was playing in the background as the saints of the hospital (i.e. the nurses) helped the kids. all of that sort of thing to tug at the heartstrings. and then they had a few doctors and parents endorsing donations to their hospital, saying things like, "we need to beat childhood cancer" and "these children need your help" and "we need your contribution to end this tragedy of children being so ill" and "children have hope because of your donations!" and other things like that.

that's all fine and dandy, but this thought popped into my head:

kids aren't the only ones who get cancer.

yes, it's sad when people, any people, get cancer. but if we want to beat cancer, we should aim to beat ALL cancers--not just childhood cancers. cancer doesn't discriminate, why should a cure? and aren't there more cancers you can get as an adult than as a child? children don't get breast, testicular, colon, lung, or pancreatic cancer so much, do they?

but of course the children matter far more than the adults and elderly who die every day from cancer. who gives a flying fuck about my grandfather who died two years ago from pancreatic cancer, less than six months after he found out he had it? why on earth would anybody give a damn about my best friends' father who died from leukemia six months after that? and why should we bother trying to find a cure for my other friends' mom, who will soon be starting chemo for breast cancer? these people don't matter because they're not kids!

honestly, it makes me angrier than it should.

thoughts?

Luckily everyone's pretty much flaming her cuz it's so fucking ridiculous. Enjoy!




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[info]shivedheart
2006-11-03 02:48 pm UTC (link)
*headdesk* You know what? While I don't want kids of my own (thanks to horrendous family genes), I applaud St. Jude and all that they do. She's the type to wish cancer on a kid just because she hates them. She makes us all look bad and I'm ashamed to call myself child free.

I bet she freaked out because, OMG, kids were trick or treating on HALLOWEEN! The NERVE!

Sorry. I quit all those communities because I couldn't stand the self-rightous bullshit.

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[info]yuxonomei
2006-11-03 03:09 pm UTC (link)
She's the type to wish cancer on a kid just because she hates them.

Then complain because they get treated for it.

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[info]karnythia
2006-11-03 02:49 pm UTC (link)
I...wow. I love that someone pointed out that the bulk of the research money already goes to fighting adult cancers.

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[info]conceptual_tea
2006-11-03 03:13 pm UTC (link)
I agree. The original post was quite stupid, but many of the responses were rather impressive :)

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(no subject) - [info]karnythia, 2006-11-03 03:16 pm UTC
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[info]merlyn4401
2006-11-03 02:50 pm UTC (link)
What these freetards need to do is turn off their TVs, never buy another magazine, book, or newspaper, and hole up in their houses (without a computer) so they will never again be exposed to babies or children. And by happy coincidence, if they do this, they will no longer expose the rest of us to their rampant selfishness, narcissism, and stupidity.

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[info]feel_real_love
2006-11-03 02:56 pm UTC (link)
I like that idea :)

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(no subject) - [info]missysedai, 2006-11-03 04:25 pm UTC
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[info]hatsumomo
2006-11-03 02:55 pm UTC (link)
Well all cancer is sad and unfortunate but I think what makes childhood cancer (and all serious childhood illnesses) so sad is that kids shouldn't be having to deal with that kind of pain and really should only have to worry about Barbies or Action Man or whatever and not wondering if they are going to die.

I'm not having children and i'm not very mushy when it comes to kids but I still have to try hard not to blub at cancer adverts that have kids in them. Yeah people say "Oh they are just manipulating our emotions blah blah" but if it gets more people to donate who the fuck cares.

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[info]teacupdiaries
2006-11-03 03:25 pm UTC (link)
I'm CF and I'm not exactly fond of most children because I have no idea how to interact with them on any meaningful level.

That said, I cannot watch adverts or documentaries about children with terminal diseases. I start crying and end up seriously depressed for the whole day, sometimes longer.

I only give to one charity every year (as opposed to my usual method of donating to different charities throughout the year) and it's a support group and care centre for children with terminal illness. The centre provides support for the children AND the parents, and helps everyone have as normal a life as possible. They also arrange all funerals if the parents ask them to in order to help parents through what has to be the worst time of their lives. And once the child has passed on, their care of the parents doesn't stop; they help set up life-long support groups for people who need it.

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[info]defaultcrush
2006-11-03 02:59 pm UTC (link)
Yes, because diseases like breast cancer are never given any ad space. *rolls eyes*

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[info]porcelain72
2006-11-03 03:04 pm UTC (link)
Wow, adults can get cancer too? I didn't know that, I was too busy getting shilled for money to treat wizened little bald children. Thank God for [info]cf_hardcore, I'll never give them another dime again!

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[info]fleshpetal
2006-11-03 04:05 pm UTC (link)
HAHAHA AND ITS PORCELAIN72 FOR THE WIN!!! awesome!

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[info]windypoint
2006-11-03 03:06 pm UTC (link)
They whine when they go to hospital and there are kids there to annoy them. They whine when kids get their own hospitals. Obviously sick kids should be euthanased instead of treated?

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[info]vespabelle
2006-11-03 06:07 pm UTC (link)
but if we kill all the kids, what will the Shriners do as cover for their world domination?

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(no subject) - [info]thejoysofjess, 2006-11-04 01:46 am UTC

[info]yuxonomei
2006-11-03 03:08 pm UTC (link)
Heh, does this mean that as someone who has had cervical cancer, I should get upset because there are ads about Prostate cancer but not Cervical cancer on telly?

The stupid, it hurts. Next they'll be complaining about Great Ormonde St hospital.

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[info]thejoysofjess
2006-11-04 01:47 am UTC (link)
You mean you missed being bombarded with "DID YOU KNOW HPV CAUSES CERVICAL CANCER!??!?@ TELL A FRIEND! I HAD NO IDEA! TELL SOMEONE!"?

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[info]teacupdiaries
2006-11-03 03:21 pm UTC (link)
Here's what I don't get. . .

There's a number of people in the comments who agree with the OP because someone close to them died of cancer because they didn't receive proper treatment, or couldn't afford it. I'm lucky because I haven't lost anyone close to me through a horribly degenerative illness/disease such as cancer, but I've supported friends and family through such losses, and my bestfriend's sister has had cancer twice (and, thank the lord, is alive today to tell the tale).

I understand that watching someone you love die must be THE hardest, most painful experience in the whole world, and I have a limitless supply of empathy and sympathy for anyone who has been through that. But, having been in that position, why are they then begrudging people who ARE getting help, or who are even asking for it?

I get that losing someone can make you bitter and irrational, but surely they see that it's that kind of attitude that might have led to their own loved one not getting adequate treatment?

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[info]windypoint
2006-11-03 03:24 pm UTC (link)
Because they don't see children as people.

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[info]ex_missmolly32
2006-11-03 03:52 pm UTC (link)
Grrr. Those communities make my blood boil.

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[info]pageless
2006-11-03 03:57 pm UTC (link)
Wonder if they realize that if cancer is caught in childhood, rather than in adulthood, it's easier to treat? Perhaps, one day, they'll have a tremendous headache, that will turn out to be... cancer of the brain! And they'll be informed they had it since childhood, but it was misdiagnosed, due to not enough funding for the children!

A vicious cycle, but I rather like it. :)

And enough with the boo-hooing about older people dying. It really isn't the same. Ya gotta wonder now though, how many of these folks are 'childfree', because they're actually horrified of having someone else die on them. Hmm.

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[info]evillottie
2006-11-03 04:17 pm UTC (link)
I read the post about St Jude's. It sounds like a fantastic place. And I'm another person in CFH who lost a relative to cancer, but I'm not going to belittle kids who have cancer because of it. It's just as horrible for their parents as it was for me watching my dad die. Also, at least my dad was able to resist and even get better for a while - kids' immune systems are still developing. They do have it worse. They need all the help they can get.
And of course it's going to mention children with cancer, it's a fucking CHILDREN'S hospital. Duh.

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[info]socktree
2006-11-03 04:17 pm UTC (link)
I knew this was gonna show up sooner or later, however, this post deserves to be here. I already added my thoughts to the post, but it had me shaking in anger to type it out.

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[info]pester
2006-11-03 08:31 pm UTC (link)
Your experience was very powerful. Thank you for posting it.

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[info]molkat
2006-11-03 04:32 pm UTC (link)
That post pissed me off so much. What an ignorant jackass. I love when she claims how no one cares that her friend's mom has breast cancer and implying there's no funding for breast cancer research. The list of adult cancers she provides all receive funding and research, lots of it. Clearly she hasn't been too close to cancer because otherwise she would truly appreciate saving anyone no matter what age from that disease. Young or old, it's a shit way to die.

Also sucks to be a child or adult with a rare cancer. Those are the people really getting the shaft with funding and research.

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[info]tovasshi
2006-11-03 04:34 pm UTC (link)
My parents donate to the Children's Wish foundation. Imaginge how much that would piss them off!

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[info]molkat
2006-11-03 04:37 pm UTC (link)
What an awful charity, making dreams come true for dying children. Your parents should be ashamed.

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[info]xratedouroboros
2006-11-03 04:45 pm UTC (link)
too lazy to wait to be friended to cf_hardcore

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[info]pester
2006-11-03 04:51 pm UTC (link)
That's really lovely. Let's all get angry at the PAEDIATRIC CANCER VICTIMS' CHARITY HOSPITAL. And then let's go kick a puppy on the way home.

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[info]sister_anne
2006-11-03 04:57 pm UTC (link)
heehee- that's funny. i could almost understand if she was being forced [via taxes] to donate to the hospital, when she would prefer to donate to adult cancer causes, but anyone complaining about privately funded charities- in which she has a choice to not support, financially or otherwise- gets no sympathy from me.

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[info]redxmagnum
2006-11-03 05:14 pm UTC (link)
What? A children's hospital isn't soliciting donations to cure adult cancer? That is almost as ridiculous as the dollar store not selling diamonds, or the fact that I can't buy a car when I go to the pet store! What IS this world coming to?

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[info]pastry_pig
2006-11-03 06:04 pm UTC (link)
I am thinking that perhaps, just maybe, children might grow into adults. And if their cancer is treated when they're younger, there won't be as many adults with cancer. I think that it's good that they're helping *SOMEONE* with the money. And I say this as someone who's father died of cancer.

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[info]evillottie
2006-11-03 09:40 pm UTC (link)
Exactly.

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[info]blondebeaker
2006-11-03 06:11 pm UTC (link)
This is making me especially mad and ranty right now because I just found out that my friend's son might have a brain tumour and it could be cancer.

In my area the Stollery Hospital has its annual telethon in June for fundraising and the "Adult" Hospitals have their "Cash and Cars" and dream home lotteries several times a year. Oh look the adult hospitals have more fundraising. *rolls eyes*

Cancer sucks no matter how old you.

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[info]conceptual_tea
2006-11-03 06:19 pm UTC (link)
Parents should just deal with their kids having cancer or pay for their treatment out of pocket. After all, they knew it was a possibility the kid could get sick and die when they chose to have kids so they have no right to complain and demand money interrupting my TV shows!! Those entitelment bitches!!

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[info]vespabelle
2006-11-03 06:33 pm UTC (link)
Is she mad that the World Wildlife Fund has a cute cuddly panda as its logo rather than some equally endangered but un-cute animal?

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[info]sister_anne
2006-11-03 07:07 pm UTC (link)
that made me lol for reals.

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[info]sio
2006-11-03 06:44 pm UTC (link)
God forbid any of them work at Walmart like i do....they probly flip out if their management is the type to push selling the Children's Miracle Network (same idea, different set of hospitals) balloons/bracelets/other little things.

i wonder how many of them don't want to admit to being written up for that sort of behavior if they actually acted it out at work. i wouldn't be surprised.

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[info]ravan
2006-11-03 06:55 pm UTC (link)
Now you know why I'm not in cf_hardcore.

A *childrens hospital* will naturally solicit funds to treat *children*, and have *children* in their ads!! Just like an alzheimers treatment facility will have elderly people! Duh!!

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[info]sister_anne
2006-11-03 07:06 pm UTC (link)
or the united negro college fund having young black people in their ads.

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(no subject) - [info]blkrabbitofinle, 2006-11-03 08:38 pm UTC

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