Hmmm ([info]alwaysmoi) wrote in [info]sharonshinn,
@ 2006-05-12 20:14:00
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a question!
Hello everyone...I'm excited to have discovered this community!

I randomly checked out "Summers at Castle Auburn" from the library a few summers ago and read it in an evening. It's one of the few, really good books where I "forget" my surroundings, which prompted me to go to the bookstore and buy a copy to keep at home. It's definitely my favorite, followed closely by Mystic & Rider and the Thirteenth House. I'm particularly fond of Kirra as her name is the same as mine, minus an extra r---though I suppose that's a bit of a fifth grade reason to favor a character :)

Ah, anyway, I have a bit of an embarassing confession: I haven't read the Samaria trilogy yet because I generally abhor science fiction....for some reason, it just doesn't capture me the way all other genres do( I do not mean this offensively, so I hope it isn't coming across in a negative fashion!) I definitely plan on giving these books a try---but as I'm a starving college student, I can't decide whether to spring for it or check it out from the library. I have a long plane trip coming up, a budget big enough for about one or two books to read en route, and I'll go mad if I don't have a good book to keep me company. Though I can always reread Summers at Castle Auburn :)

So, my question(s): how much of the first Samaria book is science fiction and how much is fantasy? If any of you guys aren't crazy about science fiction either, what was your opinion of it?

I'd go poke around on amazon.com book reviews, but lately I've been burned by people who can't seem to restain blurting out the key plot points/ending/characters deaths/etc.



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[info]kitsuneneko
2006-05-13 12:35 am UTC (link)
Welcome!! ^^

I am a sci-fi/fantasy fan myself, but the Samarian trilogy (now more than that..) is beautifully done. A very nice balance. Though I suppose "technically" it is more fantasy.

I would definately definately recommend at least picking up Archangel. If you don't care for that one, you might not like the others. You could always get it used for just a few bucks (a la Amazon.com).

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[info]diadeloro
2006-05-13 12:52 am UTC (link)
Samaria really isn't science fiction. I don't really like sci-fi either, but the Samaria books are spectacular. The last one is a bit more science-fictiony, but only a bit. They really are worth the read.

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[info]myuki_chan
2006-05-13 12:52 am UTC (link)
Hi there!

I'm the same. I really cannot stand science fiction yet so many novels I read that appear to be pure fantasy are labelled that. Rather odd. But in regards to Archangel, I actually didn't find it very sci-fi at all. I loved that one but I have to say I wasn't extremely fond of the next two (much more sci-fi in those). Still interesting novels, but not my favourites. :)

I did love the two novels she wrote after the trilogy, Angelica and Angel-Seeker, as those are less sci-fi focused as well.

So I definitely recommend you to at least try reading Archangel. :)

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[info]zepherina
2006-05-13 01:31 am UTC (link)
Welcome! In my opinion, Archangel was more fantasy than sci-fi for me. Then again, I only really saw the romance in the story more than anything else. But this story is definitely high on my Top 10 Favourite stories, so I think you should definitely borrow it from the library first then buy it if you love it. I understand the starving university student thing, cuz I am one too.

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[info]mariann
2006-05-13 12:03 pm UTC (link)
Categorizing the Samaria books as sci-fi is a huge mistake. They're futuristic fantasy and Archangel is simply wonderful. You're missing out on an exceptional world and scenario if you skip that Shinn title!

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[info]q_sama
2006-05-13 01:34 pm UTC (link)
I have to agree with everyone else here... the Samaria books really shouldn't be classified as sci-fi, though they have futuristic, scientific elements. At the best they would be SOCIAL science-fiction - and my guess is that if you're a fan of Shinn's writing, you adore her ability to create worlds and societies that you can immerse yourself in. And the Samaria books are quite perfect for that.

Definitely read Archangel first. It reads as straight fantasy. And I suspect that if you fall in love with Samaria, the following two in the trilogy will be easier (and fascinating) to read despite the science-fiction elements.

I hated sci-fi until I found Sharon Shinn. Then I discovered Connie Willis and my entire outlook on sci-fi was altered. I hope you can have a similar experience! :D

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[info]glory_to_glory
2006-05-13 02:46 pm UTC (link)
I think of the Samaria trilogy ( it ended up being six books) as more fantasy, romance, religion than sci fi.

I totally loved all six of the books!!!!!

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[info]sanamargaret
2006-05-13 04:00 pm UTC (link)
I like Mariann's description of futuristic fantasy - I think it's rather apt. Shinn's Samaria series is a bit like Anne McCaffrey's Pern series in that they contain elements of both science fiction and fantasy, though some books are more one genre than the other. Crossover sf/f is usually how I described them.

Love Archangel - highly recommended. I suggest reading the Samaria books in publication order rather than story order because Samaria and its history developed as Shinn wrote the books, so some plot/references make more sense in publication order. That's my personal feeling, though - I think some people have read the books in story order and have been fine with it.

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[info]falling_blossom
2006-05-13 10:24 pm UTC (link)
I'm going to have to disagree with the majority here--I see the Samaria series as science fiction--without a doubt.

The problem I see with the science fiction genre is that a lot of people associate it only with "hard" science fiction--that is, books based on purely on physics, mathematics, technology... That's simply not true at all; there are plenty of science fiction books out there that do focus on other elements of society: Dune (though it has the ecology aspect), C.J. Cherryh's work, etc. etc. World building and space opera are also a part of science fiction.

That's why I prefer to call both science fiction and fantasy "sf," or speculative fiction. The terms "science fiction" and "fantasy" tend alienate people. Technology-driven sf isn't all there is to fiction, and some people (though I am SOOOOO not one of them) probably think of fanatsy as fluff. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the terms give way to too many stereotypes?

Err... I know I'm rambling a bit, but I guess what I wanted to say is that 1) the Samaria series is science fiction rather than fantasy (if you want to use those terms) and 2) that being science fiction is a bad thing.

I know when you asked that you were probably more concerned with the really crazy technology stuff, and this book isn't one like that. It's not hard sf in the least. I really love the series because of all the elements that everyone above listed. I really do think that it would be a good investment. :)

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[info]jilly_bear
2006-05-15 01:57 pm UTC (link)
I think it is really more Romantic fantasy than Sci Fi. Check out Archangel from the library and read it - if you like it - consider purchasing the rest of the series one at a time.

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Lets define "Science Fiction"
[info]taltos_dragon
2006-05-26 01:16 am UTC (link)
*invading thread* I haven't gotten to read them yet either, and I am curious to these answers as well... so let me throw a wrench in the works. When I took a Science Fiction class at my college (I'm and English major so I can get away with classes like that :oD) ... anyways. We were taught to classify it by asking "is this scientifically possible" so can everything happen by mechanics or through technology. IE No magic, no "It just works" theory (This is not saying that fictional SOURCES can't be used. So if a author created planet has infantrolium, a fuel that never completely burns and can run a spaceship for the duration of it's existance...so be it). SO now lets repeat this process for me! :o) Is Samaria Science Fiction?

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