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All this new Vanessa crap has brought a new infuriating wave of stupidity and closemindedness. I've been bothered for some time by comments from SG models and members about LP and his situation. The public court documents have surfaced, yet so many people remain close-minded and uninformed and blindly accept Sean and Missy's damage control without looking at the facts.
I've heard from multiple sources and models in LA that Sean has been saying that "LP brought this on himself, he broke his contract" and that it's "unfair for him to have his fans paying for his lawsuit". More and more I see these sentiments echoed and repeated by clueless morons like the one below:
I love it how these new girls come along and speak as if they are informed authorities on the subject. She refers to Lithium Picnic as "they"...
"They violated the contract pure and simple" she says. Fuck em!
How does she know? Because Sean said so? Because some SG cheerleader or staff member told her so?
Has anyone else even bothered to read the court documents posted HERE? Does this idiot girl or any of the others like her even know what contract they are referring to when they say "He/They broke THE CONTRACT" with such conviction and certainty?
Do some homework it's interesting stuff.
At the core of this lawsuit is the claim that LP broke his contract with SG by shooting apnea for her site apneatic.com.
SG claims that her site is a competitor to SG. LP's defense has been that his contract had a special provision in it that allowed him to shoot for "single girl personality based sites".
At the core of the matter is this part of his agreement, the section that allowed him to shoot for sites like apneatic.com:
In case you missed the last part "SG Competitor shall not include single girl personality based sites..."
So how did he break his contract? Apneatic is a site based around the personality of one girl. She is present in every photo on the site. Do you still think he broke his contract, Mackenzye?
The matter of whether or not some of the visual themes are similar or dissimilar is a smokescreen and not even relevant, but this appears to be the basis of SG's argument for why apneatic.com is not a valid exception.
SG’s visual themes are general and broad and not unique.
The wording and spirit of the contract provides a list of “types” of sites that are allowed and are not considered competitors.
The first in this list of “types” of sites is “single girl personality based sites”. The list goes on to include other types of allowed sites including “fetish and fine art sites with themes dissimilar to those of SG”.
SG appears to be suggesting that the attributes of this last “type” of site also apply to every previous exception listed in such a way that they all are required to have dissimilar themes.
So what is the laswsuit against him really about? A personal grudge? SG's tactic seems to be to drain their competition with stalling and drawing things out as long and as expensively as they can. It appears they have delayed the LP trial and the trial against Godsgirls appears to have been delayed til the fall as well. Apnea and LP appear to be under some type of gag order since the new lawsuit against Apnea began, but in the last fundraising posts they made online the legal fees to his attorneys alone were over over $25,000.
I'm still amazed seeing people on SG chat bash LP when they have so few facts. If anyone mentions this stuff, they get called down and people refer to him as "the one that shall not be named" it's like fucking Scientology. I think anyone who comments on whether or not he broke his contract without doing some research into the facts is a moron and I'm sick of seeing this pooor guy bashed by blind cheerleaders that accept every word from Sean and Missy's mouth as fact.
NEWSFLASH: They Lie. A lot.
source:
Multnomah County Courthouse
File Room 131
1021 SW 4th
Portland, OR 97204
(phone 503-988-3003)
http://addictedimage.com/supportlithiump
http://freelithiumpicnic.com/2.html
I've heard from multiple sources and models in LA that Sean has been saying that "LP brought this on himself, he broke his contract" and that it's "unfair for him to have his fans paying for his lawsuit". More and more I see these sentiments echoed and repeated by clueless morons like the one below:
I love it how these new girls come along and speak as if they are informed authorities on the subject. She refers to Lithium Picnic as "they"...
"They violated the contract pure and simple" she says. Fuck em!
How does she know? Because Sean said so? Because some SG cheerleader or staff member told her so?
Has anyone else even bothered to read the court documents posted HERE? Does this idiot girl or any of the others like her even know what contract they are referring to when they say "He/They broke THE CONTRACT" with such conviction and certainty?
Do some homework it's interesting stuff.
At the core of this lawsuit is the claim that LP broke his contract with SG by shooting apnea for her site apneatic.com.
SG claims that her site is a competitor to SG. LP's defense has been that his contract had a special provision in it that allowed him to shoot for "single girl personality based sites".
At the core of the matter is this part of his agreement, the section that allowed him to shoot for sites like apneatic.com:
In case you missed the last part "SG Competitor shall not include single girl personality based sites..."
So how did he break his contract? Apneatic is a site based around the personality of one girl. She is present in every photo on the site. Do you still think he broke his contract, Mackenzye?
The matter of whether or not some of the visual themes are similar or dissimilar is a smokescreen and not even relevant, but this appears to be the basis of SG's argument for why apneatic.com is not a valid exception.
SG’s visual themes are general and broad and not unique.
The wording and spirit of the contract provides a list of “types” of sites that are allowed and are not considered competitors.
The first in this list of “types” of sites is “single girl personality based sites”. The list goes on to include other types of allowed sites including “fetish and fine art sites with themes dissimilar to those of SG”.
SG appears to be suggesting that the attributes of this last “type” of site also apply to every previous exception listed in such a way that they all are required to have dissimilar themes.
So what is the laswsuit against him really about? A personal grudge? SG's tactic seems to be to drain their competition with stalling and drawing things out as long and as expensively as they can. It appears they have delayed the LP trial and the trial against Godsgirls appears to have been delayed til the fall as well. Apnea and LP appear to be under some type of gag order since the new lawsuit against Apnea began, but in the last fundraising posts they made online the legal fees to his attorneys alone were over over $25,000.
I'm still amazed seeing people on SG chat bash LP when they have so few facts. If anyone mentions this stuff, they get called down and people refer to him as "the one that shall not be named" it's like fucking Scientology. I think anyone who comments on whether or not he broke his contract without doing some research into the facts is a moron and I'm sick of seeing this pooor guy bashed by blind cheerleaders that accept every word from Sean and Missy's mouth as fact.
NEWSFLASH: They Lie. A lot.
source:
Multnomah County Courthouse
File Room 131
1021 SW 4th
Portland, OR 97204
(phone 503-988-3003)
http://addictedimage.com/supportlithiump
http://freelithiumpicnic.com/2.html
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The intelligent ones - they left.
Have high expectations of them and you're just going to be sorely disappointed.
The Suicide Girls who left SG once the truth about the "gods" of alt porn came out were the intelligent ones. At this point, all that's going to be left are the ones that lack the intelligence to see through the bs. The exception would be the type who thrives off the attention they get by being an sg, but they're actually worse.
monovox: you really don't have to worry about LP, in the end karma takes care of the guilty.
So true my ignorant friend, so true.
2. I have said it before and it is very unpopular here, but the definition of the term "single girl personality site" within the context of a contract dispute can be picked apart for cause of breach. Because guess what, apneatic has more than one girl on it. The fact that other models don't write on her site is irrelevant. If LP thinks that Apnea can pose with other alt models in various sets and still call it a single girl site, just because all the blogs are about her is the height of naivete or ignorance especially when dealing with a litigious and vindictive entity like SG.
Think about it, lets say SG didnt care what LP did with apneatic. LP then could shoot 10, 20 or 1500 various alt models with Apnea and post their sets on his site. Could that then be considered competition? From SG's point of view, why wait til that happens?
I am not saying I agree that they should sue LP. What I am saying is that there is enough in there for cause and thats just on the surface. Who knows what else they are adding to the pile. Whether or not any of that sticks is up to a judge, but certainly enough to bring action.
JFC!
Also on a second point (on the subject of the lawsuit), the law courts are very complex and sometimes what seems like a simple outcome can end up in the opposite direction.
I can't remember what year it was, but a woman was in a shop with her own toddler when he was running around and she tripped up over her own toddler. She then SUCCESSFULLY sued the store for tripping over her own toddler. I think she won quite a lot of money too.
There are just so many technicalities and having studied media law, you wouldn't believe how companies manage to win because of one little detail that the defence couldn't uphold.
And i don't get why people get all pissed off because you mention this, some who read or post here have never thought of this and it's good information...
And i'm not saying the lawsuit is fair, it's actually a stupid thing...
Yet, i have liked the fact LP and Apnea have said or implied they believe 'at the end, everyone gets what they deserve', so i find very contradictory the thing that is going on with Vanessa... and i actually like Vanessa.
Anyway, not my business, but a good soap opera... back to what i was doing...
I think it's more likely to get pulled apart because she hasn't been a SuicideGirl in years and moved on to their competitors (Gods Girls and Deviant Nation).
You're an idiot.
Also:
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Think about it, lets say SG didnt care what LP did with apneatic. LP then could shoot 10, 20 or 1500 various alt models with Apnea and post their sets on his site. Could that then be considered competition? From SG's point of view, why wait til that happens?"
You can't sue someone for something they didn't.
LOL, "Almost" counts everytime in a legal context? Let's see if you can figure out from your own personal experience if any of these are true...
"almost" all pornstars have had an STD
"almost" all girls who start in porn do not use a condom.
"almost" all girls who strip eventually do hardcore porn.
"almost" all girls who start in the adult industry at 18 eventually end up regretting the decision
Unfortunately for you, judges and arbiters tend to not go by your own personal experience, but by actual facts. The only idiot around is pretty much anyone taking random legal advice from strippers and "pornstars".
"You can't sue someone for something they didn't."
and btw, you can sue anyone for any reason but to answer your statement, I wasn't stating that is the reason. I was stating that if they do feel that way, there is enough room in the contract to sue for something else in order to stop any perceived threat whether real or not. Maybe you should spend a little less time on your back (or on your knees) and a little more in the library if your going to give an opinion.
There is a valid argument for the fact that single girl sites do include girl/girl content.
Your reply just shows that you're a judgment and ignorant person who knows very little about the sex industry.
Suicide girls sucks. Congrats on being part of a corrupt company! YOU GO GIRL!
Lol and because you can take a dick like a champ somehow makes you an expert in the sex industry? Get a grip...my mistake you most likely have a really good one. and yes, suicidegirls does indeed suck. Prolly not as good as you, but they're trying to keep up.
I have worked in the sex industry since I was 18, I have a lot of friends involved in all aspects of the industry so I'm pretty fucking familiar with it.
GET OVER YOURSELF.
You could get and do those things very easily. I am sure your lot of friends in all aspects of the industry can and are willing to show you how. See you on the bangbus...next stop, fame and ahem...fortune?
If you're so anti adult entertainment why are you in this community? Really? You make a lot of ignorant and judgmental statements. You have no respect for women in this industry...what about men, what about the consumers?
I'm not going to apologize for being in porn and enjoying my work. I'm very open about what I do and why I do it. I understand all the risks associated with my job.
I wonder if some of these people also believe April 31st is an actual date as well, because Sean said so....