qow: Hi there!

Aeire (

aeire) wrote in

qow,
@ 2003-10-21 14:04:00

Current mood:

annoyed

Hi there!
Edited out - while I'll leave it here because I really do appreciate the comments, please see the latest community post. We're done with lists. Thank you.

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sylphon
2003-10-21 02:23 pm UTC (link)

I'm not really sure what to say here. The fact that people are claiming you can't draw is the height of stupidity. Or maybe it's just they are making knee jerk assessments they have no real basis for. I'm not sure. I hate to call them out, but the simple fact is, you can draw. It may not be whatever style they like, but if they base their assumptions solely off their own personal tastes, then I imagine most of the internet is pretty darn boring for them.

Every good comic creator is different. Every comic they draw is different. I've enjoyed your art and storylines quite a bit for awhile now. Sure the art style isn't as involved as some things I read or look at, but sometimes that is what makes it great. Some comics get too involved in the art and let the stories go to crud. You manage to balance both nicely. Especially given the fact that this is something you do for fun and to share with the world.

I don't see what gives a fan the right to trash talk one comic over another just because they come from different places. I'm kind of confused especially when I look at the comic they are comparing it to. I have no problem with the other comic, but to compare your comic and art to a sprite comic is laughable.

At the risk of sounding like a kiss up here, at least one good thing came of this, I got to see some other stuff you've drawn. I hadn't seen most of those links before.

Keep it up, I love your work, it's well worth waiting for and I pimp it out every chance I get.

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	bzarcher 2003-10-21 02:23 pm UTC (link)
	Looks at a comic that is the latest in a series of incredibly well drawn pieces by an obviously hardworking artist Looks at yet another shitty sprite comic Modest destiny means he obviously intended to get buried somewhere, anyhow. (Reply to this)

	codecattx 2003-10-21 02:24 pm UTC (link)
	drops to the ground abasing himself before the goddess of art You can really, really draw. I wish I had one tenth of your ability. (Reply to this)

	rbos 2003-10-21 02:24 pm UTC (link)
	You're an awesome artist, I love your sense of humour, and the stories you tell are nice and entertaining. also, marriage please, kthx. ^_^ (Reply to this)

	cheekyweebisom 2003-10-21 02:34 pm UTC (link)
	::Blink:: Assholes. I posted on my LJ telling everyone to go and defend your good name. (Reply to this)

	clintono 2003-10-21 02:39 pm UTC (link)
	Small minded assholes. Let me go on record by saying that I love your artwork. And that I enjoy QOW a lot. Keep doing what you are doing. It's great. This from a 34 year old. :) (Reply to this)

	supamunky 2003-10-21 02:42 pm UTC (link)
	Modest Destiny? Never heard of it. ^__^ I really haven't. (Reply to this)

ag_unicorn
2003-10-21 02:49 pm UTC (link)

Ditto

supamunky.

I've had people hook up with me via LJ because I mentioned QoW.

I've never even fucking heard of "A Modest Destiny."

Sounds like a bunch of pud-whacking pre-adolescents in the message boards out to chafe your ass because their comic isn't number one, Aeire; fuck 'em.

You can draw, and you know you can draw like nobody else's business.

No one else's opinion counts for shit.

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*gets in line*

apokryfae
2003-10-21 02:56 pm UTC (link)

As I am yet another avid reader (and voter) telling you that your art and story are both good, and personally enjoyable. Additionally, I have pimped out your comic on several occasions, and have heard back that friends enjoy it... so I know it ain't just me. :P

I wish we lived in a world where the fans who felt it necessary to attack you would realise that their own personal tastes in art & webcomics are just that: theirs. QoW floats my boat; AMD floats theirs; diversity is good. Now if only they could see it that way.

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	debxena 2003-10-21 03:02 pm UTC (link)
	Silly idiotic fanpoodles. They should grow up, really. runs off to push the shiney button Oh, and Aeire? That picture is AMAZING. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	aeire 2003-10-21 03:24 pm UTC (link)
	Er...which one? o.O (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	debxena 2003-10-21 03:33 pm UTC (link)
	Ooh - there are lots of them! I meant the moody one, but (runs away to look) the other ones rock too :) (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	krchicken 2003-10-21 06:30 pm UTC (link)
	is that icon a kabuki picture? (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	debxena 2003-10-21 06:37 pm UTC (link)
	Yes it is - good spotting! I adore the David Mack's artwork on the series, so I thought I'd use an icon. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	ciarrai 2003-10-21 03:02 pm UTC (link)
	I just looked at AMD. And they say you can't draw? Good God! Fans of that comic are the LAST people who should go around critizing artwork! Besides, yours is great! (Reply to this) (Thread)

	jenbooks 2003-10-21 03:48 pm UTC (link)
	/me toddles off to see AMD :::blink::: Huh? THAT is art? You're kidding right? The week I read wasn't even funny. Huh. (Reply to this) (Parent)

aeire
2003-10-21 03:51 pm UTC (link)

I've really got nothing against AMD. I don't really think it's a bad comic. I just don't think that it should be compared to mine. It's two entirely different things. And the author/artist is good at what he does - those are all original sprites and backgrounds that he did by hand, and they're really well-done. I appreciate the fact that he's not ripping game sprites like some of the comics I've seen out there - it shows that he really does care about this strip he's doing. It's not that his strip is better or worse than mine is - it's that the two are being compared like this, when doing that is like comparing apples and oranges. There's really no benefit or point in comparing the two of them. *shrugs*

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gordon_r_d
2003-10-21 03:05 pm UTC (link)

Stupid little gits.

I came to QoW through another webcomic and was immediately impressed by the art. I've seen plenty of comics (print and web) that look like they've been scrawled in a couple of minutes with a cheap pen. QoW is consistently *wonderful* to look at. So don't let any of the little buggers say you can't draw, because you damn well can.

And as if it wasn't lovely to look at, it's bloody funny too, consistently. I've tried cartooning, and am amazed that anyone can keep coming up with new ideas and jokes regularly for any length of time and still be great.

(bows in worship at feet)

I already pimped QoW to a couple of friends the other day along with a couple of other webcomics I like, I will promptly be pimping it again on my LJs.

I'd never heard of "A Modest Destiny" before today and after hearing about it's fans, I honestly have no wish to find out any more about it.

As for why they're comparing two completely different styles of strip? Sadly it's all too common these days, this rox, this sux! It's why I stay away from much of usenet and a lot of mailing lists these days. Ho hum.

So you just relax, enjoy your vacation. There'll be a mahoosive pile of us waiting for you when you come back, 'kay? :)

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occultobscura
2003-10-21 03:07 pm UTC (link)

Don't listen to them. Just a bunch of sexually-deprived fanboys attacking that which they don't understand. They are ONLY doing it to make you mad.

QoW is one of my favorite comics BECAUSE of the art. I *love* how you do faces; the expressiveness of your characters is amazing. My favorits strips are the ones where Kestrel freaks out over something and runs through a range of emotions. (like the Yuna strip, or when she finds her panties on eBay) Your characters have *real* character, and that takes huge talent.

And like others on this LJ, I hadn't even heard of Mall Monkeys or Modest Destiny until just now. So Nyah to them.

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	dungeoneer 2003-10-21 03:08 pm UTC (link)
	Votes posted. I'd been a bit slack with votes lately, so I apologise profusely. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	aeire 2003-10-21 03:12 pm UTC (link)
	Don't worry about it. Seriously. I generally only ask people to vote if they enjoy the strip, and leave it at that - and that's in the news section, where it stays. shrugs I have no problem with people not voting for me daily. I'm just tired of being told I've got a shit comic when I don't. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	occultobscura 2003-10-21 03:19 pm UTC (link)
	There'll always be those trying to tear you down. You know you don't have a shit comic, and we know it, and that's what matters. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	georgiamagnolia 2003-10-21 03:29 pm UTC (link)
	Went, voted. (Well,ok, I have been voting since I found you online. But will make sure to spread the love to others.) Thank you for the wonderful examples of your art. I especially liked the last one. (Reply to this)

catch22girl
2003-10-21 03:48 pm UTC (link)

I found your comic last week through a friend and *LOVED* it, enough that I had to read the entire archive. You're an amazing artist, I really relate to the stories and I love the main characters. Those pictures above are beautiful too, especially the one of the flowers.

Off to vote again...

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I love everyone...

brat1307
2003-10-21 04:18 pm UTC (link)

I Like both A modest destiny and QoW.
QoW is well drawn, has a great storyline, and is one of the only comics that can make me laugh. Most of all I love the aeire's art.
A Modest Destiny is funny too, and I Don't mind the sprites so much, since its the only sprite comic I read.
I Don't have anything bad to say about either comics or creators. They're both great. I know alot more work must go into QoW because it is drawn... but still. Both enjoyable.
^_^

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	Re: I love everyone... aeire 2003-10-21 04:28 pm UTC (link)
	Actually, I imagine just as much work goes into making the sprites. Hell, have you ever tried to draw something pixel by pixel? o.O Not an easy task, lemme tell ya. g (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	Re: I love everyone... brat1307 2003-10-21 06:08 pm UTC (link)
	I suppose so. But you're still both great ^_^ But I do think QoW is my favorite online webcomic =D (Reply to this) (Parent)

	theurge 2003-10-21 04:23 pm UTC (link)
	You've got nothing to worry about, lass...your quality and wit shine through everything. (Reply to this)

katmoonshaker
2003-10-21 04:24 pm UTC (link)

My two cents... the day I found your strip I spent Lady Along Knows How Much Time I Didn't Have going through the archives reading the ENTIRE thing!! I pimp it all the time and I vote every day. It's bookmarked under "funnystuff". Heck, I was hitting that button that wasn't working every day to make sure I wouldn't miss it when it started working again. To say you don't know how to draw is LUDICROUS!!!!! YOU ROCK!!!! Otherwise I would not run around with your work emblazoned on my chest. Seriously. I'll ignore the yo-yos who say otherwise... they are beneath my dignity... other artists' styles are other artists' styles. DUH. They can go bite a wild raging...

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	embeth 2003-10-21 04:49 pm UTC (link)
	Perchance I'm just ignorant, but why don't the people who bashed you notice that AMD is, well, sorta a sprite comic itself. Isn't it? (Reply to this)

	Aeire Owns mukkahai 2003-10-21 05:20 pm UTC (link)
	First off, "Bury him..."? You just did, hon. And after reading this, the following came out of my mouth after about twenty seconds of silent awe: "Fucking........A....." runs off to vote and to spread much love for the Queen Long live Aeire, the Queen of Wands! (Reply to this)

	faintheart 2003-10-21 05:20 pm UTC (link)
	What's the story behind the title "coffeething"? I don't see anything obvious to do with coffee in the art. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	aeire 2003-10-21 05:31 pm UTC (link)
	Hehehehe. I drew it one night while I was at coffee. shrugs (Reply to this) (Parent)

dane20010
2003-10-21 05:58 pm UTC (link)

What? I- They sai-... ARGH!!!!!

Ok as a member of a college marching band and having had my share of overzealous fans go after me just cause I'm wearing a University uniform, I think I have had enough experience to say people like that sicken me.

My respect for the community for 'Modest Destiny' has seriously dropped. Although I'm not gonna stop reading the comics over there. (cause I'm kinda hooked on that comic as well as a few others) QoW rates well above it in my book.

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	aeire 2003-10-21 06:20 pm UTC (link)
	Please keep reading his strip. I'm not asking anyone to boycott the thing - and to be fair, it's not all his fans. There's others out there as well, I'm sure. shrugs It's just that his are the most vocal about where they came from. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	chaobell 2003-10-21 07:32 pm UTC (link)
	So...lemme get this straight. AMD fen go on holy Jihad over Mall Monkeys starting shit with them, and see nothing wrong with doing the same thing to you? ...oh, fuck that shit. vote (Reply to this) (Thread)

aeire
2003-10-21 07:41 pm UTC (link)

Not quite the same thing. The forumites from Mall Monkeys went over to AMD and started posted some really, really horrible pictures (goats...y'know, that one, and the tub one, and I am SO not linking to them because they're *sick*). The author of the strip was naturally UPSET about this - because most of his readers are kids. We're talking 12 and up or something like that. They don't need to see this stuff. He got pissed off, again understandably, and contacted these people to let them KNOW he was upset. However, he *also* went and emailed the author/artist of Mall Monkeys - who had absolutely nothing to do with the 'attack' whatsoever. And he posted about it in a public thread - which really wasn't a good idea IMO - I figure if you've got an issue with somebody, you should resolve it in a private manner.

What *his* fans are doing - and I'm going to stress this, it's not just his fans, they're just the most vocal out of the bunch is not posting horrible pictures on my forum. They don't even venture ONTO my forum as far as I know. What they ARE doing is making snide comments and emails here and there about how my comic sucks, I can't draw, AMD is so much better than I am, on and on and on - and I'm sick of it. I'm just sick and tired of listening to it, and I'm sick and tired of putting up with it.

I don't want his strip boycotted. I don't want his forum attacked. I don't really *want* anything bad to happen to this guy at all. I just want people to vote for QoW, and show their support - because my comic is not and never WILL BE the 'crap' that these kids are saying it is, and I want to SHOW them that in a manner they understand.

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chaobell
2003-10-21 08:18 pm UTC (link)

Doops. Sarah, finish reading before posting in fit of pique plz kthx.

I've got nothing against AMD itself either--not my cup of tea, but, well, I don't exactly have room to talk shit about any but a select handful of really crap strips. :)

No, I'd just like to see your strip whoop ass on his fair and square.

Also, that latest "reviewer" can suck my girl-webcomic-artist dick.

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	Do not taunt happy fun redhead. unknownpoltroon 2003-10-21 07:53 pm UTC (link)
	Its amazing the depths of idiocy some people will go to for no good reason. (Reply to this)

	adriannevandal 2003-10-21 08:02 pm UTC (link)
	I thought AMD sounded familiar... I lost interest in it after about the 3rd strip. Some people just have no taste. It's sad.... AV (Reply to this)

cpip
2003-10-21 08:14 pm UTC (link)

Man. I read AMD, it's good, it's original sprite work. I've been pleased with it.

I read QoW. It's good, it's hand-drawn, etc, etc. I've been pleased with it.

I'm ashamed of AMD's apparently-vocal fans. WTF? Aeire, you CAN draw. You can write. You churn out good stuff. Is it as regular as some of us would like? No, but, hey, I won't be TRULY ecstatic until you're sitting in my living room producing the thing in real-time. ;)

I'm proud that QoW's fans haven't done crap like that. It's all about being more mature than they are.

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	bigangry 2003-10-21 10:14 pm UTC (link)
	I hate when webcomic zealot monkeys get into a holier-than-thou phase. You and I both know that in an ideal world all the fans would get along, but there's always the 12-year-old mentality of "my whatever's better than your whatever!" - the saddest thing is that we're never going to get rid of it. (Reply to this)

	ct_triste 2003-10-21 10:57 pm UTC (link)
	I enjoy the comic, even if I am too lazy to go view it every day. (I know, shame on me) The one complaint I have, which is probably because of my own stupidity, is that I havent found an RSS feed for it, so I can get it into my LJ. (Reply to this)

	lizkayl 2003-10-22 10:49 am UTC (link)
	Love your comic. Said it before, say it again. Love it. you rock. Ignore meanies, maybe the monkeys will play catch with their keyboards and they won't be able to bash you anymore. good monkeys. (Reply to this)

	chrismu 2003-10-28 12:06 am UTC (link)
	Having wandered the webcomic world rather extensively, QoW kicks severe ass. It and S*P are the only two that make me jittery without an update! (Reply to this)

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