Hobbes ([info]hobbesoxon) wrote in [info]puerh_tea,
@ 2006-11-24 13:55:00
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How do you dedicate teapots?
Tell me about your teapots, and how you've dedicated your different pots to different teas.

I'm in a bit of a pickle. I have a new teapot coming, bought solely because it looks pretty. I just realised that I probably don't strictly need it, in that I can't think of a major tea group that I need a pot for. So, I need you to help by telling me about your pots, and their dedications.

Hopefully, I'll find a major tea sub-group (that I drink frequently) for which I haven't yet got a pot. Optimally, I'll find several new genres of tea, allowing me justification to buy more pots!

Please show photos if possible. It's very hard to know what we're talking about without being able to visualise it! I appreciate your time in advance. :)



As a quick example, I'll describe my pots.

Aged Shengpu
This was a wedding gift from a gentleman on the Chinese half of our family. It's big (400ml), and so I usually only fill it up to about 30% capacity. It's heavy, smooth, and the pour is smooth. It's a bit Buddhist, being covered with lotus flowers, and has a carving of an ox (for enlightenment) appropriately hidden underneath. There are bats (fu, "blessing") on the lid, and it's topped with a cute bunny. The perfect mix of spiritual and lightheartedness for us here. :)

Our best pot gets our best tea, the old sheng. It's almost pouring pu'er from plain water at the moment, and all of the rubbing that it gets has promoted a nice shine on the outer skin. Dark clay for dark tea. Origin unknown.




Young Shengpu
As several of my regular sample-swappers will know, I often go too heavily with the shengpu, and it always tastes bitter. To counteract this, the slightly larger size of this pot, at 15cl, reduces the effect of this regular flaw in my brewing. It's not too absorbent clay, but does take the sharp edges off a brittle, feisty young shengpu. I like the greenish colour for the greenish tea. Less than $20, Yunnan Sourcing.




Shupu
Rich red clay for rich red tea, this is porous and quickly absorbs the flavour of shupu, enhancing richness of less accomplished brews. 12cl, a pleasantly small size, and holds it heat well. Less than $20, Yunnan Sourcing.




Gaoshan Wulong
A sweet little 10cl yellow pot for these light-coloured teas. Spherical shape matches the fisted shape of the leaves. Very porous (of the same family as the shupu pot, above) to absorb fragrances from more potent leaves. Less than $20, Yunnan Sourcing.




Roasted Wulongs
A flat 10cl pot for those flat leaves of the roasted wulongs that I usually drink in the mornings. Retains heat for surprisingly long periods of time.





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[info]marshaln
2006-11-24 03:03 pm UTC (link)
Since you're drinking red tea at the moment - dedicate a pot to red tea

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[info]hobbesoxon
2006-11-28 11:10 am UTC (link)
Thanks for the suggestion, I did exactly that. It's been soaking in hongcha all night, so we'll see how it looks when I get back home!

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[info]phyll_sheng
2006-11-25 03:14 am UTC (link)
Hobbes,

Gotta love that aged sheng pot! It looks well made with detailed work. I'm vacationing in San Diego at the moment, and I'll post pics of some of my pots when I get back.

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[info]walt_park
2006-11-26 06:35 pm UTC (link)
These are my teapots for home.



Group teapot mostly flavored, sheng pot, shu pot
high fired oolong, low fired oolong.

I dont have a pic of my teapots at work. I have another of the shu pot at work, a ball zhu ni for sheng, and a peach pot that I'm still waiting to dedicate.

For the most part, everything else gets brewed in gaiwans.

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[info]hobbesoxon
2006-11-28 11:09 am UTC (link)
Nice lighting! Do you... live in a nightclub, by any chance? :)

The one at the back-right looks very similar to my shupu pot - was it from YS?

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[info]walt_park
2006-11-30 09:54 pm UTC (link)
Nope, not a night club. I have under cabinet lighting in my kitchen.

Yep, that's the YS 120 ml ball pot. Strange that it somehow screams shu pot to everyone, since it does seem to be a common pot, and it also seem like most of us use it for shu.

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[info]kibi_kibi
2006-11-27 12:43 pm UTC (link)
Slightly aged sheng/mao cha (65ml)


Wuyi oolong (85ml)
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New sheng (100ml)
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Shu (100ml)
As above.

I also have a general teapot I use for all sorts of stuff, its not really a proper Yixing as it has some sort of coating sprayed onto the surface
Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting. I also have a Japanese style porcelain pot for milder green and white teas since I don't use gaiwans.

I am also getting a new pot (55ml) which I presume I should use for oolong.

PS
Hobbes, got your package, thanks for the joke (ahem)... :)

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[info]hobbesoxon
2006-11-28 11:11 am UTC (link)
Hehe, glad you got the package...

Where are you getting these tiny little pots from? 85ml and 55ml sound fascinating. I really love the appearance of the 85ml, above.

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[info]kibi_kibi
2006-11-28 11:17 am UTC (link)
Jing Tea Shop. http://www.jingteashop.com

I'm not sure how fascinating it is, but hopefully the 55ml won't turn out to be a joke, it wasn't all that cheap.

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[info]phyll_sheng
2006-11-30 12:29 am UTC (link)
How is your 65ml sheng pot? I was eyeing it on JTS. I like its shape very much.

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[info]kibi_kibi
2006-11-30 01:10 pm UTC (link)
Probably not all that suited to Pu-erh, it was recommended for use with Oolong afterall. Pours well, clogs up from time to time I guess.

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[info]exstns
2007-01-17 05:13 pm UTC (link)
I know that this is quite an ancient post, but have you received your 55ml pot? Any comments? I'm holding a 55ml that I just received.. and I'm a bit shocked/fascinated... this thing is tiny tiny and I still can't decide on what to use it for. What about you?

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[info]kibi_kibi
2007-01-17 06:47 pm UTC (link)
Hi,
I tried using it with Oolong (as was recommended) and then after a while I finally decided to use it for Shuo Pu-erh, which is a bit strange, but it works rather well. Provided one puts in the correct amount of leaf it works I think, though it can stop flowing well if one misses the mark just a little. I used it to brew this and as you can see in the picture there the amount of tea made is rather small...

I think the size is a little small though, 80~100ml is a bit more versatile really... but I like small pot ;-)

So maybe oolong works well for that size.. What are you using it for?

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[info]exstns
2007-01-17 06:55 pm UTC (link)
I thought of using it with Pu, but it just didn't really look like a puerh pot, so I've decided to use it for some oldish oolongs... but even with that, the size is a bit too small for serious drinking. It's nice, I like the small size factor, but the usability is defintely not the best. Also they are not very cheap. Maybe I'll love it more once I start using it more often. Thanks for the info anyways.

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[info]phyll_sheng
2006-11-28 10:11 am UTC (link)
Hobbes, as promised...I just got the chance to take pics of my humble Yixings. I've been obtaining quite a few of them in the past year for several types of tea that I love to drink. When I'm on a binge for one type of tea, then that pot gets used often while the others collect dust. I think the pics would pretty much tell you how I group my Yixing pots...though I don't think I have a hard and fast rule. Currently, my sheng pots take all young and old pu from all appellations. I'm thinking of dedicating some pots for young pu and older pu (> 7yrs). For oolongs, I have dedicated pots for Dan Cong, Da Hong Pao, Nongxiang TGY and Qingxiang TGY.

(From top right corner going down, clockwise):

1. My sheng pots (old and young, all appellations). The rooster one (~400ml) is my pride and joy because it’s quite well-made and pours excellently. It's basically my daughter's pot, who is a rooster. I got it in Guangzhou and I usually use it when there are more than 4 people at the table. The smaller, black one (~200 ml) is for 1 - 4 persons drinking...from Guang/Houde.

2. My shou pu pot (~150ml)...got it in Guangzhou, too.

3. Dan Cong pot (~120ml), which was "bathing" before being cleaned when I took the photo.

4. Left: any wuyi (70ml), center: Da Hong Pao (~100+ ml), left: shui xian (~100ml).

5. High fire TGY, ~150ml Xishi pot and ~80ml Shui Pin, the latter for drinking solo.

6 & 7. My trusty sidekicks. The water buffallo sits happily in the waste bowl and the froggy on top of the tray.

8. Darjeeling pot, which sometimes gets used for Oriental Beauty oolong as well (~400+ ml)

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[info]phyll_sheng
2006-11-28 10:14 am UTC (link)
Correction:

4. The right (dark brown) pot is the shui xian pot.

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[info]hobbesoxon
2006-11-28 11:12 am UTC (link)
I love the Xishi. So much so, in fact, that I recently bought one from M. Erler after reading about it in your blog, so thanks!

I'm also looking for a new genre for my next pot, and I think shuixian might do the trick. That, or dahongpao. Thanks for the ideas, and for the great photos. :)

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[info]phyll_sheng
2006-11-28 09:00 pm UTC (link)
I'm glad you did! I should note that the 2 Xishi pots in the bottom 2 pictures are made by one same potter, and I obtained them from M. Erler. The smaller (for Da Hong Pao) is zhuni and the slightly larger (NX TGY) is purple clay. The lighting makes their colors look the same and I should have used something to scale their sizes. Anyhoo, the Xishi's are excellently made pots, and I couldn't be happier with their classic aesthetics and the way they perform.

The only problem I have is with my shou pot, which chokes quite badly in the beginning of each pour. And I think I paid too much for it...I should have bargained harder (paid RMB 300). Funny, in the store, it didn't choke at all...good "zhu shui", but at home it did.

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[info]lionel_france
2006-12-01 04:27 pm UTC (link)
I have 2 teapots for pu er. But I haven't dedicated any to one particuliar family of pu er. I use both of them for sheng or shu, for aged or young pu er...What do you think of that ?
Can I post pics of my pots ? how ?
Lionel, Paris

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[info]kibi_kibi
2006-12-01 05:47 pm UTC (link)
Don't you think that sheng shu are really different in taste? I guess they might complement each other :)

Just a note, probably said many times. The easiest way to display pictures is to upload them somewhere like Photobucket and (in the Photobucket case) then copy the contents of the "Tag" field of the desired picture into your reply post.

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[info]phyll_sheng
2006-12-03 04:41 am UTC (link)
Hi Lionel,

If you have two teapots for pu'er, and if you drink sheng and shu equally often, then my humble suggestion is to at least dedicate one for sheng, the other for shu.

I echo Kibi2's recco on posting pictures here. Please do post them! We love tea porn. I use photobucket and just copy-paste the tag coding. It's very simple.

Cheers,

Phyll

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[info]lionel_france
2006-12-04 09:27 am UTC (link)
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Here are my 2 teapots...What do you think about them ? The one on the chachuan is a taiwanese one, quite thin walls, 10 cl, made in 1999 by a potter called Yang Wen Ji...The other one is very different, thicker walls, 10 cl, granulous, made between 1966-1976 according to the seal printed below...With the same tea, they produce quite different liquors, that 's why I dont't dedicate one for a particuliar family...I have many friend in France, pu er lovers too, who do as I do...

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[info]phyll_sheng
2006-12-04 05:03 pm UTC (link)
I believe it's all personal and if you like what you do then you should keep doing it. Sheng and shu do have very different taste profile, in my humble opinion, and I think they deserve separate Yixing.

I love your pots, especially the thin-walled one! Isn't that from M. Erler's potter in Taiwan...the Bao Tai, I think?

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[info]kibi_kibi
2006-12-05 01:44 am UTC (link)
Very cool pots!

It does seem like france is quite a Pu-erhy place :)

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Pot Gallery and a sidenote on France
[info]xiefeilaga
2006-12-05 02:18 am UTC (link)
Great pots, folks. Here's a thought, how about a teapot gallery that can be linked from the main page, rather than a post that will eventually slip into the archives. That way we can keep updating when we find cool pots and whatnot.
And on to France. I have found that there are a lot of puer drinkers in France. One of the reasons is that France has a long history in Yunnan, from early expiditions (you're welcome for the azaleas, camellias and rhododendrons), to "China's back door" with the Kunming-Hanoi railroad, rubber plantations and vineyards.

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Re: Pot Gallery and a sidenote on France
[info]lionel_france
2006-12-05 11:56 am UTC (link)
Yes, there are many pu er fans in France.
My 2 pots come from La maison des 3 thés, maybe you've heard of it...
How many pots do you have for your pu er ? 4 ? young sheng/aged sheng/young shu/aged shu ? An old sheng pu er can be close from a shu, so why should the distinction between sheng and shu be the basis to dedicate the teapots ?

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Re: Pot Gallery and a sidenote on France
[info]phyll_sheng
2006-12-06 12:49 am UTC (link)
I've heard of the La Maison in writings.

Shu tries to immitate old sheng, but it rarely -- if ever -- manages to come close, in my humble opinion. I'm not saying shu is inferior than sheng. It's all personal taste. I just think they're different.

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Re: Pot Gallery and a sidenote on France
[info]phyll_sheng
2006-12-06 12:54 am UTC (link)
Oh, and currently I dedicate 3 pots for pu: big sheng, small sheng, and small shu. I'm planning to add 2 more Yixings, so it will be: big young sheng, small young sheng, big older sheng, small older sheng, and small shu.

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Re: Pot Gallery and a sidenote on France
[info]lionel_france
2006-12-07 11:23 am UTC (link)
what do you mean by big/small ? is it related to quality ? ..?

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Re: Pot Gallery and a sidenote on France
[info]phyll_sheng
2006-12-08 01:07 am UTC (link)
Oh, sorry for not being clear. I have a 200ml pot for 1-4 people, which I consider my small sheng pot. Then I have a larger 400ml for > 4 people, the big sheng pot.

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[info]phyll_sheng
2006-12-14 07:55 am UTC (link)
Hello Hobbes,

Totally unrelated to the topic at hand. Could you kindly remind me of your mailing address please? My email is phyllsheng@hotmail.com

I have something going your way but I have seemed to have misplaced your address.

Thank you.

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