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A Dancong Tasting
I joined the throng of teaheads recently at Tea Habitat for a tasting of aged and new dancong. Not a pu'er post, but I invoke droit du signeur.



Aged Oolongs...

Aged oolong is always a strange animal. Anyone here who's followed Marshaln's blog recently will understand it when I say that no two aged oolongs are identical, and rarely are two aged oolongs terribly alike. Oolongs of the same type (dancong, for example) of similar oxidation and roasting often end up entirely different after years have worked on them. My guess is the greatest factor here is environment and storage: some of these are reroasted occasionally, some undergo a preparatory roast before aging and a final roast after aging, some aren't roasted signficantly at all. And beyond roasting, humidity can wreak havoc on an aged oolong. Lamentably, aging oolong is most popular in humid climates such as Guangdong/Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Fujian. Go figure.


Imen (far left) and attendees pondering aged dancong...

I'd had aged yancha, aged tie guan yin, aged dongding and aged baozhong teas. This was my first occasion trying an aged dancong. I had an idea of what to expect from previous aged oolongs, whose only shared characteristic across all teas was mellowing, sweetness enhancement, and some sort of fragrance mutation. My guesses weren't far off from what I experienced at Tea Habitat.


Danica takes her turn behind the gongfu table...
...and is happy with her results:


We tried aged dancong from 1994, 1996, and 1986. All were of varying oxidations, it seemed, or maybe aged in different shops. That they were aged was incidental rather than intentional; many aged oolongs share their forlorn story of neglect: too good to throw away, not good enough to sell the whole quantity in one year. Which leaves us with three dancong teas, the youngest 11 years old. Imen, the proprietor of Tea Habitat and, in my opinion, the Queen of Dancong tea in the United States, presented the teas without introduction. She only spoke about them when I pressed her: why were these chosen to be aged? How did they choose a dancong to be aged? What was considered ideal condition? Her answers were vague and cryptic, but amounted to the tale of disregard above: the gist of it was: here there is no why; there is only tea.


Imen will kill me for posting this photo.

So the verdict on the aged dancong? They're mellower but still very fragrant. The fragrance and flavors no longer reveal themselves as obvious "xingren" "milan" or other varietals: each aged dancong seemed like dancong remixed. The roast took a stronger role in the flavor, but the essential dancong lightness remained unchanged. The fragrance remained strong but out of reach of pigeonholing. Dancong is the doppelganger of teas when young, preferring to mime another flavor than yield its own. When aged, are these muted, sultry floral and fruity flavors the essence dancong hides behind its mimickry, or is it another ruse?


Ming has something to say, y'all

We had three other dancong teas that day, one called "Zei Shi / Thief Shit", one called "Chuan du lao ming cong" (a top 10 wudong bush), and another called "Bor Tou / Ginger Flower". Of the three, I liked the Thief Shit the best. Previously in Imen's shop I'd adored the qi of the chuan du lao ming cong, but the fragrance was off and it wasn't as powerful as I remembered. The bor tou is soothing, but when Imen left me a sample, I found it hard to brew it as well as she had.


Qi, the child in this picture, giggled with glee as said "Thief Shit" and "Shit Tea"...his mother hates us now.

We had one aged wuyi tea brought by Will, quite nice but a bit heavy on the charcoal. Danica brought a "1990s Red Iron Cake" from Grandtea, a tea that is probably fake. The tea had been rewrapped, it lacks a neifei, and it was a traditional press instead of a tie bing as advertised. Unless the wuxing pu'er yearbooks prove me wrong, I'm inclined to think it's fake. However, it's not terrible for wet stored tea.

I felt this way too, very happy (left) and meditative about the tea (right).





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[info]marshaln
2007-12-07 01:30 pm UTC (link)
Indeed, there isn't much reason why people would deliberately age oolongs, unless you've got a lot of money sitting around. It costs a lot to sit on oolongs -- they cost a lot. Puerh (back in the day anyway) were dirt cheap. A shop can't afford to sit on aged oolongs for very long.

So what we usually get are leftovers from sales. There are those who will tell you that they deliberately aged them (and some indeed do, like Mr. Chan at BTH) but those are rare, and only affordable for people in places like Hong Kong -- where the relative cost of aging an oolong isn't great.

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[info]tea_obsession
2007-12-07 09:26 pm UTC (link)
I'll attempt to kill you on Tuesday, you better show up!

The Thief shit 06 was roasted at 80 degrees C for 30 minutes before brewing. The heat reactivated the sugar, enzyme and other goodies. It taste flat when I tried it without re-roasting.

Last time we had the Chuan Du Lao Ming Chun 07 spring was before Sep? The reason behind it is most of the same year DC needs a little re-roasting around Moon Festival - sep-ish. It will taste much better in March. Now that we are well into Dec, the flavor as predicted has subsided, plus it was in a plastic bag all this time. Will brought over some of his stash the next day, I re-roasted it using the above method, the flavor blossomed again, however mellow out quite a bit.

Chao Zhou locals have a saying, 藏得深红三倍价,家家卖弄隔年陈, price triples when stored away tea turns deep red, every family shows off teas of previous years.

If you can get any of the LATA gang who has the 05 Da Yu Qi Mu Cong to share their stash with a little re-roasting, it should taste even better than the thief shit. *hint*

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[info]bearsbearsbears
2007-12-07 09:55 pm UTC (link)
You're welcome to use any of the photos on your blog :)

Thanks for the dancong info. When will you write the Dancong Compendium?

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[info]tea_obsession
2007-12-07 10:21 pm UTC (link)
It will be some time next week if I get to it. This weekend is packed with parties and tea class.

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[info]tea_obsession
2007-12-08 07:58 am UTC (link)
I just thought of the agenda for the next LATA meeting. Aged tea comparison: pu-erh, DC, Wuyi rock, Baozhong. I heard of 30 yrs Lung Jing believe it or not. But not sure where to find it.

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[info]bearsbearsbears
2007-12-08 08:05 am UTC (link)
i had aged yunnan green tea with sebastien of jing tea shop. he could probably get us some of that if we asked. otherwise, i know stephane mentioned that teaparker aged long jing, but that probably means paying an arm and a leg for what's possibly just stale green tea. ;)

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[info]tea_obsession
2007-12-08 08:17 am UTC (link)
Do you think you can get some green in time for the next meeting? :P

Who has aged Wuyi rock teas?

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[info]bearsbearsbears
2007-12-08 08:24 am UTC (link)
when's the next meeting?

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[info]tea_obsession
2007-12-08 08:40 am UTC (link)
nothing has been scheduled yet... let say in a month?

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[info]theearnedarf
2007-12-07 09:57 pm UTC (link)
I've got the '05... no problem! The '96 aged one tastes great (tried it the other morning)

I believe (Marshaln can maybe answer better) that the aged one (a sample from him, the unlabeled one, so I guess #4) is an aged baozhong, not yan cha, but I could be wrong.

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[info]marshaln
2007-12-08 05:36 am UTC (link)
Baozhong indeed.

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[info]marshaln
2007-12-08 05:36 am UTC (link)
If you compare the way the tea finishes in your mouth you'll see it's substantially different from a yancha.

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[info]tea_obsession
2007-12-07 09:49 pm UTC (link)
oh, ideal condition for aging DC is sealed thick foil lined bags, for as long as you like or as long as you live. If not opened from time to time, it does not require re-roasting. In my experience, oolong and pu with a little short roasting before tasting seems to magnify the aroma and flavor more then not.

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"Here there is no why; there is only tea."
[info]dogma_l
2007-12-08 10:31 pm UTC (link)
This is brilliant. Can someone please provide a Chinese version, and perhaps even characters? I'd like to have a sign calligraphed for my sipping' station.

Thanks-

DM

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Lexicographical request
[info]lewperin
2007-12-09 12:03 am UTC (link)
We had three other dancong teas that day, one called "Zei Shi / Thief Shit", one called "Chuan du lao ming cong" (a top 10 wudong bush), and another called "Bor Tou / Ginger Flower".

Would you happen to have the Chinese characters for any or all of these three? I tried googling for Thief Shit as 贼屎 but found nothing tea-related.

/Lew
---
Lew Perin | perin@acm.org | http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html

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Re: Lexicographical request
[info]bearsbearsbears
2007-12-09 12:16 am UTC (link)
bug Imen for them...? teahabitat at yahoo dot com

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Re: Lexicographical request
[info]tea_obsession
2007-12-09 07:21 am UTC (link)
贼屎 is the correct Chinese name of this tea. However only one tree is named after it and producing very limited quantity. Like most of the TRUE single bush DCs, their names are not widely known, unlike commercially produced teas.

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Re: Lexicographical request
[info]lewperin
2007-12-09 04:02 pm UTC (link)
贼屎 is the correct Chinese name of this tea.

Thanks very much! But I'm greedy enough to ask if you have the Chinese characters for Bor Tou and Chuan Du, too.

However only one tree is named after it and producing very limited quantity. Like most of the TRUE single bush DCs, their names are not widely known, unlike commercially produced teas.

Right. If you take it literally, "Dan Cong" is usually about as truthful as "monkey picked". But I wonder why nobody would have tried to propagate cuttings of such a good bush.

/Lew --- Lew Perin | perin@acm.org |
http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html

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