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Pokemon Ranch Question

Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:10:31 GMT

I know this is probably mentioned somewhere online, but I couldn't find it when I searched, so I decided to ask here...

If I put a Pokemon into My Pokemon Ranch, does it count as a trade? Will the Pokemon not love me anymore? Because there are several Pokemon that I have that love me a lot and I wouldn't want them to stop loving me, so I've been apprehensive about taking my favorites over to Pokemon Ranch, despite how much that I want to play with them.

Thanks in advance for replies, I'm genuinely concerned about not having my favorites love me :D

Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:27:54 GMT

A few quick questions, out of curiosity...

-Can you attatch mail to Pokémon that you put on GTS?
-Does the mail message have to come from those stupid select phrases? (I've not bothered with mail since gen 2 and I'm currently flat broke in-game)
Cheers guys.

Strategy Memo Poll #20

Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:58:44 GMT

View Poll: For the next Strategy Memo...

Seafood! We've got some very under-used Under-Used Pokemon in the poll this week - heck, Crawdaunt sees less use than Magikarp in some circles. But anyway, we've got Kingler, a powerful physical attacker; Crawdaunt, his slower but more variable cousin; Sharpedo, the high-speed shark with jets in its bum; and Qwilfish, one of only two Poison/Water Pokemon in the game.

Cleaning House Again

Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:08:07 GMT

Hi everyone! I need to make space in my boxes... it's amazing how quick you run out of space once you try to breed pokemon/complete the national dex/just become rather addicted to pokemon again... haha. I put pokemon down for a whole year before I decided I wanted to re-open pandora's box XD But anyway, I have a lot of babbies and Kanto imports to hand out... three boxes worth. Times like these I wish I had a Wii + pokemon ranch ;_;

Tarous - Lv. 1

Naughty x2
Rash
Quirky
Hardy

Lv. 25
Naive

Wobuffet Lv. 1
(F) Quiet
(F) Sassy w/ PKRS
(M) Lonely
(M) Mild

Hopip - Lv. 9 w/ PKRS
(F) Sassy ON HOLD
(M) Quirky

Lv. 10
(M) Mild

Sandshrew Lv. 1

w/ Metal Claw
(F) Sassy ON HOLD

Dratini w/ Flamethrower
(F) Mild
w/ Thunder Wave
(F) Careful

Staryu
Bashful
Brave

Baltoy Lv. 15
Mild

Shellos Lv. 1 w/ Mirror Coat, Counter
Relaxed
Quirky
Gentle

Pinsir Lv. 52
(M) Gentle
(M) Hasty

List of singles and pairs

Drifloon w/ PKRS Lv. 22
Bashful (F)
Lonely (F)

Growlithe (M) Lv. 2 Hasty
Aerodacyl (M) Lv. 20 Jolly
Exeggcute (F) Lv. 25 Adamant (ON HOLD)

Ralts (F) Lv. 1 w/ Shadow Ball, Dream Eater - Serious
Delibird (F) Lv. 33 Serious
Glameow (F) Lv. 40 Hasty PKRS
Luvdisc (M) Lv. 1 Mild (ON HOLD)
Heracross (F) Lv. 15 Gentle
Kabuto (M) Lv. 20 Docile
Clefairy (F) Lv. 8 Careful
Jigglypuff (F) Lv. 5 Serious
Nirodian(F) Lv. 24 Naive
Miltank (F) Lv. 17 Timid w/ PKRS
Aipom (F) Lv. 1 Quirky
Ledian (F) Lv. 52 Brave
Magnemite Lv. 29 Sassy
Butterfree (M) Lv. 30 Quirky
Wynaut (F) Lv. 1 Lonely
Tyrouge (M) Lv. 5 Calm
Omanyte (M) Lv. 20 Brave
Swinub (F) Lv. 25 Modest

In return, I'm not really looking for anything special...fodder is cool by me. I love babbies with egg moves/TM moves, though. I do have a wish list, and if you happen to have anything extra to throw my way I would love it :D

Pokemon List
186 - Politoed
~~199 - Slowking~~
~~357 - Troplus~~
367 - Huntail
368 - Gorebyss
466 - Electivire
467 - Magmortar

Item List
Rare Candy
Heart Scales
Adamant Orb
Deepsea Scale
Deepsea Tooth
Magmarizer
Electrizer

TM List
27 Return
~~30 Shadow Ball~~
~~35 Flamethrower~~
51 Roost
~~53 Energy Ball~~
58 Endure
61 Will-o-wisp
66 Payback
68 Giga Impact
71 Stone Edge
73 Thunder Wave
74 Gyro Ball
75 Swords Dance
89 U-turn

~~The last thing on the agenda would be a tradeback for my Haunter and two Gravelers :) I can offer items and evolution stones in exchange for that.~~

[Status] taking a break! leave a comment though
x-posted to pokewifi

Platinum Pre-Order :O

Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:20:07 GMT

Who is importing Platinum and has already pre-ordered it? I ordered mine yesterday.

I ask so that way when it comes out we can help each other and such!

And you drop in a pitch black hole...

Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:52:56 GMT

I jumped into the underground, and came out, barely alive with A LOT OF treasures.
In what...? Twenty minutes? :O

So, ever gone on a treasure spree running about ~~even though I badly want to cycle around~~ the Underground? How much stuff did you find? Let's share.

Oh, for the record, I've dug up 11 Fire Stones, in that short while... |D

EDIT: Oh, I was just reading viperpaktu's post about the lovely Shedninja, which got me thinking for that 1 HP ghost thingumajig - What happens if you use a Revive on that poor little thing? How much HP would he heal? o_o Who wants to try!? xD

EDIT AGAAAIN: Blogcrew, anybody?

Help me evolve my Seadra?

Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:50:39 GMT

Pretty please? I finally have a dragon scale for it to hold, so now I'm looking for someone willing to do a quick tradeback to help me evolve it.

I have a -bunch- of different pokemon I could give you in return, just ask to see what I have. I also have berries and heart scales if need be.

Cali FC 1031 9857 7471

Edit: all done. Thank you.

Rare Mew Pez dispenser

Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:20:31 GMT

I saw this at the Pez Museum in Easton, Pennsylvania.

Apparently it was one of few original pokemon pez dispensers that had pokeball shaped pez inside.
I've seen D/P ones, but they seem to only be sold in Japan.
I asked to buy it, but they refused.
I say we plan an elaborate break in and take it.
It's too awesome for a museum that is, all in all, less awesome then it.

Shedinja

Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:02:07 GMT

I just have to say...I have a new found, HUGE love for Shedinja. :D I'm taking on Wallace in Emerald, and I've used Shedinja (who is currently level 20) to beat Wailord and Gyarados, since my Shedinja knows Toxic and neither of those two have an attack that can hurt Shedinja... just poison and watch as your little fella kicks the crap out of much stronger pokemon. :D!!

Shedinja, you'll forever have a place in my heart.

P.S. I have no leaf or electric pokemon in my lineup in Emerald. All I have is:

Level 50 Flygon,
Level 40 Torkoal,
Level 48 Swampert,
Level 41 Gyarados, (Though, this one is mainly used as an HM slave for Dive and Waterfall.)
Level 46 Aggron,
Level 20 Shedinja.

So...I suppose you can say that Shedinja is my saving grace. XD

So far I've used it to take down two pokemon... Swampert has a move called "Mud Shot" which for some reason is super effect against Tentacruel. My Flygon has Fly, so that took care of Ludicolo, and Swampert's Surf (as well as 3 or 4 hyper potions) took care of Whiscash.

Only one I might have a problem with is Milotic, and that's only if it hits Shedinja with a Toxic. (otherwise it won't be able to hit.)

Sorry for the long entry. >_>; Just wanted to show my new found love and praise for a Shedinja that knows toxic. :D

Young Pokemon?

Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:04:41 GMT

To go with blackjackrocket's topic about groups of Pokemon, what are the proper terms for the young?

I've referred to a character of mine who trains a Sneasel as "raising it from a cub", and I assume one would call young Meowth "kittens" (Skitty, of course, would be "skittens"). Teddiursa, of course, would be cubs, but how about some of the more unusual Pokemon? Like "sprout" for a young Bellsprout? "Seedling" for a young Oddish?

Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:49:14 GMT

So what are groups of different pokemon species called? Like would a group of Unown be an Alphabet? A Lexicon? And if a group of Murkrow is a Murder, is a group of Honchkrow then called a Hit?

...and how about a Slurp of Lickitung? A Spark of Pichus? ~~A Carton of Togepis?~~

Charizard Plush

Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:52:19 GMT

I have a dumb question...

I know someone who has a HUGE Charizard plush from back in the day. This thing has to be about 2 foot tall. It's awesome!!!!

What would a Charizard Plush of that size be worth? More than $100?

Thanks!

Old generation Pokemon evolutions in D/P

Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:20:09 GMT

Hey guys, I was wondering what you guys think of all the new evolutions from the first gen? Like Magmortar, Likilicky, Electabuzz and so on...I think it kinda kills the magic of those first gen Pokemon, but that could just be me. Your thoughts?

Ebay auctions, DS PIMPIN

Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:33:19 GMT

X-posted to pkmncollectors and pokemon

I put the contents of most of what was left from my sales on ebay, though I've got two things for direct sale underneath the cut - a used copy of Pokemon Ranger and a Celebi headscarf you can actually wear. ^_^

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZshiningQ5fumbreon

Two more pictures and pricing for the game and scarf are under the cut.

Paypal only please - I won't hold items for any longer than 24 hours. If you're in the US, your package will be mailed within a few days. International packages won't be mailed until I am back in town (around August 2nd.) Domestic shipping (USPS first-class, no insurance unless requested) starts at $2 base price; international starts at $3 base price.

I may refuse to sell to anyone for any reason, but generally only for negative feedback or rudeness.

Celebi Headscarf (flawless) - $8

Pokemon Ranger (used) - $13

Also, pimping my DS with Skymin skin, since somehow my SMJ box showed up at my house (without warning, even though the USPS website told me it had been returned and I hadn't heard anything for over a week!).

I've got a Skymin DS stylus and strap coming to attach to it - I'll probably keep Latias on there as well, since I love her too. XD

On the DS are the Shaymin TOMY figure and Keshi poke, along with the Umbreon battrio. X3 Must not buy any more. I've already got Raikou coming, but I still want Espeon and Shaymin. (I don't even know why - I can't play the game. ;_;)

And, to make this post fun - Do you guys theme your DSes with Pokemon stuff? Stickers, charms, skins, etc? Or do you have a special limited Pokemon DS yourself? - (I was impressed by what I saw when I asked the collector's community about this a few months ago. XD)

Battles? Trades?

Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:42:48 GMT

Hay guys!

I'm bored so does anyone want to battle me? 6 on 6 Level 100.

Also I have like two boxes of Munchlaxes with sweet egg moves. I would like to trade one for a female Snorunt. :D

FC: 2363 2137 3021

Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:11:11 GMT

So I have a question about Mystery Dungeon 2. I keep seeing fanarts of it that involve the Marauder's mask (you know, the bad guy from movie 4). Someone told me that there's a "golden mask" in the game but it doesn't look like his (which kinda has the appearence of a skull). And then someone *else* told me that it's in the Japanese version.

So *is* it in the Japanese version? If so, why would they change it? And is it the same item? Because the site the first person showed me said that the golden mask raises the chances of recruting new party members, and sure Marauder was a star agent, but he was also a traitor. So the implications of that are somewhat interesting.

AR Trouble?

Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:54:26 GMT

I'm not sure if this post is on-topic/allowed (it's about my Action Replay, but I bought it for my Diamond game, so perhaps it counts?), so mods delete it if necessary D:

Today I bought myself an Action Replay at Target (whoo). I think it's an older version because there is a large portion that sticks out rather than a small portion or none at all. So I put it in, and it loads normally, sending me to the AR screen. I stick my copy of Diamond in the second slot, and my fingers somehow slip. The AR comes out of the DS slot. I quickly put it back in, and notice (barely) that it says "Insert DS Game Card" even though Diamond is already inserted. I shrug and switch my DS Lite off and on again...and learn that my DS doesn't even recognize the AR! And here I am now, freaking out because I think I just wasted $20. So far I have tried:

1) A + B + Start + Select
2) Blowing on my DS card slot repeatedly (I still am X_X)
3) Holding the AR tightly in
4) Starting with Pokemon Diamond already in the second slot

Please help me D: Also, I don't know if it's relevant, but my Diamond game works fine when I load it.

Note: It just loads to the main screen. I don't see the words "The product is not..." etc.

Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:35:41 GMT

I've recently become a fan of Dragonair, but I don't really like Dragonite.

So I'm kind of having trouble deciding on a moveset. Now you're thinking, why would you do that? Well, I'm just gonna pretend Dragonite doesn't exist and Dragonair and its stats are all I've got.

Dragonair's physical movepool kinda... sucks, but it has sort of okayish Attack and Speed that can be boosted pretty nicely with Dragon Dance. So should I just try to do something with Dragon Dance, or make it a mixed/special attacker?

And yes, I know that I should probably just evolve it for a better movepool and stats, but... I don't want to and that's the whole point of this post... D:

Edit: Would it be worth it to get a Dratini in Emerald from FR/LG and teach it like, Ice Punch from the Frontier move tutor? More important, is it possible? I'm pretty sure it is, but just making sure.

Card Grab bags

Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:15:49 GMT

If I were to sell a bunch of cards in a grab bag, would anyone be interested?

I have between 200-300 cards that I don't want. And I don't know where else to get rid of them.

I can do 15 grab bags to start. Each one will have 1 random Holo, and a mix of 14 Japanese and American Common cards.

The cost includes shipping:

1 bag - $3.00
2 bags - $5.00
3 bags - $7.00
4 bags - $9.00
5 bags - $11.00

If you would be interested, let me know. I do take Paypal.

Thanks!
:)

Pokemon Ranch Questions

Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:50:31 GMT

So I just got Ranch.

Um, how do do you level it up? D: It says 'next level: 7' What, 7 Pokemon deposited? At first I dumped the maximum you could have in there, nothing. Removed so I had deposited 7, nothing. Made it so the number of Pokemon in there was 7, nothing.

Am I doing something wrong? :/ So far this game is proving to be rather disappointing...

Strategy Memo - #487 Giratina

Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:46:52 GMT

Giratina, the Renegade Pokemon

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Weak to Ghost, Dragon, Dark and Ice.
Resistant to Grass, Water, Fire, Poison, Bug, and Electric.
Immune to Normal and Fighting.

Base stats (HP / Atk / Def / Sp Atk / Sp Def / Spd)
150 / 100 / 120 / 100 / 120 / 90

Abilities
Pressure: Moves that affect this Pokemon use 2 PP instead of 1. If this Pokemon is in the lead position, wild Pokemon encounters are increased.

This Pokemon is classified as Uber.

Opinion
   One of the more bizarre Pokemon introduced in D/P, Giratina's unique typing makes it the only Pokemon weak to both of its own types, while its appearance makes it the only Pokemon that looks like the vengeful spirit of Freddy the Inchworm. One of the premier walls in Ubers, Giratina is a great counter to some of the biggest threats in the game, including a large number of movesets for the omnipotent Arceus.

   With a huge defensive stats and some very solid resistances, Giratina has no trouble at all taking just about anything the vast majority of Ubers can throw at him. On top of this, the ghost dragon's movepool includes a variety of moves that can soften blows aimed at him. Will o Wisp in particular is a popular choice, as it makes life tough for tanks and sweepers alike. And with moves like Draco Meteor, Aura Sphere, and Earth Power, Giratina's offensive ability isn't bad, either.

   Giratina does have a couple serious issues, though. Ghost/Dragon is a useful type combination in a number of areas, giving it some very useful immunities, but it also makes Giratina weak to some of the most common attacks in Ubers. His huge defenses go a long way towards making up for this, but combined with its other major weakness - the lack of a reliable one-turn recovery move - Giratina can have trouble taking some boosted attacks.

   In the end, Giratina's flexibility and truly amazing defenses go a long way towards making up for any problems it encounters, but it could be tough if Will o Wisp misses or if the foe has a way to erase Giratina's Calm Mind boosts.

Baphomet
Giratina @Leftovers
Bold / Impish, Pressure
252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Spd
-Dragon Pulse / Dragon Claw
-Will o Wisp
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
   A frightening wall, Giratina has no trouble at all taking hits from just about any physical attacker you'd care to name. His weaknesses to Ghost, Dark, and Dragon are a bit unfortunate, but his immunity to Normal, as well as a resistance to Electric, Water, and Fire make him a great choice to wall Pokemon like Rayquaza and certain Arceus.

   Normally, a status move on a Sleep Talk Pokemon would be a bad idea, since it becomes less likely that Sleep Talk will pick a useful move if the defending Pokemon is already Burned. However, in this case, Will o Wisp is a necissary evil, since it drops a foe's Atk so low that even the most powerful physical attackers won't be able to touch Giratina. It also makes offensive threats think twice about switching in on Giratina while it's asleep, since there's no guarantee they won't get burned as they come in.

Baal Devar
Giratina @Leftovers
Bold, Pressure
252 HP, 240 Def, 16 Sp Atk
-Dragon Pulse
-Calm Mind
-Rest
-Will o Wisp / Sleep Talk
   Using a Calm Mind set can give you a jump on foes who assume you're running a pure physical wall set, and makes Giratina a very solid mixed wall. Try to get this into play against a physical attacker - chances are they'll switch out, giving you a free Calm Mind.

   The fourth slot of this set is a bit of a conundrum. With Will o Wisp, Giratina will be able to take hits on both sides of the spectrum with little difficulty, giving it the ability to wall just about anything you'd care to name. Unfortunately, this is where Giratina's lack of a recovery move really comes into play. Without Sleep Talk, Giratina will be completely immoble for two turns when using Rest - not a good idea when you're facing things like Swords Dance Groudon or Dragon Dance Latios. If you do decide to use Will o Wisp instead of Sleep Talk, be very careful about where and when you Rest - the last thing you want to do is give your foe a chance to set up.

Mastema
Giratina @Choice Specs
Modest, Pressure
252 Sp Atk, 252 HP, 6 Def
-Draco Meteor
-Aura Sphere
-Shadow Ball
-Dragon Pulse / Thunder
   Nobody expects the Giratina Inquisition! Seriously, this set is kind of out of left field, but the ghost caterpillar definitely has the movepool to pull it off. Shadow Ball and Aura Sphere give you a very potent type combination that is resisted by no Pokemon, but it is a bit risky in Ubers. If you predict incorrectly, you may end up using Shadow Ball against a Normal-type Arceus, or heaven forbid, Aura Sphere against another Giratina.

   In the last slot, Dragon Pulse is a good choice for reliability, allowing you to sweep once you've taken out your foe's special wall. Thunder, however, will allow you to switch into Kyogres and Manaphys and go for a surprise KO.

Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:50:03 GMT

my summary on the 11th pokemon movie. mega spoilers! do not read if you dont want spoilers!

The opening sequence features lots of Pokemon floating by as usual, a shot of all the Eeveelutions at a picnic, and a cool sequence with (main male character from RSE) and (main male character from DP) battling each other with Rhyperior and Magmortar.

A small green critter is walking through a lush forest. It's Shaymin, going for a drink at a forest lake. As she drinks, on the other side of the small lake, a large figure approaches, also leaning down for a drink: It's Dialga. Shaymin watches, a little cautious, but suddenly something springs out of the lake and begins to drag Dialga in! In the thrashing struggle that ensues, Shaymin is thrown around and ends up being dragged down into the lake, clinging tight to Dialga's back spikes. But they've actually been dragged not into the water, but through a portal to another world, and it was Giratina who dragged them there.

As Giratina and Dialga battle, a rugged looking bearded man (Mugen) watches. He spots Shaymin, saying "It got caught in the middle..." Dialga tries over and over to get back through the portal, and over and over Giratina drags it back, biting its tail and pulling it back inside. The portal closes and Dialga is trapped, and the two continue to battle. Shaymin is thrown onto Giratina, then tossed onto the ground. Its flowers begin to suck up the all the dust and debris caused by the battle, and is thrown into the air again. It almost flies into Giratina's open mouth, but suddenly glows bright and seemingly explodes. The explosion opens up a new portal to the real world, and Shaymin is sucked up into it. Dialga tries to fly through but is dragged back by Giratina yet again. It attacks and Giratina is forced to let go, and Dialga flies out free. Giratina tries again and again to get into the portal, but it sent back over and over.

Also watching this battle from a computer screen that is analyzing it (much like Mugen was) is a white haired man, Zero. He watches as Giratina drags Dialga inside and they battle, and his computer (which takes the form of a young girl, Infi) tells him each detail. At the end, it explains something Dialga did has prevented Giratina from escaping... and now Giratina is caught in a time loop that has trapped it in that world, the Reverse World. Zero rushes his ship to the scene, but is too late: the portal closed already and Dialga is gone.

Meanwhile, Ash and co. have started to have lunch nearby when they spot a dirty little Pokemon gobbling up all of their pancakes. Piplup tries to snag the pancakes from the dirty thing, and gets its flipper bitten. The critter tries to run as all the Pokemon seem furious at it, and it trips and falls into the BBQ grill, knocking it over. The charcoal smoke shoots all over it, but is quickly sucked up into its flowers. In its panic, it suddenly explodes.

After everyone gets over the mini explosion, Dawn takes the dirty thing and rinses it off, and they all wince as it shakes water into their faces, then complains that the water felt good, but was too cold. They are all surprised that the little creature can speak, using telepathy. It continues to complain... "And you could have washed me a little more gently!" They soon realize they are dealing with a real smart-mouth. The critter demands that they all go to the Flower Field, and when Ash asks where it is, it says "Over there!" Ash says "Where is 'over there?'!" and gets angry, and the creature replies "Over there is over there! Its over there over there there over there..." and seemingly faints. They realize its sick and rush it to a Pokemon Center.

At the Center, Nurse Joy helps the creature feel better while explaining it's the Gratitude Pokemon, Shaymin. She explains how it sucks up any sort of pollution into the flowers, and the explosion was an attack called Seed Flare, which is actually quite powerful. Shaymin whines more about wanting to go to the Great Flower Field, and then begins abusing Ash, asking why he can't fly and generally annoying him. Shaymin keeps saying everyone needs to be grateful to it, and Ash asks what kind of Gratitude Pokemon only wants people to be thankful to it and never says thank you. He looks ready to smack it a few times, but Dawn likes Shaymin and thinks it's cute and stops him. They agree to take it to the Flower Field. Team Rocket, who's been listening in at the door, decides to follow, steal Shaymin, and present it to the boss (typical).

As they head outside, Shaymin jumps onto Ash's head, jerking him around, saying "It's this way! No, this way!" He looks ready to smack it again, so Dawn carries Shaymin in her arms. They pass some giant triangular sculptures on the lawn of the park, and Giratina's reflection appears in them, seemingly chasing them. Suddenly Shaymin throws a fit and tries to run away, but is grabbed by Team Rocket as it jumps down. They yelp about claiming Shaymin, but are suddenly sucked into one of the reflective sculptures. Ash and Dawn rush after them, grabbing Shaymin, and also get sucked in, leaving a confused and scared Brock behind.

They've been sucked into the Reverse World! The world is full of floating bits of land and upside down, inside out buildings, and they also find their bodies to be very light. They hop-float along, and soon are attacked by Giratina, while Shaymin cries about how she's going to be eaten. They run as Giratina attacks, and Pikachu and Piplup's Thunderbolt and Bubble Beam can't ward him off. Soon they meet Mugen, who helps them escape though one of the weird buildings while his Sheildon attacks Giratina. Once safely away from the giant, and on the other side of the building, their bodies become heavy again, causing Piplup to fall on its face. Mugen explains about the Reverse World - how it is a world attached and affected directly by the Real World. It takes on abnormal pollution from the Real World, which appears as a burst of purple poisonous clouds (as he speaks, the clouds can be seen bursting around them). He explains Giratina is the only Pokemon there, and he himself had come to research the place, and ended up staying five years because he loved it so much. Shaymin makes some smart-alec comments about Giratina wanting to eat her, and how everyone should be grateful to her, and Mugen recognizes her from the battle with Dialga.

At one point, they see Brock looking around worriedly for them, though a bubble floating nearby. As Ash reaches for the bubble, Mugen cries NO!, but Ash touches it. It bursts, and there is a small explosion near the real Brock, sending him flying (and making him more confused). Mugen explains that anything they do or touch in Reverse World will affect the Real World, and cause damage in most cases.

As he leads the kids to a place where they can return to the Real World, he tells them of the battle, and says not too long ago, two beings never intended to meet, did meet up in the Real World, and had an epic battle. Dawn and Ash immediately remembered the happenings in Alamos Town. Mugen goes on to explain that he himself saw the battle from Reverse World, and how Dialga and Palkia's actions caused a horrible slew of poison and pollution to burst into Reverse World, clogging it up with filth. Giratina watched then battle and watched the pollution they caused in his world, and grew more and more furious, vowing from that day to get revenge. He'd hunted them ever since, finally catching Dialga and dragging him down, but Dialga escaped and Giratina had lost its ability to go between the Reverse World and Real World. During this explanation, Shaymin comments a few times on how much she hates Giratina's guts, and also throws in how much everyone should be grateful to her.

Mugen helps the kids through a quickly vanishing portal, and Brock helps pull them out, begging for an explanation. Mugen gives a final warning to avoid reflective surfaces, now that Giratina is hunting them. After the portal closes, Team Rocket runs up crying "WAIT FOR US!", while Mugen stares at their panic, totally amused.

As they walk and tell Brock of their mini adventure, above them, Zero is leaving his ship. Watching old videos of himself and his old mentor (which is obviously Mugen) happily exploring the newly entered Reverse World, he's realized something about Shaymin (what, we don't know), and has left to go do something about it. Suddenly the kids are surrounded by Magnemite and Magneton, and Zero flies down on what looks like a magnetized flying scooter, with his Magnezone behind him. He says he will now take Shaymin, but with the help of their Pokemon, the kids run away. Shaymin clings to Ash and tells him to run faster, and Ash asks why it always clings to him when they run away. Shaymin says she'd prefer it if Ash was also eaten. They manage to escape into a train last second. The train pulls away, and Ash wonders where it could be going.

Dawn and Shaymin sit in one of the cars and are instantly surrounded by people admiring how cute Shaymin is, and how sweet it is. Ash complains that its nasty and explodes at random, and Shaymin shoots back that it doesn't do that to NICE people. Also it continues to make smart-alec comments about how everyone ought to be grateful to it. Ash looks ready to hit it while everyone laughs. They discuss how all the world's Shaymin gather at the Flower Field, and one couple shows the bouquet of flowers they are taking to their 100 year old great grandmother. Dawn hands Shaymin to the wife, who gently cradles it. The bouquet looks just like Shaymin, who has sprouted some extra flowers in the wife's arms, which it does when content. They explain that the flowers are Glacidia Flowers, and you give them to show thanks. Shaymin sniffs in some of the pollen, and suddenly begins to glow and change. It flies from the woman's arms up onto the seat, and they see it has become Sky Forme, much to the kids' surprise. As Shaymin gleefully flies around the cabin, the people explain how Shaymin becomes Sky Forme when it touches a Glacidia Flower.

The happy moment is short lived as the train is swarmed by Zero's magnet army, including Magnezone. Instead of whining and crying, Shaymin takes them all on at once, and with help from the other Pokemon, they gain the upper hand. Shaymin takes down Magnezone on its own, and the magnets, and Zero, leave them alone for the time being.

The gang hops on a boat after their train adventure, heading out onto the open water, hopefully towards the Flower Field. Shaymin mentions how important it is for everyone to be grateful to her for saving them all, then gleefully flies all around, shooting high into the sky and doing lots of tricks. Piplup is jealous and tries to fly off the boat, flopping into the water instead and deciding to fly its own way, shooting out of the water and diving back in, like a dolphin. Ash watches them having fun and asks Pikachu if he'd like to fly too, so Pikachu, on Staravia's back, gets to fly through the clouds with Shaymin.

Giratina is on the prowl, and attacks from a portal opened in the water's reflective surface. Shaymin doesn't cry or whine about being eaten, but goes to attack, and this time Ash, Dawn, and Brock all fall into the Reverse World. Shaymin battles Giratina fiercly, and Ash cheers it on, applauding how brave it is. Mugen rushes over, amused and annoyed, and tells the kids the Reverse World isn't a place to come back to all the time. They also find that Team Rocket has become his little servants while stuck in the Reverse World with him. Night falls rather suddenly - and Shaymin, mid-air, returns to its Land Forme. Squealing and legs wiggling it falls, caught by Ash at the last second. It is crying and whining about being eaten again. Mugen explains Giratina is probably not trying to eat it, but wants Shaymin to somehow help it open up another Seed Flare portal so it can escape and get revenge on Dialga (and most likely Palkia as well). Giratina swoops down and seems to snatch Shaymin off Ash's head up into its mouth, and they watch Giratina fly off with Shaymin crunched in its jaws. Then Shaymin crawls out from under Ash's head, which had fallen to the ground! The illusion in Giratina's mouth vanishes and it screams in rage, coming back for more.

Zero has flown into the water-portal, along with his magnet army, and attacks suddenly and fiercely, capturing the real Shaymin using Magnemites, and holding everyone hostage, also with Magnemites. Zero deliberately forces one of the poison pollution clouds to surround the group, and they begin choking and suffering in the poisonous gas. As Zero had expected, all of it is sucked into Shaymin's flowers. The Magnemites bring the crying and terrified Shaymin high into the air, holding it out like a sacrifice to an enraged Giratina. Giratina opens its mouth wide, and Shaymin screams that it will be eaten, unleashing a powerful Seed Flare explosion - just what Giratina (and Zero) had been waiting for! Everyone is sucked through the huge portal that was opened, and Zero laughs and proclaims that now Giratina is free, and Giratina slips through the portal as well, truly free of the time curse Dialga had placed on it.

On the other side, Giratina is glowing, turned into its "Another Forme," with six legs. While everyone is still recovering, Shaymin suddenly becomes Sky Forme again - they look to see they are next to a huge field of Glacidia Flowers. They made it to their destination! As they rejoice, Giratina is suddenly hit by a red light and frozen, then sucked up towards Zero's ship, which has flown from the clouds on auto-pilot. Giratina is entrapped inside a cage of red lasers, and they begin to obviously cause it great pain. As it cries out in suffering and writhes in pain, Mugen looks on with horrible guilt, explaining that it was he who invented the machine that is now torturing Giratina. Everyone is shocked, and Dawn asks how he could do such a thing. He explains that Zero was his student, and they worked together to find a way into the Reverse World, and invented this machine, which copies all of Giratina's abilities - the one they mostly wanted, was its ability to enter and exit the Reverse World at will. But when Mugen realized that the machine would ultimately torture and then kill Giratina, he erased all the plans while Zero looked on in horror. Obviously after they parted, Zero redid everything and built the machine. He doesn't care if Giratina dies - he wants to control the Reverse World, and rescue it from the pollution and damage the Real World inflicts on it. It is true that he speaks of Reverse World lovingly, calling it beautiful and in need of saving.

Giratina continues to writhe in pain, and Mugen swears he will stop it, as he believes this to be his fault. He hops onto Zero's magnetized scooter (which Zero left behind, hopping onto his ship), and Ash and Dawn (and their Pokemon) join him. Shaymin flies off ahead and they follow, leaving a sad Brock behind.

Mugen sneaks into the ship and attempts to shut down the process, while Zero laughs at him and taunts him from the big screen in the room Mugen is in, claiming he is too late. Giratina's abilities are 50% copied now, and Shaymin, Ash and Dawn and their Pokemon are caught up battling Zero's Magnet army. Mugen grumbles that it was he who invented this thing in the first place, and his fingers fly over the keyboard as he tries to stop the machine. Giratina has been 99% copied and is nearly dead with Mugen manages to shut down everything. Giratina collapses and dangles from a metal rod sticking out of the ship. and Mugen comes bolting out yelling that he shut down the engines and power as well. They all rush off the ship on the scooter, and Giratina's limp body slides off the rod and crashes into the lake below. Zero zooms off his ship in a smaller version of it, and opens a portal easily, sliding into Reverse World - he successfully copied Giratina's abilities.

His ship crashes, sending tons of forest Pokemon running out onto the shore in front of the flowers. Giratina manages to drag itself back onto shore, then collapses. The kids and Shaymin approach it, and Dawn begins to cry as Giratina gives a final grunt and seemingly is dead. Then, they notice its chest move with a small breath, and Shaymin, who was so upset and hateful to Giratina, flies to land on its chest, screaming that it cannot die. Shaymin glows and seems to send waves into Giratina's body, and they realize it is healing it with its special ability. Giratina is okay, and stands up while Shaymin flies around in happy circles, landing on its face and giggling. Giratina stares at it, and they seem to be friendly now.

In the Reverse World, Zero smacks into bubbles showing the gang, causing explosions that send them flying. Mugen explains that Zero is attacking the Real World from inside Reverse World. Zero begins to fly around what appears to be pillars of ice on the reverse side of a huge glacier. He begins to smash them, and the glacier starts to slide forward as its ties to the Reverse World are severed. It crashes toward the Flowers, and the gang realizes if it continues to move, it will crush everything, including the town below. As they panic, Giratina opens a portal to the Reverse World, flying off to stop Zero. Shaymin bravely flies to fight with it, and Ash follows on the Scooter, with Pikachu.

The glacier's movement has awoken Regigigas, who emerges from his temple and calls upon a herd of Mamoswine. Meanwhile, other ice Pokemon are trying to stop the glacier using Ice Beam (like wild Froslass, Dawn's Swinub and Buneary, etc.), but it is not working. Regigigas and the hundreds of Mamoswine move in front of it and push back against it, not stopping it, but slowing it considerably. The gang cries encouragement as the Ice Pokemon continue trying to help.

In the Reverse World, Giratina battles Zero, but Zero has all Giratina's power now, and they are evenly matched. Zero continues to scream and laugh and rant about protecting the beautiful Reverse World from the people destroying it in the Real World. Eventually, he is overpowered, and Giratina forces him back through the portal, where his ship is immediately crashed and encased in ice by a Mamoswine on the glacier. Zero stares blankly ahead, defeated and not caring that he is trapped in ice on a glacier that will soon crash through towns and mountains.

In the Reverse World, Ash is on Giratina's head as Giratina swirls around the ruined pillars of ice, restoring them. The glacier stops moving and everyone rejoices. Ash and Giratina and Shaymin return to the Real World, where Shaymin returns to Land Forme and Giratina gets its legs back. It doesn't stick around for long though, and suddenly flies away. Mugen checks his computer and realizes Dialga is somewhere nearby. This is left as is, for now...

They turn to see a ton of cute little Shaymins crawling around amidst the flowers. Shaymin, who is in Dawn's arms now, watches them and sniffles a bit. Ash tells it to go and have fun with its friends, but Shaymin is sniffling. The Shaymins scuttling around in the flowers then begin to glow and change, and fly off into the air, happily dancing amongst the clouds as Sky Formes. Shaymin is hesitant... then, without looking at any of them, says in a tearful voice how grateful it is to all of them. They are surprised, and pleased. Shaymin scuttles away from them into the field, quickly sprouting long legs and ears and prancing into the sky, joining its friends. They fly in a circle as the Glacidia petals swirl around them, and Dawn says "Look...it's a Sky Bouquet," and they all admire the beautiful scene.

Everybody heads their separate ways in the end. Zero's sad and limp form is discovered in his frozen ship, and pulled out by Mugen and various police officers. His Magnets are happily lounging around his crashed ship, while lots of Aron and Lairon eat it up. A ground of Shaymins are sleeping together in a log in the forest. Ash's mom, Brock's family, and Dawn's mother all get Glacidia flowers delivered from their kids. Team Rocket stumbles into Regigigas' lair (where he quietly returned) and is blasted away again. Where did Giratina go, and what will happen when it finds Dialga? All we get is a closeup of Palkia's eye, then Dialga's, then Giratina's. It then shows all of them, hovering in a stormy sky: Dialga, Giratina in the middle, and Palkia, ready to rip into each other. What will happen? We'll know in a year! An ominous voice indicates they are going to be fighting, and then the title, "Diamond and Pearl: Platinum" shows. What will happen? We'll know in a year!

Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:18:16 GMT

Since you all responded so positively to the idea in this thread (I still need input on the other thing in that post, BTW), I got off my duff and did it!

Behold! pokemacros!

Anyway, since it hasn't hit the comm yet, Rachael Lillis returned to the show today, as Maylene. She sounded like Utena, only quieter.

Art Question

Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:28:39 GMT

Could someone give me the name of the artist and the artists site for this pic? I think someone stole it and I'd like some proof. Please and thank you.

D/P Eevees

Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:39:50 GMT

How do you get 'em? I heard that one of the NPCs gives you one when you beat the elite four or something (I'm still trying to beat them), but I'd like to have all of the Eeveelutions, or at least 2 or 3 of them. How can I get more?

EDIT: For possible relevance, I have diamond, and leaf green.