Scott Kellogg ([info]kelloggs2066) wrote in [info]onlinecomic,
@ 2004-10-15 09:38:00
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The Rules of the Onlinecomics Community
[info]seanthesean wrote:
i thought the community rules say strictly, "No furry comics."

No such rule exists. I suggest you have a read:
http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=onlinecomic

Now, let me get this straight:
You complain about the rules on LJ-Cut and say "but i don't just arbitrarily follow rules, especially on the internet."

And then you turn around and Make Up a non-existent arbitrary rule about Furry Comics, and then go back in the Onlinecomics Archives to find a my post from a Month and a Half ago to push that rule?


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[info]freakylynx
2004-10-15 07:56 am UTC (link)
What's he got against furry comics?

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[info]kelloggs2066
2004-10-15 08:03 am UTC (link)
I've no clue. But out of the blue, it appears he's started going through the archives of the group, back over a month in time to pick fights with other cartoonists.

http://www.livejournal.com/community/onlinecomic/248978.html

http://www.livejournal.com/community/onlinecomic/245423.html

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[info]freakylynx
2004-10-15 08:10 am UTC (link)
i understand the rule, i just chose not to follow it. ... i don't just arbitrarily follow rules, especially on the internet.

Maybe he should create his own comic community and that way he'll be able to overcome any arbitrary rules from being put into place.

Yeah, I agree with you - I mean, you can't even follow his logic. A rule about lj-cut is a courtesy for the readers of this community. A rule about banning specific types of comics...I don't get that (I'd really like to know what he believes the word 'arbitrary' means) - you'd first have to strictly define what it is (I mean, is Garfield a 'furry' comic - it has a talking cat...is Usagi Yojimbo a furry comic, I met Stan Sakai -I didn't get the impression he believes it is).

And in the end, his logic also goes against the whole point of the community - online comics. Why would you ban a segment of what you're trying to promote?

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[info]kelloggs2066
2004-10-15 08:21 am UTC (link)
He indicated that he has some sort of problem with Anime and Furry comics. I can only assume that he's decided to make up his own rule to suit his own personal preferences and is trying to pressure people into following it.

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[info]seanthesean
2004-10-15 06:46 pm UTC (link)
maybe there shouldn't be any furry comics.

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[info]freakylynx
2004-10-15 07:21 pm UTC (link)
Shoulda Woulda Coulda... get out of your hole boy, there is such a thing as furry comics. Deal with it or leave. And what do you care anyways, they're actually following the rule of using lj-cut so you can quite easily skip over them. But...you've already shown you can't deal with the reality of their existence so maybe you're a little too sensitive for even that. Probably a community out there for your meek tastes.

Actually...wait, before you go - define furry comics for me. I'd really like to know because you sure as hell don't know the definition of arbitrary. Show me where only having a grade school education can get you in life ;)

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[info]seanthesean
2004-10-15 11:55 pm UTC (link)
yes true, my mere grade school education really is holding me back. i think you were looking for some logic where logic wasn't the operating motive. by arbitrary i meant, "rules that don't serve me right now" that's straight up american values right there, so i'm sure you can understand that. as far as furry comics go, i find them to be incredibly disturbing, something about the incredibly unrefined, distorted sexuality in them and their largest support being on the internet is really wrong. that and it's impossible to do a google image search without furries coming up on the first page.

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[info]seanthesean
2004-10-15 06:44 pm UTC (link)
they are against god and man.

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[info]freakylynx
2004-10-15 07:24 pm UTC (link)
Really? You know what God wants? That's pretty funny how tenuous your grip on reality is...especially considering the comic you posted on this community ;)

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[info]seanthesean
2004-10-15 11:55 pm UTC (link)
once again, looking for logic where tongue has been placed firmly through the proverbial cheek.

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[info]razorbladegrin
2004-10-15 08:17 am UTC (link)
How disgustingly biased of him. "Furry" Comics are some of my all time favorites.

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[info]kelloggs2066
2004-10-15 08:42 am UTC (link)
I think he's just trolling.

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[info]seanthesean
2004-10-15 06:45 pm UTC (link)
and?

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[info]hollyannvix
2004-10-15 08:37 am UTC (link)
*nods* I was starting to wonder there...Cuz when he posted that for my comic, I went and did a double-check of the rules and thought to myself "What the heck is he talking about? There's no rule that says 'no furry comics allowed'." O.o

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[info]kelloggs2066
2004-10-15 08:44 am UTC (link)
No Worries, HollyAnn! No such rule exists.

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[info]seanthesean
2004-10-15 06:45 pm UTC (link)
actually, there is such a rule.

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[info]freakylynx
2004-10-15 07:26 pm UTC (link)
Now now, just because you wrote it down on your wall in crayola it doesn't translate to fact on the Internet seany boy. Anyways, I'm sure all the voices in your head aren't in agreement on this one...especially not "god" *snickers*

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[info]amurana
2004-10-15 08:14 pm UTC (link)
I'm trying to get everyone to play nice! Even if that was really funny, the more you ignore problems the easier it is to make them stop. :writes down crayola line:

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[info]freakylynx
2004-10-15 09:29 pm UTC (link)
Sorry, mostly bored when I wrote that ;)

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[info]seanthesean
2004-10-15 11:59 pm UTC (link)
isn't culture formed and refined through constant torment? i feel that many of our country's problems have had to do with ignoring these strange trends that manifest.

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[info]seanthesean
2004-10-15 11:55 pm UTC (link)
you've gotta work on these insults.

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[info]amurana
2004-10-15 08:50 am UTC (link)
Damnit, why do people gotta be stirrin up crap with my community?! Not you. I know you're just reacting to his jerkness. Next time, though, email me or comment in my journal about what's going on and I'll put things right. I would have caught the large image today, but I would have missed the furry attacks.

You are correct, there IS NO RULE BANNING FURRIES! My best friend runs a fur chat site affiliated with furnation over at www.kingdomanimalia.net so to ban furry comics would prolly get me beaten up.


I have replied to him in his original post. Things should be better now. If not, well, I'll take the next step.

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[info]kelloggs2066
2004-10-15 10:22 am UTC (link)
My apologies.

After I noticed he went after me where no one was likely to notice, I saw he'd gone after [info]hollyannvix too, and possibly a lot of other cartoonists too.

If it had just been me, I'd've probably blown it off. But I didn't want someone telling lots of people "You're not supposed to be here."

I realize that being a moderator is usually a thankless difficult job. I've done it myself and learned a lot of things I'd rather I hadn't learned.

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is Thanks for keeping order on the playground! :)

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[info]amurana
2004-10-15 08:15 pm UTC (link)
I'm tryin! I don't want yall to be attacked, and I don't want him to be ostrasized for his opinions! He just needs to have his opinions in a less confrontational manner. If only the world could do that.

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[info]seanthesean
2004-10-15 06:45 pm UTC (link)
by definition community means we, not me.

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[info]amurana
2004-10-15 08:08 pm UTC (link)
You are correct, sir. I try and take care of everyone, but it is my community, and I won't harbor hatred. Now, if you make fun of furries in your comic and want to link to your comic, there's nothing wrong with that. Give a heads up that your comic tends to be of the blatant opinion type and don't post a large uncut image of a person in a rabbit suit with their leg torn off in a bear trap. You've got to cut that stuff with warnings!
I'm not trying to stop you from believing what you do. I'm not telling you you can't advertise. I love comics and websites that take jabs at everyone equally. Ever been to www.tshirthell.com ?
I just want there to be respect among members here, reguardless of interests.

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[info]freakylynx
2004-10-15 09:35 pm UTC (link)
Don't feel obligated to give equal weight to opinions that are divisive and counter-productive. You gotta draw a line in the sand at some point, and having a member going around harassing others for their comic preferences and on top of that act like they're above rules that all others follow...

Not my place but I'd say this was your fair warning to him.

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[info]seanthesean
2004-10-15 11:56 pm UTC (link)
i agree that i am being a turkey, but these people that draw furry comics are being animals in general.

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[info]mckenzee
2004-10-15 10:04 am UTC (link)
Um, I think the infamous rule banning furries is on the Something Positive forum.

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[info]beccastareyes
2004-10-15 11:01 am UTC (link)
Technically, that's just because the community mods do not want to deal wiht the fallout of furry versus anti-furry debates insult-hurling matches.

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[info]howardtayler
2004-10-15 11:12 am UTC (link)
You should have seen what happened to mecha on the Schlock forums. :-)

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ha ha ha!
[info]seanthesean
2004-10-15 10:37 am UTC (link)
i guess just because you like comics doesn't mean you've got a sense of humor! or taste for that matter.

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Oh, THAT joke.
[info]howardtayler
2004-10-15 11:11 am UTC (link)
Oh, THAT joke. That's the "I'm a troll, but it's okay because I'm only kidding" joke.

We've heard it before.

For someone trying to do something interesting and different with a comic, you really ought to reach for less stale humor in your posts. Or at least not try to excuse your trolling as a joke.

You've been caught out. A little humility, and perhaps an apology will go a lot further than continuing to dig at the bottom of the hole you're in.

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Re: Oh, THAT joke.
[info]seanthesean
2004-10-15 06:46 pm UTC (link)
i like how you want to help me out with humility after that comment. it's great.

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Re: Oh, THAT joke.
[info]amurana
2004-10-15 08:12 pm UTC (link)
Really, please stop harassing other members. I've not suspended anyone yet. I don't want to start with you.

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Re: Oh, THAT joke.
[info]seanthesean
2004-10-15 11:57 pm UTC (link)
what i really opposed to was baldy's nerdy rule quotation at me.

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Re: Oh, THAT joke.
[info]amurana
2004-10-16 09:44 am UTC (link)
Mister Taylor was being awesome in helping out while I was at work. Have you actually read the rules yet?

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[info]zannechaos
2004-10-17 08:53 pm UTC (link)
Heh... Just noticed last night that this little kerfuffle's made Fandom_Wank ... in a way. ^_^

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