S u n s h i n e ([info]0405) wrote in [info]ohnotheydidnt,
@ 2006-06-14 23:41:00
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Jay-Z Shelves Cristal At 40/40 Club, Urges Boycott.
Industry rap giant Jay-Z has joined the ranks of those boycotting high end champagne company Cristal, in response to the negative comments made by Frederic Rouzaud, managing director of Louis Roederer Cristal.

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In a special summer edition of The Economist magazine, Rouzaud commented on the Hip-Hop community's patronage of the champagne brand in an article titled "Bubbles and Bling."

Rouzaud stated that he observed the rap community's constant patronage of the pricey drink with "curiosity and serenity."

Rouzaud further stated that other brands like Dom Perignon and Krug "would be delighted to have their business."

Jay-Z has announced that he will no longer support or distribute Cristal champagne at his 40/40 sports bar/restaurant.

"It has come to my attention that the managing director of Cristal, Frederic Rouzaud views the 'Hip-Hop' culture as 'unwelcome attention,'" said Jay-Z. "I view his comments as racist and will no longer support any of his products through any of my various brands including The 40/40 Club nor in my personal life."

Jay-Z, Sean "Diddy" Combs, and several of the Hip-Hop industry's biggest stars have supported Cristal through patronage and homage in rap lyrics.

Jay-Z and his popular 40/40 Club will now be serving only Krug and Dom Perignon to their customers seeking high end champagne products.

allhiphop.com


Here's what I posted before to what Jay Z responded to.
http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=5753


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[info]numb_kisses
2006-06-15 04:14 am UTC (link)
has anyone here ever had cristal? is it even good?

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[info]bangbangusuck
2006-06-15 04:15 am UTC (link)
I like it a lot.

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[info]lovewasted
2006-06-15 04:16 am UTC (link)
So saying towards rappers, who are mostly black that by talking about Cristal in their songs is getting the Cristal company UNWANTED ATTENTION -- how can that not be racist?

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[info]numb_kisses
2006-06-15 04:15 am UTC (link)
everything is rascist nowadays.

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[info]lovewasted
2006-06-15 04:15 am UTC (link)
GOOD, more people need to do this.

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[info]ashbyyokosuka1
2006-06-15 05:16 am UTC (link)
who is in your icon?
she is gorgeous (i want to say rosario--if that is her, the best i've EVER seen her!)

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[info]martinisnmakeup
2006-06-15 04:17 am UTC (link)
I'm usually one to be wary of people playing the race card, but that comment is rather offensive. Just my humble opinion, though.

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[info]keskt
2006-06-15 04:19 am UTC (link)
I agree. I mean even if it's not racist, it's offensive to those who ARE in the hip hop community and it's perfectly reasonable that they'd stop consuming it after that. It was such a stupid comment to make.

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[info]cdsdralion
2006-06-15 04:19 am UTC (link)
I do think this was a bit racist, usually I am not one to pull the race card, but I think it's justifiably used here.

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[info]bluesforgotten
2006-06-15 04:22 am UTC (link)
hmm. its amazing to me that they aren't stopping buying it because of the insane price, but rather because of some petty argument.

these people need to put things into perspective.

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[info]childproof
2006-06-15 04:23 am UTC (link)
price isn't really a big deal when you have that much money.

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[info]hantastic
2006-06-15 04:22 am UTC (link)
i love how jay-z automatically calls the guy's comments racist. maybe the guy feels that the lifestyle that's associated with hip-hop is what's bringing the company "unwanted attention." but nooooooooo...it's obviously 'cause the guy's a bigot. OBVIOUSLY.

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[info]hantastic
2006-06-15 04:23 am UTC (link)
to me, it'd make more sense to stop drinking the champagne because the guy insulted the hip-hop community, not because he's "racist."

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[info]croutonochrist
2006-06-15 04:23 am UTC (link)
I don't really think his comments were racist, but he certainly proved himself to be quite a dick. So I support the protest. Down with Cristal, bitches.

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[info]ex_nature304
2006-06-15 04:24 am UTC (link)
good

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[info]pistolasypesos
2006-06-15 04:40 am UTC (link)
icon love

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[info]gloriousmcfly
2006-06-15 04:25 am UTC (link)
not much of a fan of champagne, but cristal has always been good to me.
(especially when it's paid for by a wealthy family friend)

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[info]a_raven_rogue
2006-06-15 04:26 am UTC (link)
jealous.

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[info]a_raven_rogue
2006-06-15 04:25 am UTC (link)
Hmm, I don't know. A very tactless comment, yes, but I wouldn't say 'racist'.

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[info]thenixhex
2006-06-15 03:38 pm UTC (link)
I don't see where the comments were either tactless or racist. They sounded like observations to me.

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[info]tamburlaine
2006-06-15 04:26 am UTC (link)
In the great words of Kel, "AW, HERE IT GOES!"

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[info]whiz
2006-06-15 04:28 am UTC (link)
HAHAHAHA.

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[info]ellinorianne
2006-06-15 04:27 am UTC (link)
Who tells people to buy their competitor? What kind of business model is that?

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[info]0405
2006-06-15 04:30 am UTC (link)
They are buying their products and getting the word out in songs about their products. They are making them I'm sure a shitload of money. Who cares who is buying your products as long as the dough comes in!!

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Re: Team Rouzaud - [info]antimonkeytrust, 2006-06-15 04:35 am UTC (Expand)

[info]numb_kisses
2006-06-15 04:28 am UTC (link)
most people drop names in their songs to get free shit anyway.

wasn't there a post saying manolo get pissed when sex and the city dropped the designer name tons of times? that wasn't rascist of course though...since they are both white. the second a white person says something rude to a black person its rascist though.

i don't know...i just think people get way too carried away with calling people rascist.

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[info]potatoboat
2006-06-15 04:32 am UTC (link)
you're racist.

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[info]maradeath
2006-06-15 04:29 am UTC (link)
I knew that some rappers would bring someone being racist into this...........

Personally, I can see why he isn't too excited. I wouldn't be either!

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[info]antimonkeytrust
2006-06-15 04:33 am UTC (link)
new money always goes for the most popular and/or expensive things.
its tacky.

i'm glad someone called rappers (the most notoriously tasteless public figures) out on it. now if car companies and designers would follow suit.

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[info]0405
2006-06-15 04:37 am UTC (link)
Car companies are enjoying having hip hop stars apart of their advertising. It's a big market. Just like alcohol.

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[info]dixie_chicken
2006-06-15 04:34 am UTC (link)
Racist? Maybe not pointedly, but slightly so, given that a slam against hip-hop is hard to separate from a slam against the black community.

Ignorant and offensive? Definitely. A justified boycott? Absolutely.

Shitty business sense? GOOD GOD, YOU ASSHAT, I'M STILL 30 SEMESTER HOURS AND A THESIS SHORT OF MY B.B.A. AND I KNOW BETTER THAN TO PUBLICLY INSULT A FUCKING HUGE MARKET SEGMENT THAT IS THE SOLE REASON 80% OF THE WORLD EVEN KNOWS MY BRAND EXISTS.

As said by a friend of mine who's much more knowledgeable about such things than I am: "Half of alcohol is branding, because, aside from gin and rum, it pretty much tastes the same, and like 50 people can tell the good from the bad."

Seeing major-league businesspeople do ignorant shit like this makes me happy for my future in the corporate world.

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[info]nicknolteshair
2006-06-15 04:45 am UTC (link)
iawtc

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[info]bogie_bacall
2006-06-15 04:36 am UTC (link)
I'm sure other businesses would love the "unwelcome attention."

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[info]espressoshot
2006-06-15 04:38 am UTC (link)

Jay-Z's 40/40 club and Cristal.
Trust me. There's SO MUCH BETTER out there than this shitty, overrated combination.

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[info]thewebheadnw
2006-06-15 04:39 am UTC (link)
the Cristal dude could have used a lot more diplomacy and less smugness w/ his remarks, but the general idea of a brand is that they'd like to control who is endorsing them. If a rap song talks about Cristal in one sentence, then discusses degrading women or committing a crime in the next, then an unwelcome association is made.

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[info]thewebheadnw
2006-06-15 04:44 am UTC (link)
example: 2Pac's 'Fuck Friendz'

Check out my - diamonds bitch everyone gonna blink (bling bling bling)
This be a thug thang, Outlaw nigga with riches
Cream dreamin motherfucker, on a mash for bitches
Check my resume, sippin on Cristal and Alize
Smokin on big weed, keyed the Cali way
Don't like trickin but I'll buy you a fifth
I can't stand no sneaker-wearin nappy head bitch

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[info]sunshineyellow
2006-06-15 04:45 am UTC (link)
how can people say this is not racist? he's using code words. just like 'urban audience' is always code for black people, targeting an industry where most of the performers are black has a very specific connotation. I have the Economist right in front of me and I think his comment was stupid and completely out of line, especially to people bringing huge amounts of business to them. Maybe it wasn't 'that' racist, but there are gradations, which many people on this board don't seem to understand.

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[info]concha_malvada
2006-06-15 06:12 am UTC (link)
white, mexican and asian people all live in urban areas. Urban does not have to be synonymous with BLACK

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[info]androganus
2006-06-15 04:46 am UTC (link)
Sorry but hip hop culture talking about bitch this, nigga that, drive bys, pimps, and bullshit getto crap and objectifying women creates more racism for the black community than anyone else. If rappers are classy people they sure do a good job of hiding it. I seem to recal several dumbass rappers pouring cristal down hookers panties and on the floor like absolute dumb shits. If that were my brand I would be pissed off too.

It is so annoying that people like Jay-z who create ignorance act offended when someone makes a racist statement like this. What has he really done to stop racism? If he wants to be accepted by classy people white,brown,or what have you, he can use the money hes not spending on champagne and use it to build a community center for tolerance. And also he can stop creating shitty racially stereotypical music that does nothing but back up ignorant statements like this Rouzard man makes.

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[info]tamburlaine
2006-06-15 05:16 am UTC (link)
IAWTC hardcore. Racism is a circle of violence.

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