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Debbie Rowe: Back to Court on Jackson Kids Visits




Debbie Rowe — mother of Michael Jackson’s two eldest children, Prince Michael and Paris – is on her way back to court. The reason? Sources say that in the four months since Michael died, she still has not seen the kids.

I am told that the deal Rowe worked out with Katherine Jackson after Michael died provided for visits with the kids and a family court psychiatrist. Rowe insisted on the latter, thinking it would be helpful to introduce her into the kids’ lives.

But one visit was scotched by Katherine Jackson, and since then the Jacksons have resisted efforts to make a meeting possible. Rowe is unhappy with the situation, and is said to be instructing her attorney to go back to their family court judge for an intervention.

“Katherine doesn’t like the idea of the psychiatrist,” says a source. She also, plainly, doesn’t like the idea of the children’s natural mother getting close to them.

Maybe one reason is that there are a lot of questions about what is going on in the Jackson home. For one thing, one of Rowe’s provisions in the original agreement is that Joseph Jackson have nothing to do with the kids. He’s been revealed by Michael in several different kinds of interviews as abusive to children. He’s certainly been openly exploitative of Michael since his death.

But Joe Jackson has regularly been a presence in Prince, Paris and Blanket’s lives since Michael’s death and the court agreement. In fact, sources say he was there at Hayvenhurst last week with them.

To make matters worse, I received a call last week from a friend of Joe Jackson’s, and someone who usually defends the family.

“Those kids should not be in that house,” this insider told me. “All that’s talked about is money, Michael’s money, and how to get it. The kids are very sweet now. But they’ll be ruined if they turn into Jacksons.”

source:http://showbiz411.blogs.thr.com/debbie-rowe-michael-jackso/


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[info]antpantsss
2009-11-06 02:07 am UTC (link)
I think I speak for most of ONTD with

:(

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[info]kuntacore
2009-11-06 02:38 am UTC (link)
double :(
Seeing a picture of him still upsets me.

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(no subject) - [info]starlight_wings, 2009-11-06 02:42 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]kuntacore, 2009-11-06 02:47 am UTC (Expand)

[info]prophecypro
2009-11-06 02:07 am UTC (link)
Shamone Debbie

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[info]okgoawaynow
2009-11-06 02:09 am UTC (link)
what's the use in blurring faces now?

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[info]starlight_wings
2009-11-06 02:17 am UTC (link)
I found the pictures that way. Nothing I can do about it.

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(no subject) - [info]lothlorienbow, 2009-11-06 04:32 am UTC (Expand)

[info]pink__sparklies
2009-11-06 02:09 am UTC (link)
I know that most of you don't feel this way but...

I feel like if she wants to get to know her children she should be able to. She had no contact with them before because she knew that they were with their father and he was an amazing dad. But not he's not around...so I can see how she would want to be a part of their lives, get to know them..etc.

She doesn't want to take them away from Katherine or anything..she just wants to know them.

I say let her. She seems like a nice level headed person to me tbh.

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[info]dotdot123dot
2009-11-06 02:10 am UTC (link)
ia

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(no subject) - [info]brighter_days, 2009-11-06 02:37 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]odetobilliejoe, 2009-11-06 02:48 am UTC (Expand)
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[info]mechuparmucho
2009-11-06 02:10 am UTC (link)
good

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[info]thelookofarebel
2009-11-06 02:10 am UTC (link)


this dude is fucking hideous as fuck.

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[info]annemarie272727
2009-11-06 02:12 am UTC (link)
Omg

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(no subject) - [info]la_cienega, 2009-11-06 02:19 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]para1, 2009-11-06 02:34 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]runaround_kid, 2009-11-06 03:59 am UTC (Expand)

[info]a_proclivity
2009-11-06 02:10 am UTC (link)
I hate this woman, but she has the right idea on keeping Joe the fuck away from those babies.

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[info]pink__sparklies
2009-11-06 02:12 am UTC (link)
Why exactly do you hate her?

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(no subject) - [info]a_proclivity, 2009-11-06 02:26 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]jessie622, 2009-11-06 02:13 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]a_proclivity, 2009-11-06 02:27 am UTC (Expand)
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(no subject) - [info]a_proclivity, 2009-11-06 02:27 am UTC (Expand)

[info]dcotn
2009-11-06 02:10 am UTC (link)
anything, anything


anything for money~

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[info]pink__sparklies
2009-11-06 02:12 am UTC (link)
I think it's been said time and time again by her and by Katherine, that Debbie has no once asked for money.

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(no subject) - [info]dcotn, 2009-11-06 02:30 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]pinknblack06, 2009-11-06 02:32 am UTC (Expand)

[info]ivan_designer
2009-11-06 02:10 am UTC (link)
I'm so fucking sorry for these kids!

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[info]orlybb
2009-11-06 02:10 am UTC (link)
“All that’s talked about is money, Michael’s money, and how to get it."

i worry about this ngl :\

and i like debbie

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[info]la_cienega
2009-11-06 02:12 am UTC (link)
i really hope that's bs... but with the jackson's you never know...

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(no subject) - [info]amiliea, 2009-11-06 02:13 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]jessie622, 2009-11-06 02:14 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]la_cienega, 2009-11-06 02:16 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]jessie622, 2009-11-06 02:26 am UTC (Expand)
back in '92 - [info]la_cienega, 2009-11-06 02:37 am UTC (Expand)
Re: back in '92 - [info]rhapsodeeinblue, 2009-11-06 03:12 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]pinknblack06, 2009-11-06 02:33 am UTC (Expand)
his impersonation of joe is amazing lol - [info]la_cienega, 2009-11-06 02:38 am UTC (Expand)
Re: his impersonation of joe is amazing lol - [info]stuckmodebabe, 2009-11-06 02:46 am UTC (Expand)
Re: his impersonation of joe is amazing lol - [info]la_cienega, 2009-11-06 02:55 am UTC (Expand)
Re: his impersonation of joe is amazing lol - [info]stuckmodebabe, 2009-11-06 02:58 am UTC (Expand)
Re: his impersonation of joe is amazing lol - [info]pinknblack06, 2009-11-06 02:46 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]amiliea, 2009-11-06 02:21 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]leitao, 2009-11-06 09:25 am UTC (Expand)

[info]xballet
2009-11-06 02:11 am UTC (link)
lol @ the picture

as if we don't already know what they look like

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[info]mikee414
2009-11-06 02:11 am UTC (link)
Plus I bet she wasn't MORE MONEY.

OT. Briana Evigan lives right below me and she is home smoking pot. My stairwell reeks of weeddddddd. MMmmm

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[info]casiguapa
2009-11-06 02:33 am UTC (link)
can you tell her that she can't dance OR act?

I would love it if you did that.

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(no subject) - [info]mikee414, 2009-11-06 03:19 am UTC (Expand)

[info]rhapsodeeinblue
2009-11-06 02:12 am UTC (link)
"The kids are very sweet now. But they’ll be ruined if they turn into Jacksons."

WAT. Melodramatic much? At least Marlon, Rebbie, and Janet are seemingly sane.

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[info]para1
2009-11-06 02:38 am UTC (link)
3 seemingly sane children out of ten. Bad odds.

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[info]cherrule
2009-11-06 02:12 am UTC (link)
you guys......i seriously thought this was a walking post and then i realized yeah

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[info]annemarie272727
2009-11-06 02:13 am UTC (link)
:(

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[info]lumaria
2009-11-06 02:13 am UTC (link)
"The kids are very sweet now. But they’ll be ruined if they turn into Jacksons.”


Oh.

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[info]laurie_springs
2009-11-06 02:15 am UTC (link)
I read that so many times, and I still don't get it.


.....Aren't most Jacksons, by nature, sweet? I mean, aside from Joe.

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(no subject) - [info]lazaro_jack, 2009-11-06 02:38 am UTC (Expand)
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[info]laurie_springs
2009-11-06 02:14 am UTC (link)
But Joe Jackson has regularly been a presence in Prince, Paris and Blanket’s lives since Michael’s death and the court agreement. In fact, sources say he was there at Hayvenhurst last week with them.

Shame on anyone who's surprised by this.

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[info]amiliea
2009-11-06 02:15 am UTC (link)
Poor kids.

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[info]yeahwell_britt
2009-11-06 02:16 am UTC (link)
I'm sorry, but can I just say how much I hate this storyline between Michael and Pam's mom on The Office? Something about it just really irks me, and I can't even watch anymore as long as this relationship is on the show. Maybe it's because we're seeing a lot more Pam as a result, and I've been hating Pam since the start of this season.

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[info]neonlivgiraffe
2009-11-06 02:17 am UTC (link)
I don't understand the Debbie hate. She knew exactly what her role was. Michael just wanted to have babies with her. She was friends with him. She loved him, and he probably loved her too, but not in the same way she did.

Her purpose was to give Michael children, and I think she knew that. But now that Michael is gone, as much as I love Katherine, the children deserve more than Katherine. They deserve to know their real mother and Debbie wants to step up to the plate. Obviously it'll take a while to get to know them.

I think Debbie at least deserves a shot. I'm not sure what to believe about this whole Jacksons thing...it may be real it may be not, but as someone said before, you never know.

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[info]starlight_wings
2009-11-06 02:19 am UTC (link)
I agree.

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[info]starlight_wings
2009-11-06 02:18 am UTC (link)
My Opinion: She has every right to see those kids. I don't see her as the "bad guy" here. I never seen her that way. She never sold Michael out. Not before death or even after. Michael and Debbie were friend's. They made arrangements. That's not news. There's alot that we from the outside don't know what happened. That's the way Michael wanted it. Those 2 kids are biologically her's. She can very easily go to court and take all 3 away from the Jackson's with no 'and', 'if' or 'buts'. Even Blankett, since she's next of kin. But Debbie has chosen to follow Michael's instructions. By law, she doesn't have to. Legally, she has more right to those kids then Katherine does. But Debbie chose to obey Michael's wishes and has backed off. All she wants is to visit the kids and make sure they are seeing a Psy. I don't see anything wrong with that.

As for the kid's knowing Debbie well or not, remember that Michael rarely saw his own family. He was very distant in his last years. He adored his mother katherine, but from what I read, they barely saw eachother. He connected more with his mother by phone. I believe the kids got to know their grandmother more closely after Michael left us. Debbie was seeing the kids from time to time. Michael allowed her to. That's what I read, so I don't know if the info is correct, but I choose to believe it.

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[info]boyswithscarves
2009-11-06 02:27 am UTC (link)
mte.

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[info]shangri__la
2009-11-06 02:24 am UTC (link)
GIVE THE KIDS TO JANET. SHE HATES HER FAMILY, SHE'LL KEEP THE KIDS AWAY FROM THEM.




eta: On topic, I think the kids are old enough to decide if they want to see their mother or not. I'm more worried for Blanket, who apparently has no mother who wishes to see him. :(

Edited at 2009-11-06 02:25 am UTC

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[info]neonlivgiraffe
2009-11-06 02:30 am UTC (link)
I think right now giving the kids to any of the Jacksons - except for maybe Rebbie - seems like a bad idea. Janet's got a lot of stuff coming up. A new CD of hers is dropping which will mean lots and lots of press.

Whether they're old enough or not, I think the children need a mother figure and not katherine. The kids deserve to know both sides of the family. Yeah, Joe and a few of the other Jacksons have made lots of mistakes and are quite messed up, but don't isolate the children because of their mistakes. Whether fans/people like it or not, they WILL have contact with Joe and anyone else labeled as a crazy jackson

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[info]phunkadelik
2009-11-06 02:25 am UTC (link)
tbh i think she should have some right. yes, she was a surrogate, but she was a surrogate for someone she loved. i dont know if it's the kid's best interests that she has in mind so much as it's keeping true to mj's intention with the life he wanted for his children.

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[info]neonlivgiraffe
2009-11-06 02:31 am UTC (link)
IA

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[info]forever_jolie
2009-11-06 02:32 am UTC (link)
Let her get to know them, she's their mom ffs.

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[info]evilhagbaker
2009-11-06 02:35 am UTC (link)
A post about my baby Paris :D

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[info]pinknblack06
2009-11-06 02:38 am UTC (link)
your icon makes me sad :(

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[info]brighter_days
2009-11-06 02:41 am UTC (link)
man, it's a shame if all the money talk really goes on around the kids...
i can't say i'd be completely surprised by it though. =/
debbie should be allowed to see the kids... she's not trying to interfere with their lives, she just wants to meet them. they're beautiful children, and she helped create them, can you blame her?

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