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@ 2009-07-11 01:34:00
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Clinton Seeks ‘Amnesty’ for Laura Ling, Euna Lee, Held by North Korea


WASHINGTON — Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said Friday that the United States was now seeking “amnesty” for two American journalists imprisoned in North Korea, a remark that suggests that the Obama administration was admitting the women’s culpability in a bid to secure their freedom.
 
“The two journalists and their families have expressed great remorse for this incident, and I think everyone is very sorry that it happened,” Mrs. Clinton said Friday morning during a wide-ranging question-and-answer session with State Department employees. “What we hope for now is that these two young women would be granted amnesty through the North Korean system and be allowed to return home to their families as soon as possible.”


The two journalists, Laura Ling, 36, and Euna Lee, 32, both reporters for San Francisco-based Current TV, were sentenced in June to 12 years of hard labor after a trial in which they were accused of entering the country illegally and committing “hostile acts.”

Ms. Ling reportedly called her sister, Lisa Ling, also a journalist, this week and said in the course of a 20-minute conversation that they had broken North Korean law, but her sister did not say how. Human rights advocates in South Korea have said they were on a reporting assignment about the plight of North Korean women sold through human traffickers and refugees fleeing hunger in North Korea when they were detained March 17.

Mrs. Clinton at first said the charges against the women were “baseless,” while the administration pressed for them to be freed on humanitarian grounds.

Her comments on Friday appear to reflect a changing picture that has been complicated by the North’s test of a nuclear missile in May and its decision to fire seven ballistic missiles into the Sea of Japan on the Fourth of July.

A scholar who visited the North said in an interview published Friday in a South Korean daily that the two women were not in a prison camp, but rather in a guest house in Pyongyang, a development that seemed to suggest that the North still wanted talks with Washington on the women’s release.

The scholar, Han Park, a political scientist at the University of Georgia, was quoted by the JoongAng Ilbo as saying the North Korean authorities told him the two women were “staying well in a guest house in Pyongyang.”

Mrs. Clinton’s comments during a town-hall-style meeting at the State Department came in response to an employee who did not identify herself, creating the appearance that the question was planted in an attempt to send a message to North Korea.

A department spokesman, P. J. Crowley, avoided questions about whether the administration had been in direct talks with North Korea.

Experts said that Mrs. Clinton appeared to be trying to keep the issue of the journalists separate from the conflict over the North’s nuclear ambitions.

“It’s clear to me they don’t want this tail to wag the nuclear dog,” said Michael Green, a top Asia expert for former President George W. Bush. “They are trying to keep it in a separate lane.”

But Mr. Green said the North was unlikely to release the women without getting something in return. Although North Korea does not expect the Obama administration to abandon its effort to impose sanctions on the North for its recent nuclear test, he said, it is likely to want a “high-profile visit” by an administration official to demonstrate that “it’s possible to return to business as usual.”

At a later appearance on Friday morning, Mrs. Clinton was asked if the State Department intended to send Professor Han as an emissary. “We have nothing to respond to about that,” she said.

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[info]williamblair
2009-07-11 06:21 am UTC (link)
I think North Korea is kind of awesome.

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[info]lovestoned5
2009-07-11 06:22 am UTC (link)
wtf is wrong with you?

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(no subject) - [info]williamblair, 2009-07-11 06:24 am UTC (Expand)

[info]candy_machinery
2009-07-11 06:27 am UTC (link)
you're not fooling anyone, kim jong-un.

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(no subject) - [info]ant_flow, 2009-07-11 06:44 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]holdyoursilence, 2009-07-11 06:56 am UTC (Expand)
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(no subject) - [info]candy_machinery, 2009-07-11 07:47 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]ant_flow, 2009-07-11 07:51 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]beccahwho, 2009-07-11 04:48 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]ididthatonce, 2009-07-11 10:36 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]idealistically
2009-07-11 06:28 am UTC (link)
Uh huh.

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[info]greyfilm
2009-07-11 06:28 am UTC (link)
Why?

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(no subject) - [info]williamblair, 2009-07-11 06:30 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]ricour, 2009-07-11 10:47 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]nastypceofwork, 2009-07-11 06:44 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]gefingerpoken, 2009-07-11 08:27 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]healthypanda, 2009-07-11 02:54 pm UTC (Expand)
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[info]h0tfuss
2009-07-11 06:22 am UTC (link)
Sorry for being stupid, but can someone sum up exactly what's going on with this? What did the women do?

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[info]lovestoned5
2009-07-11 06:24 am UTC (link)
the allegedly crossed over into north korea while they were in china

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(no subject) - [info]h0tfuss, 2009-07-11 06:26 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]idealistically, 2009-07-11 06:28 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]likegunfire, 2009-07-11 06:29 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]foutu, 2009-07-11 12:56 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]deerlike, 2009-07-11 08:39 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]queerinmesoftly, 2009-07-11 04:56 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]lovestoned5, 2009-07-11 04:59 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]ledgers
2009-07-11 06:25 am UTC (link)
I'm convinced they've never taken another picture of themselves in their lives.

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[info]infidelkast
2009-07-11 06:28 am UTC (link)
omg ikr.

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(no subject) - [info]lovestoned5, 2009-07-11 06:28 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]likegunfire, 2009-07-11 06:30 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]saltireflower, 2009-07-11 06:33 am UTC (Expand)
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(no subject) - [info]xxjaeraexx, 2009-07-11 06:36 am UTC (Expand)
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(no subject) - [info]__amerie, 2009-07-11 06:59 am UTC (Expand)
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(no subject) - [info]croutonochrist, 2009-07-11 01:38 pm UTC (Expand)
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[info]infidelkast
2009-07-11 06:27 am UTC (link)
man, I hope they're okay.

could you imagine being say, kidnapped or arrested, and your story blew up in the media and they chose a random picture from your facebook and ONLY used that picture? damn there are so many random fb pictures I would not want the world to circulate, omg.

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[info]nastypceofwork
2009-07-11 06:46 am UTC (link)
if it happened to my friends, no one would recognise who they are because they look like completely different people in their FB pics

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[info]unencumberdbird
2009-07-11 06:35 am UTC (link)
When I mentioned this to my Dad, he brought up the fact that these women are facing hard labor for illegally entering the country, but here in America we do nothing to people who enter illegally. I thought it was interesting, and true. Granted, the circumstances are different whereas North Korea is perhaps the most isolated country in the world and America the most free, but it's still interesting that our policy on illegal immigration differs enormously.

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[info]dnttllhrry
2009-07-11 06:41 am UTC (link)
i think all countries differ from NK tremendously.
theyre kinda fucking batshit.

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(no subject) - [info]unencumberdbird, 2009-07-11 06:51 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]justlikethat, 2009-07-11 06:55 am UTC (Expand)
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[info]xxjaeraexx
2009-07-11 06:37 am UTC (link)
I feel so bad for these women and their families. Hopefully something can be done to bring them home.

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[info]mooooch
2009-07-11 06:38 am UTC (link)
i hope they can return safely

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[info]baoying
2009-07-11 06:39 am UTC (link)
I finally got around to watching Lisa Ling's special documentary on North Korea today and ngl it made me cry. I have known shit's bad over there but damn, seeing those malnourished children and hearing about the labor camps was killer.

I hope these women get out of there soon.

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[info]unencumberdbird
2009-07-11 06:51 am UTC (link)
Wow, was that on TV? What's it called?

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(no subject) - [info]justlikethat, 2009-07-11 06:57 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]baoying, 2009-07-11 07:02 am UTC (Expand)
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(no subject) - [info]baoying, 2009-07-11 07:03 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]enigmaticwang, 2009-07-11 07:35 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]baoying, 2009-07-11 07:47 am UTC (Expand)
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(no subject) - [info]healthypanda, 2009-07-11 02:57 pm UTC (Expand)
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[info]dnttllhrry
2009-07-11 06:40 am UTC (link)
i feel like i cant trust anyone says about NK.
that "scholar" that said they were ok, who the fuck is this person?

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[info]new_yawk_punk
2009-07-11 06:41 am UTC (link)
If anyone can do it, Hillary can.

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[info]cogitoergosum23
2009-07-11 06:52 am UTC (link)
Haha yes. This post needs more Hil macros.

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(no subject) - [info]suwillgetu, 2009-07-11 07:09 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]memento, 2009-07-11 08:20 am UTC (Expand)
this always freaks me out
[info]persoaltramont
2009-07-11 06:59 am UTC (link)

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Re: this always freaks me out
[info]beautifiers
2009-07-11 07:09 am UTC (link)
this reminds me of world war z.

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Re: this always freaks me out - [info]applejane, 2009-07-11 07:52 am UTC (Expand)
Re: this always freaks me out - [info]katesamaloo, 2009-07-11 01:01 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]shining_lore
2009-07-11 07:21 am UTC (link)
while i agree, and hope that these girls get home as soon as possible. FOR CHRIST SAKE IS THERE ANY OTHER PICTURES OF THESE TWO!? SERIOUSLY!

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[info]xcollsangelx
2009-07-11 08:05 am UTC (link)
Hillary Clinton can do anything!

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[info]rainbowtomatoe
2009-07-11 08:07 am UTC (link)
how do we know they weren't forced to say that they HAD crossed the border?

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[info]bleepbleepbloop
2009-07-11 08:34 am UTC (link)
if north korea really wanted to mess with everyone they should say "pick which one you want to go free. the other must die."

i call it... kim jong-il's choice.

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[info]ididthatonce
2009-07-11 10:42 pm UTC (link)
shhh don't give them ideas

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[info]__papillon
2009-07-11 09:04 am UTC (link)
aren't there signs that say "DO NOT CROSS" or is that just the dmz side, and not china? i'm trying to figure out how they knowingly crossed into it, considering there should be a fence, right?

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[info]baoying
2009-07-11 09:27 am UTC (link)
Most parts of the border are unmarked; it's only the dmz that's heavily armed/fortified. You could wander right in and not know you are there on the Chinese border.

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(no subject) - [info]just_a_boy, 2009-07-11 10:32 am UTC (Expand)
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[info]ricour
2009-07-11 10:51 am UTC (link)
North Korea is one of the most literate countries in the world, with an average literacy rate of 99% :) :)

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[info]megalixer
2009-07-11 01:43 pm UTC (link)
You'd trust a statistic that their government puts out? This is the same country that puts up propaganda villages.

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[info]thatsaid
2009-07-11 12:05 pm UTC (link)
I found this site the other day that does organized tours to North Korea, and I want to go so fucking badly, omg. Putting it on my list of things to accomplish before I die.

http://www.koryogroup.com/

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[info]healthypanda
2009-07-11 03:00 pm UTC (link)
You couldn't pay me to do that. I have no interest in traveling to a country that doesn't have any diplomatic relations with the US.

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[info]forgethissmile
2009-07-11 01:54 pm UTC (link)
I really hope they're not in the labor camp.

And it's nice to see that something is being done. I worried that it would end up being dropped.

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[info]andkatewaslike
2009-07-11 04:58 pm UTC (link)
oh shit i forgot this was happening. damn my life without tv or internet.

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[info]missgoldfish
2009-07-12 04:03 am UTC (link)
if michael jackson was still alive they would be saved and out of north korea by now. thats all

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