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Katy Perry remains a fake untalented bitch while doing anything

(Sorry y'all, I hate Katy Perry too - and a big FUCK YOU, Katy Kats -- but this article and some of the others it links to are calling KP on her BS. The tl;dr parts are in red for easy reading. cajcameron/"Hot Youtuber", come save us!)



Well, it’s official. It’s cool to make fun of gay people again.

How do we know? Because the folks in Medialand told us as much by relentlessly cheerleading two gay-unfriendly songs by newcomer Katy Perry: “Ur So Gay” and “I Kissed a Girl.” The first derides an emo guy with a barrage of gay stereotypes that were cliché even in Boy George’s heyday. The second addresses same-sex kissing (and, by extension, bisexuality) by putting forth the judgment that such a smooch is “not what, good girls do… not how they should behave.”

Although these tunes have definitely amused mainstream listeners, with “I Kissed a Girl” staying at No. 1 for several weeks, they’ve been less welcome by some members of the gay community and the alternative press.

Blogger Duane Moody, for example, asked “What Do You Have Against Gay People, Katy Perry?” The Washington Blade’s review lampooned Perry’s CD title, “One of the Boys” as “One of the Clueless.” It also singled out “Ur So Gay” as “a song that delivers no enjoyment, only confusion as to how anyone could be so shortsighted about its connotative meaning.” The Philadelphia Weekly was equally as unenthusiastic in its review.

The New Gay conducted a confrontational interview that had a rattled Perry actually say, “My closest friends happen to be gay.” She wasn’t being ironic. Celebrity blogger Mollygood pointed out Perry comes from a religious upbringing (she used to record Christian music as Katy Hudson) and in her New Gay interview, Perry talks about how in her “strict, suppressed household,” homosexuality was considered “wrong.” But as Mollygood also says, that’s not so far removed from the message she’s sending with her hit songs, whether she realizes it or not.

The feminist blog, Feministe, chimed in as well, with blogger Fatemeh accusing Perry of reinforcing old stereotypes and playing into gender clichés. The blog’s commenters were even more negative.

Clearly Perry, who is straight, is kidding around with these songs. Both are clever, if simplistic tunes and both obvious bids for attention — which the 23-year-old is definitely getting. But the real problem shouldn’t be with Perry herself. Artists in a free society should have the prerogative to say whatever they want, even if it’s offensive to some.



Media hypocrisy
The trouble has to do with media hypocrisy. For over a decade, anti-gay prejudice messages have been put forth in everything from public service announcements to movies to award shows. Because of this and some societal factors, a mindset has taken hold (especially among people under age 30) where deriding someone for being gay is just not done.

But that was so yesterday. Once the media found it had a hot babe with a smart mouth to promote, their tune changed pretty quickly. “Ur So Gay” became the toast of MTV, probably because it played into the popular trend of male bashing. “I Kissed a Girl,” with its “Girls Gone Wild” overtones followed, and now Katy Perry is the “it girl,” with every writer apparently legally required to call her “sassy” and “rebellious.” Of course the “rebellion” comes neatly packaged courtesy of the Capitol Music Group.

Not only is the media sending a mixed message in heralding Perry, they’re undermining any stand they might want to take in support of gays in the future. How can anyone heed their warnings not to disrespect gays when they roll out the red carpet for an artist who has done exactly that? The real point seems to be they’ll do anything for an audience.

‘Ur so….What?’
The litmus test of hypocrisy here is that if you substituted a different minority in Perry’s tunes, they’d never get airplay. “I Kissed a Black Guy” or “Ur So Korean” would not be Top 40 bound. For that matter, a song called “I Kissed a Boy,” sung by a guy, would probably die on the vine.

Ethnic jabs are now largely seen as déclassé and gay insults were following suit. But now those insults have returned — with an inferred stamp of approval, no less. The media have used some discretion in the past, like when MTV nixed airing Prodigy’s “Smack My Bitch Up.” You’d think some judgment might have been used here, considering that gay teens attempt suicide four times as much as straight kids.

This isn’t a call for a ban on either song, just a question about why the high holy mass treatment is given to some politically incorrect works of art and not others. Let’s look to the past for a good example: It was one thing to have Frank Zappa’s 1979 song “Jewish Princess” known only as a below-the-radar satire (which in itself caused protests). But had that song been sent blaring from every radio in the country, it would have sent another message to the Jewish community

Perry’s supporters note she’s bringing up issues that used to be whitewashed. That’s true, but we live in a more gay-friendly world now. TV has a gay talk show host whose biggest recent controversy was about dog adoption, not sexuality. The biggest pop star of the 1970s is out and has the appellation “Sir” before his name. Doogie Howser’s coming out elicited…indifference. “Ur So Gay” and “I Kissed a Girl” aren’t so much starting a discussion as reviving one — the juvenile one we used to hear in the pre-Ellen era.

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It’s fine if the media wants to give a big promotional push to songs with unpleasant messages. They just need to be equal opportunity offenders, so to speak. If that ever comes to pass, I respectfully request MTV lift their broadcast ban on the God-des & She’s “Lick It” and 50 Cent’s “I Still Kill.”

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[info]helpme__rhonda
2008-07-22 11:39 pm UTC (link)
I hate "I Kissed a Girl". It's so fucking annoying.

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[info]thisbe
2008-07-23 12:12 am UTC (link)
i thought it was catchy and fun
until i actually listened to it... and paid attention to what she's saying & then i deleted her from my life....


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[info]rlmoonyk
2008-07-22 11:39 pm UTC (link)
best week ever had her on
just keep on spinning down

the soup ftw

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[info]ant_flow
2008-07-22 11:41 pm UTC (link)
I always thought BWE copied ONTD anyway

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[info]beautyispower
2008-07-22 11:41 pm UTC (link)
interesting! still a catchy song.

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[info]stonedme
2008-07-22 11:42 pm UTC (link)
she has nothing against gay people. she's just joking. she has a lot of gay friends.

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[info]xr2
2008-07-22 11:44 pm UTC (link)
wow really! how cool...i have black friends!!!!!!!

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[info]thatshot
2008-07-22 11:42 pm UTC (link)
I kissed a girl is amazing tbqh.

not only is it a good song at a party, its a good sex song, head bopping song, dance song... etc.

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[info]xr2
2008-07-22 11:43 pm UTC (link)
lol i hate this dumb bitch

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[info]sea_waves
2008-07-22 11:44 pm UTC (link)
love your icon

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[info]myprettycabinet
2008-07-22 11:43 pm UTC (link)
Fuck her.

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[info]ydna2003
2008-07-22 11:43 pm UTC (link)
uhm, yeah, im gay and i can definitely say that its not really NORMAL.

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[info]ant_flow
2008-07-23 12:12 am UTC (link)
ikr. i hate this bish. she might not mean to be offensive but the fact that she's totally clueless and unapologetic about it just makes her all the more ignorant.

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[info]sea_waves
2008-07-22 11:44 pm UTC (link)
The original "I kissed a girl" was so much better.

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[info]you_hermit_crab
2008-07-22 11:54 pm UTC (link)
I agree!

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[info]itapyourphone
2008-07-22 11:45 pm UTC (link)
I don't care if "I Kissed a Girl" isn't supposed to be offensive to gay people.... her music is offensive to my eardrums and whenever I hear her voice I want to vomit.

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[info]crazyfreakyaj
2008-07-23 08:23 am UTC (link)
YES.

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[info]smirk_dog
2008-07-22 11:45 pm UTC (link)
I hate this bitch's songs.

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[info]instantnooodles
2008-07-22 11:46 pm UTC (link)
her music is mediocre, yet catchy.
really catchy.

ihateher.

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[info]breitasparrow
2008-07-22 11:46 pm UTC (link)
They're right, if a guy sang a song about kissing a guy, it would die on the vine. It's just wrong. :(

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[info]groovylilkitten
2008-07-22 11:48 pm UTC (link)
It pretty much did. Some guy tried to do a spoof, and it just didn't work.

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[info]promisemewings
2008-07-22 11:46 pm UTC (link)
So what? Is she a lesbian or not? Or just bi-curious, or just a flat-out hypocrate like those girls from t.A.T.u.?

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[info]xr2
2008-07-22 11:48 pm UTC (link)
hypocritical ex-Christian singer trying to be edgy.

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[info]surferxchris
2008-07-22 11:47 pm UTC (link)
a song called “I Kissed a Boy,” sung by a guy, would probably die on the vine

so fucking true.

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[info]offyourhead
2008-07-22 11:47 pm UTC (link)
ugh why is I Kiss A Girl this summer's Umbrella

talk about downgrade

she irritates me so much

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[info]x_neverenough
2008-07-22 11:47 pm UTC (link)
i kissed a girl is probably the worst song on radio today

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[info]hardcoresince3
2008-07-22 11:49 pm UTC (link)
iawtc
idg why people say it's catchy. it isn't.

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[info]_____chiller
2008-07-22 11:48 pm UTC (link)
Sorry to say, but her stuff is catchy...

Can't deny :/

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[info]instantnooodles
2008-07-22 11:49 pm UTC (link)
haha same, i do not like the song but i catch myself singing it. :x

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[info]joycelene
2008-07-22 11:48 pm UTC (link)
I'm loving her sunglasses. Anyone know where I can pick up a pair?

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[info]instantnooodles
2008-07-22 11:50 pm UTC (link)
Urban Outfitters. Pacsun. Street Vendors lol.

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[info]hugmeimdirty
2008-07-22 11:49 pm UTC (link)
People need to chill out and lighten up. It's a cutesy pop song you know is catchy but you don't want to admit it. Waaaay more offensive songs about questionable subject matter (SOULJA BOY, ANYONE?) have become popular. Not everything is about ~politics~.

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[info]withoutyoursmil
2008-07-23 12:00 am UTC (link)
WRD.

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[info]hardcoresince3
2008-07-22 11:49 pm UTC (link)
iawtp.
I'm glad someone other than a random blogger is calling her out on her crap

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[info]offyourhead
2008-07-22 11:49 pm UTC (link)

sam sparro should cover it but like

I kissed a boy and i liked it
i hope his girlfriend don't mind it

etc

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[info]stonedme
2008-07-22 11:50 pm UTC (link)
lol!

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..because i said i would & i'm true to my word.
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2008-07-22 11:50 pm UTC (link)

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Re: ..because i said i would & i'm true to my word.
[info]itapyourphone
2008-07-22 11:52 pm UTC (link)
EPIC WIN

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Re: ..because i said i would & i'm true to my word. - [info]ericasays, 2008-07-22 11:54 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: ..because i said i would & i'm true to my word. - [info]hardcoresince3, 2008-07-22 11:56 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: ..because i said i would & i'm true to my word. - [info]instantnooodles, 2008-07-22 11:58 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: ..because i said i would & i'm true to my word. - [info]thecoldestheart, 2008-07-23 12:00 am UTC (Expand)
Re: ..because i said i would & i'm true to my word. - [info]instantnooodles, 2008-07-23 12:05 am UTC (Expand)
Re: ..because i said i would & i'm true to my word. - [info]thecoldestheart, 2008-07-23 12:07 am UTC (Expand)
Re: ..because i said i would & i'm true to my word. - [info]beatslikebombs, 2008-07-23 12:54 am UTC (Expand)
Re: ..because i said i would & i'm true to my word. - [info]summergirl719, 2008-07-23 12:01 am UTC (Expand)
Re: ..because i said i would & i'm true to my word. - [info]thecoldestheart, 2008-07-23 12:03 am UTC (Expand)
Re: ..because i said i would & i'm true to my word. - [info]summergirl719, 2008-07-23 12:13 am UTC (Expand)
Re: ..because i said i would & i'm true to my word. - [info]ant_flow, 2008-07-23 12:24 am UTC (Expand)
Re: ..because i said i would & i'm true to my word. - [info]breitasparrow, 2008-07-23 12:19 am UTC (Expand)
Re: ..because i said i would & i'm true to my word. - [info]cherrynorth, 2008-07-23 12:27 am UTC (Expand)
Re: ..because i said i would & i'm true to my word. - [info]girlyevil, 2008-07-23 12:43 am UTC (Expand)
Re: ..because i said i would & i'm true to my word. - [info]beatslikebombs, 2008-07-23 12:55 am UTC (Expand)
Re: ..because i said i would & i'm true to my word. - [info]laurie_springs, 2008-07-23 12:58 am UTC (Expand)

[info]my_vampyre_eyes
2008-07-22 11:50 pm UTC (link)
Fuck this bitch.

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