Amelia Heinle ([info]amelia_heinle) wrote in [info]ohnotheydidnt,
@ 2007-10-02 00:44:00
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Is the world finally ready for Guns N' Roses' Democracy?
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With Chinese Democracy now available to pre-buy on Amazon, and with the first single having been leaked onto the net (you'll have to dig around a bit for it), it appears that the album will get a 2007 release.

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Not since The Beach Boys' Smile has an unreleased music album been so mythologised. Books will be written about the extraordinary circumstances surrounding the work, and how Chinese Democracy is now, officially, the most expensive album never released.

The sessions began in 1994 for an album that was supposed to be a follow-up to Use Your Illusion . Since then Guns N' Roses have changed personnel, a small army of musicians have been through the studio's revolving door, four producers have walked out on the project, and so many different studios have been used that the sleeve notes will read like an atlas.

Axl Rose was so moved by the shenanigans surrounding the recording of Chinese Democracy that he released an uncharacteristically coherent and contrite message on the band's website: "To say the making of this album has been an unbearably long and incomprehensible journey would be an understatement. Overcoming the endless and insane amount of obstacles faced by all involved, notwithstanding the emotional challenges endured by everyone has at times seemed like a bad dream in which one waked up only to find that they're still in the nightmare. Unfortunately, this time it's been played out for over a decade in real life."

From the little leaks here and there, it appears that Guns N' Roses have gone for a more Nine Inch Nails sound (which was the very reason why Slash left the band), and that the songs sound robust if not a bit (hardly surprisingly) dated.

What chance will Chinese Democracy have when it lands in the record shops? Even if, as early indications point to, it is a very good album, will that be enough? The only comparable big-name band to have such a long gap between albums was The Stone Roses. Five years passed between their debut and follow-up Second Coming and, burdened by so much expectation, they simply couldn't deliver. The Stone Roses never really recovered from the loss of momentum and eventually broke up.

By a spooky coincidence, both Second Coming and Chinese Democracy are on the Geffen Records label. You'd think that the company would have learned their lesson first time around, but the circumstances are different here: Guns N' Roses 2007 are a completely different band than Guns N' Roses 1994. Most bands have deadlines built into their contracts as to when they have to deliver albums, but simply because Guns N' Roses (with an astonishing 90 millions album sold worldwide) turn over so much dosh for Geffen (the company would be on about $6-$7 of every Guns N' Roses album sold), the band are the one giving it the "you'll get it when you get it" line.

Even fellow bands are so intrigued by the continuing non-release that one, punk- poppers Offspring, called their 2003 album Chinese Democracy: You Snooze, You Lose . The band later said it was just an April fool joke and used the title Splinter ; others will say they were scared off by Guns N' Roses' lawyers.

You can confidently expect Chinese Democracy before the end of October. But I'm still hedging my bets on October of what year.


I'm sorry, but I am still far too in love with Axl Rose to put up a photo of him post-1993. You'll know I'm over him when I post current photos of him.

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[info]the_evident
2007-10-02 06:55 am UTC (link)
N

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[info]barackhussein
2007-10-02 06:59 am UTC (link)
No

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[info]honeypants
2007-10-02 06:59 am UTC (link)
Lol, oh god. They still have fans?

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[info]jasonbeast
2007-10-02 07:00 am UTC (link)
No, thank you.

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[info]creepy_molester
2007-10-02 07:11 am UTC (link)
HAHA nice microphone Axl

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[info]miao0726
2007-10-02 07:13 am UTC (link)
i have given up on this cd a long long time ago

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[info]muselesspretty
2007-10-02 07:18 am UTC (link)
After waiting forever, does the world even care?

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[info]numbedtoe
2007-10-02 07:19 am UTC (link)
honestly, I'll believe it when I see it, as in, see the damn thing in the stores. I could have sworn they offered it on amazon once before.
And I'm sure it'll tank, even if were a decent album, for those who care, there is to much to live up to now.

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[info]ultra_obscene84
2007-10-02 07:24 am UTC (link)
Finally! What the hell? It's been what, 14 or 15 years they've talking about the Chinese Democracy record.

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[info]letmeupgradeu
2007-10-02 07:37 am UTC (link)
DO NOT WANT

ur time is over, axl.

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[info]chiss
2007-10-02 07:44 am UTC (link)
No.

Racist asshole.

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[info]spiffyloser
2007-10-02 04:24 pm UTC (link)
I would argue that he's not so much racist as he is batshit insane and delusional. :/

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[info]leanna
2007-10-02 07:59 am UTC (link)
I don't care, Axl Rose used to be SO. HOT.

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[info]the_jet_set
2007-10-02 08:47 am UTC (link)
im actually more impressed that the stone roses got mentioned on ONTD. how random

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[info]blinditem
2007-10-02 03:20 pm UTC (link)
iawtc

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[info]bob_always_wins
2007-10-02 11:21 am UTC (link)
my friend is OBSESSED w/ GNR. :/

velvet revolver >>>>>>>>>>>>> gnr.

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[info]flying_pandas
2007-10-02 05:36 pm UTC (link)
what planet are you on that VR > GNR. Don't get me wrong, anything with Slash attached I'm a fan of, but no one, NO ONE, can deny the greatness that was GNR. (though of course not the current line up of GNR if that's what you were talking about, if so, just disregard my little ramble)

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[info]violentdelight
2007-10-02 11:38 am UTC (link)

YES PLEASE.

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[info]sleeping_days
2007-10-02 12:38 pm UTC (link)
"I'm sorry, but I am still far too in love with Axl Rose to put up a photo of him post-1993. You'll know I'm over him when I post current photos of him."


don't be sorry... I still live pre- plastic surgery days

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[info]unseelie_sidhe
2007-10-02 02:20 pm UTC (link)
agree, I still love pre-1993 Axl with a deep passion.

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[info]somefantastic
2007-10-02 12:54 pm UTC (link)
I don't believe it.

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[info]jimb
2007-10-02 01:51 pm UTC (link)
I am convinced that this album will sell, literally, dozens of copies. It won't go platinum or gold. It will go aluminum.

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[info]asouthernthing
2007-10-02 03:11 pm UTC (link)
LOLZ

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[info]harleygirlsd
2007-10-02 03:29 pm UTC (link)
ROTFL! ALUMINUM!

X)

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[info]jimb
2007-10-02 03:32 pm UTC (link)

I'll have to find out if tin is even less valuable than aluminum.

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[info]healthypanda
2007-10-02 04:49 pm UTC (link)
That made me lol.

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[info]amodelcitizen
2007-10-02 01:55 pm UTC (link)
What a loser. And a homophobe to boot.

The album will sell less than Paris', mark my words.

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[info]estrange
2007-10-02 02:02 pm UTC (link)
WHere can you pre-order this on Amazon?

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[info]madamwindmill
2007-10-02 02:32 pm UTC (link)
D: Your icon! Those were the days :(

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[info]estrange
2007-10-02 02:39 pm UTC (link)
I love Axl!!

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[info]platinumskies
2007-10-02 02:15 pm UTC (link)
Why did they name the tour the chinese democracy tour when the album wasnt even out yet????

I went to see them in Sydney, Axls voice just gets better and better.

But no gunners album will ever beat 'use your illusion'

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[info]kristinchaos
2007-10-02 02:28 pm UTC (link)
Will not believe it until I physically see it in front of me.
I'm pretty sure this has happened before (pre-sale). He'll get mad at the drummer over something and they'll have to rewrite the entire thing again.

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[info]madamwindmill
2007-10-02 02:32 pm UTC (link)
I used to love you, Axl, but I had to kill you

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[info]asouthernthing
2007-10-02 03:10 pm UTC (link)
I think the odds of Axl Rose dropping dead in October are higher than Chinese Democracy coming out in October.

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[info]primero431
2007-10-02 03:11 pm UTC (link)
I'm sorry, but I am still far too in love with Axl Rose to put up a photo of him post-1993.

And I love you for it.

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[info]harleygirlsd
2007-10-02 03:30 pm UTC (link)
I'm sorry, but I am still far too in love with Axl Rose to put up a photo of him post-1993.

You and me both, bb. THOSE were the days! *sigh*

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[info]healthypanda
2007-10-02 04:49 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, he's pretty scary looking now.

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[info]tyger_fied
2007-10-02 03:38 pm UTC (link)
what do you wanna bet in dear Axl's mind half the world has been on the edge of it's seat waiting for this to finally come out when in reality half the world stopped caring the last three times it was supposedly set for release and then pulled at the last second?

I respect(ed) Axl as much as anyone else back in the day but seriously, whats the point of GNR without Slash?

Sorry bb, you had your day in the sun.

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[info]call_me_cash
2007-10-02 03:46 pm UTC (link)
I can't believe they are actually going to try and release this. Hilarious!

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[info]spiffyloser
2007-10-02 04:25 pm UTC (link)
LOL I JUST NOTICED YOUR ICON. NICE :D

Axl/Slash are my OTP! ^___^

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[info]healthypanda
2007-10-02 04:48 pm UTC (link)
I'm not believing this until I actually see the album in stores. I've been hearing about Chinese Democracy for at least the past 6 years.

I bet it will suck, btw.

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[info]smokeandwine
2007-10-02 05:07 pm UTC (link)
it's hard to be a gnr fan and believe these articles when they have no sources. the only thing that is remotely new news is that theres a preorder on the uk version of amazon. but the leaked singles? dude, totally the same demos that leaked early like.. last year. and an old news bulletin posted by axl?

bah! all speculation.

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[info]eternal_llama
2007-10-02 05:23 pm UTC (link)
There aren't enough pictures of Axl in this post.

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[info]sabrina_bobina
2007-10-02 05:44 pm UTC (link)
I have waited long enough. I am still a little curious about the leaked single.

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[info]jesus_shaves
2007-10-02 09:49 pm UTC (link)
so it is finally going to happen? :D

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