i don't know ([info]parapazzi) wrote in [info]ohnotheydidnt,
@ 2007-05-10 01:48:00
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Smashing Pumpkins Robbed — Plus, Has New Lineup Already Been Revealed?
Two 21-year-olds nabbed for stealing photos, guitar picks from Chicago rehearsal space.

Smashing Pumpkins fans are eager to find out who is joining Billy Corgan and drummer Jimmy Chamberlin in the soon-to-relaunch group and to hear ita upcoming reunion album, Zeitgeist. But a pair of 21-year-old men might have taken their fandom a bit too far over the weekend.

At the same time, MTV News reached out to the woman who has reportedly been tapped to be the new Pumpkins bassist and found out ... well, that we'll all find out who's joining Jimmy and Billy in a few weeks (see "Smashing Pumpkins Reunion Is Under Way, According To Sources" and "Smashing Pumpkins Drummer Offers More Clues About Forthcoming LP").

Joshua Kuhl of Madison, Wisconsin, and Simon Brown of Rockford, Illinois, allegedly broke into a Chicago rehearsal space being used by the Pumpkins on Friday night and made off with three guitar picks and 39 photographs that police suspect the men may have tried to sell online, according to Chicago Police Department spokesman Marcel Bright. The pair were arrested Monday and charged with felony burglary after other tenants of the building provided a description that led police to the suspects.

Bright did not know how many of the photos — which were briefly posted on Pumpkins fan site Netphoria.org — were discovered during the arrests. According to Netphoria webmaster Andrew Pakula, one of the two suspects posted the photos along with information about the theft. Among the allegedly pilfered shots that Bright said police suspect were slated for use in the album packaging and promotional materials are images of Paris Hilton posing in front of an exploding bomb, the grim reaper at a podium featuring the presidential seal with a black-and-white Pumpkins flag in the back, a person in a business suit wearing a devil mask while being crucified, five blond children saluting, a close-up of Corgan in a hoodie and another of him standing next to a topless woman.

The band's management released a statement on Tuesday confirming that the burglary had taken place. "The two people who are now in jail illegally gained access to the band's private space and stole various items belonging to them over the course of several hours while the band had left for the evening," the statement read. "The band's management says the group feels their rights have been violated by this crime and will always pursue their rights and the law to protect their property and the safety of themselves, their families and their fans."

A group spokesperson would not comment on what images were taken or what they were intended for.

A statement posted on Netphoria by the moderator confirmed that the photos were briefly available and chided the overzealous fans for crossing a line. "What this person did amounts to theft and [the] band takes this very seriously as does Netphoria. I know everyone here is hungry for more information on the new album but this is not the way to go about it. Nobody here should condone or be supportive of the actions this individual took. It is unfortunate that the person chose Netphoria to leak these stolen works. Netphoria has always been a free and open forum without hard censorship but obviously in a case like this a line was crossed and I will not tolerate actions like this which is why numerous posts and threads were deleted last night."

The shots were taken down at the band's request, according to the post. Brown and Kuhl appeared on Tuesday in bond court, where each was ordered to be held on $100,000 bond and scheduled to appear in court again on Monday. A court spokesperson was not able to confirm if the two were released on bond pending their next court date.

Kuhl and Brown don't appear to have divulged the biggest secret of all: Just who is in the Pumpkins these days? At South by Southwest in March, former guitarist James Iha confirmed to MTV News that he was not onboard, and original bassist D'arcy Wretzky has virtually disappeared since leaving the group in 1999.

The group's publicist, Mitch Schneider, said Pumpkins management has not yet confirmed the lineup to him, but the Chicago Tribune recently reported that the group's new bassist is Ginger Reyes (formerly of the Halo Friendlies) and Iha's replacement is Jeff Schroeder, guitarist for the obscure Southern California noise-pop band Lassie Foundation.

On Wednesday (May 9), MTV News reached Reyes — whose defunct girl-pop group is best known for landing the song "Me vs. the World" on the 2003 "Freaky Friday" soundtrack — to get confirmation that she's the new Pumpkins bassist. She said she couldn't comment but confirmed that she's still making music and that she might have something to say "in a few weeks." Schroeder could not be reached for comment.

Here are the pictures:




source = mtv.com


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[info]apothecaries
2007-05-09 10:06 pm UTC (link)
Bitch thats what you get. Altho when I met him he was nice. So I shouldn't be mean.

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[info]sasha10186
2007-05-09 10:06 pm UTC (link)
lol I saw that picture of Kirsten Dunst above this post and I saw the pic on this post and I thought this was also about her

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[info]halcyontempest
2007-05-10 01:26 am UTC (link)
Yes! I was like "Why does Kirsten Dunst have a beard?" and then "Oh wait, that's Billy Corgan." Lmao! He really does look like a male version of Dunst in that pic. It's kinda creepy.

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[info]midnightbarber
2007-05-09 10:07 pm UTC (link)
The photos are such shit, I really hope that they are neither the artwork or a video.

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[info]hot_kachina
2007-05-09 10:29 pm UTC (link)
you dont happen to know where i can find said picutures?

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(no subject) - [info]parapazzi, 2007-05-09 10:30 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]cpl593h, 2007-05-09 10:32 pm UTC (Expand)
DISCUSSION POINT:
[info]theonlykow
2007-05-09 10:10 pm UTC (link)
Is it really the Smashing Pumpkins without James Iha, y/n?

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Re: DISCUSSION POINT:
[info]morsmordra
2007-05-09 10:15 pm UTC (link)
n, as much as i love them. it's like zwan part II, stylistically aiming for more than pumpkin than zwan.

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Re: DISCUSSION POINT: - [info]morsmordra, 2007-05-09 10:15 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: DISCUSSION POINT: - [info]cpl593h, 2007-05-09 10:30 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: DISCUSSION POINT: - [info]alanshepard, 2007-05-09 10:55 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: DISCUSSION POINT: - [info]foreverbeingnow, 2007-05-09 11:16 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: DISCUSSION POINT: - [info]itsmemodean, 2007-05-09 11:56 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: DISCUSSION POINT: - [info]cpl593h, 2007-05-10 12:12 am UTC (Expand)
Re: DISCUSSION POINT: - [info]june_glasschild, 2007-05-10 01:00 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: DISCUSSION POINT: - [info]paparatti, 2007-05-09 11:12 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: DISCUSSION POINT: - [info]13crimes, 2007-05-09 11:34 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: DISCUSSION POINT: - [info]cpl593h, 2007-05-10 12:12 am UTC (Expand)
Re: DISCUSSION POINT: - [info]13crimes, 2007-05-10 01:25 am UTC (Expand)
Re: DISCUSSION POINT: - [info]june_glasschild, 2007-05-10 01:11 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: DISCUSSION POINT: - [info]chibi_pink, 2007-05-10 01:07 am UTC (Expand)
Re: DISCUSSION POINT: - [info]finchburg, 2007-05-10 03:18 am UTC (Expand)
Re: DISCUSSION POINT: - [info]june_glasschild, 2007-05-10 01:19 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]hclay
2007-05-09 10:13 pm UTC (link)
Billy Corgan's nasally, whiny voice tortured me through my teen years, so I really hope that this album doesn't get much play.

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[info]goldigurl
2007-05-09 10:14 pm UTC (link)
I used to love them. I hope something decent returns.

Now with Amy Lee...

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[info]ivanafkncupcake
2007-05-09 10:15 pm UTC (link)
don't worry, billy.

i'm sure courtney will give them back if you just ask nicely.

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[info]schonste
2007-05-09 10:16 pm UTC (link)
Christ, Billy, shave your face, you look like crap.

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[info]smashpumpkins21
2007-05-09 10:19 pm UTC (link)
somehow billy looks better than ever. huh.

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[info]lovepollution
2007-05-09 10:26 pm UTC (link)
IAWTC.

Also, someone must have those pics saved, so post 'em please anyone?

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(no subject) - [info]parapazzi, 2007-05-09 10:29 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]cpl593h
2007-05-09 10:32 pm UTC (link)
Okay I knew it.

I knew this was going to be a political album and now I'm kinda pissed. I listen to and love SP because they are NOT POLITICAL. I want more lyrics about how Billy Corgan is jealous of Jesus and how God speaks to him through the radio. More songs about how you can't find the love of your life, less about GWB PLEASE.

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[info]loveporfavor
2007-05-10 05:35 am UTC (link)
IAWTC!!!

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[info]cpl593h
2007-05-09 10:33 pm UTC (link)
Oh yeah, all this being said I love Netphoria and troll it regularly. They are such assholes.

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[info]dylan_murphy
2007-05-09 10:34 pm UTC (link)
I can't think of it offhand, but I remember one of them coming out on the Simpsons awhile back. Homer's response was priceless when they introduced themselves.

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[info]cpl593h
2007-05-09 10:35 pm UTC (link)
"Billy Corgan, Smashing Pumpkins."
"Homer Simpson, smiling politely."

I ama nerd.

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(no subject) - [info]dylan_murphy, 2007-05-09 10:38 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]hot_kachina
2007-05-09 10:34 pm UTC (link)
damn them pics look like someone took them off of a tv....i guess thats their music video?

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[info]eternaldesire
2007-05-09 10:45 pm UTC (link)
billy

Is it just me or is he kinda attractive in this pic?

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[info]cpl593h
2007-05-09 10:47 pm UTC (link)
lol he is so goofy looking irl though

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(no subject) - [info]eternaldesire, 2007-05-09 10:49 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]paparatti, 2007-05-09 11:16 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]eternaldesire, 2007-05-09 11:34 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]13crimes, 2007-05-09 11:32 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]cpl593h, 2007-05-10 12:14 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]13crimes, 2007-05-10 01:24 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]resided, 2007-05-10 09:34 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]chibi_pink, 2007-05-10 01:07 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]sealikewind, 2007-05-10 02:13 am UTC (Expand)
Kirsten Dunst with a mustache?
[info]hammiesmommy
2007-05-09 10:48 pm UTC (link)
Anyone else think Billy Corgan looks like Kirsten Dunst with a mustache in that main picture?

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I think I finally figured it out
[info]belladonnastrap
2007-05-09 10:55 pm UTC (link)
I think I figured out WHY this makes me so pissed off (reunited pumpkins, not the theft tho I couldn't care less anymore).

Billy didn't get the band back together because he MISSED playing with Jimmy. He got the band back together because he "wanted to be everyones favourite band" thereby effectively telling the thousands of us who stuck by the band that we weren't good enough for him. Those of who SLEPT ON A FUCKING SIDEWALK IN NEGATIVE DEGREE WEATHER TO SEE HIS BAND weren't good enough for him. No.

I think that's what pisses me off the most about this entire thing (tho I miss James/D'Arcy something fierce but at least with James I can see him at every Ivy concert in NYC).

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Re: I think I finally figured it out
[info]13crimes
2007-05-09 11:31 pm UTC (link)
well put. i may have been slow on the uptake (i didn't get into them until adore came out), but i still agree with this.

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Re: I think I finally figured it out - [info]cpl593h, 2007-05-10 12:18 am UTC (Expand)
Re: I think I finally figured it out - [info]belladonnastrap, 2007-05-10 01:33 am UTC (Expand)

[info]chiss
2007-05-09 10:58 pm UTC (link)
...why the fuck is there a photo. of. paris.

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[info]paparatti
2007-05-09 11:17 pm UTC (link)
Why is this question so far down the comments :( It should be first, it's so WTF.

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(no subject) - [info]100stars, 2007-05-10 04:11 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]castaveron
2007-05-09 11:01 pm UTC (link)
That looks like an early 90s video. :/

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[info]13crimes
2007-05-09 11:30 pm UTC (link)
early 90's videos were good. videos blow now.

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[info]trash____
2007-05-09 11:03 pm UTC (link)
Ginger Reyes - don't bullshit me guys. I like her but...that's just awkward.

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[info]theflamewithin
2007-05-09 11:08 pm UTC (link)
OMG 3 guitar picks! It's the end of the world!

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[info]woah_fierce
2007-05-09 11:13 pm UTC (link)
i will be seeing them July 7 and they better play the classics

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[info]craigersofdoom
2007-05-09 11:22 pm UTC (link)
I'm excited. The "Mellon Collie" imagery in a new era. More literal.

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[info]loveporfavor
2007-05-10 05:36 am UTC (link)
LOVE your userpic.

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[info]13crimes
2007-05-09 11:28 pm UTC (link)
- reunion lol
- weird
-billy's lookin' good

i wish i could get behind this new album, but i just can't. LET IT GO BIILY PLEASE.

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[info]aloneinthetown
2007-05-10 12:12 am UTC (link)
My sister was the hugest Pumpkins fan back in the 90s (her teen angst years) and she told me she met Billy and cried when he gave her a hug. LOLZ.

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[info]cpl593h
2007-05-10 12:18 am UTC (link)
Lol I shook his hand and I totally cried.

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(no subject) - [info]climatprovoque, 2007-05-10 12:49 am UTC (Expand)

[info]climatprovoque
2007-05-10 12:45 am UTC (link)
give it up man, its over and let it die peacefully. don't be the rolling stones.

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