tri_blog ([info]tri_blog) wrote in [info]obama_2008,
@ 2008-05-14 03:59:00
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Terry McAuliffe argues with "no one." Chris Matthews's 14 rules of politics.
One of the funniest parts of last night's MSNBC coverage: Terry McAuliffe argues with "no one."

Chris Matthews had this hilarious conversation with the Clinton campaign manager, trying to figure out Hillary's twisted logic for continuing her campaign.

Chris's point: "We media and pundits WOULD LOVE for this to go all the way to the convention. We love the thrill of not knowing who the nominee is 5 minutes before the final vote. But wake up! We're not the ones telling Hillary to quit. It's the math."



I love Chris Matthews. He's always funny and perceptive. I own his 1988 book Hardball : How Politics Is Played Told By One Who Knows The Game, sort of a modern Machiavelli's The Prince, a guide for budding politicians.

In 1988, Chris Matthews set out to write an honest rulebook on how the game of politics is actually played. Matthews believes that the rules apply to life, not just to senators and congressmen. Here are his 14 rules of politics:

1. It is not who you know, it is who you get to know. Washington is like working in a big company where it is who you know is more important than what you know. The key to your success in life is based upon your personal relationships. Nearly everyone in Washington owes their job to a personal friend.

2. All politics is local.

3. It is better to receive than give. Ask for help. The more someone invests in you, the more committed they become to seeing you succeed. As Benjamin Franklin once said, "If you want to make a friend, let someone do you a favor."

4. Dance with the one that brung ya. It is about loyalty to your side. Think about the loyalty that Ronald Reagan had to the conservative movement.

5. Keep your enemies in front of you. Great politicians always stay on speaking terms with fierce opponents to show strength, obtain useful information and because they know that they may have to call on the opponent as an ally some day.

6. Don't get mad, don't get even, get ahead. Focus on getting past your adversaries.

7. Leave no shot unanswered. Always respond to attacks quickly and effectively by attacking the credibility of your opponent, ridicule your opponent, and reverse the attack so it backfires against your opponent.

8. Only talk when it improves the silence. Know when to speak and when to listen.

9. Always concede on principle. In many cases, the best way to achieve one's goal is to concede the argument. Great politicians often negotiate by telling their adversaries exactly what they want to hear. By conceding the principle at issue, they manipulate their critics into accepting their views.

10. Hang a lantern on your problem. When in doubt, get it out.

11. Spin, spin & spin. Always turn negatives into positives.

12. The press is the enemy.

13. Have the reputation of power. Political leaders become powerful by appearing powerful. There are six ways to appear powerful. They are: play your strengths, lowballing, sandbagging, creating new commandments, passing the buck, and put your opponent in a "put up or shut up" position.

14. Position yourself to the voters as they desire to see you.


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[info]dolcianiblows
2008-05-14 11:55 am UTC (link)
I think Chris Matthews is nuts, to be honest.

But, I have to say, Zell Miller challenging him to a duel never fails to make me laugh.

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[info]tri_blog
2008-05-14 12:02 pm UTC (link)
There has been talk about Chris running for Senate vs. Arlen Specter. Chris actually ran for Congress in 1974.

Naw, he's not crazy. He's zany, fun, and absolutely loves and breathes politics. That's why we love watching him.

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[info]dolcianiblows
2008-05-14 12:00 pm UTC (link)
And someone needs to unplug Terry McAuliffe for a little while. He's starting to short-circuit.

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[info]tri_blog
2008-05-14 12:07 pm UTC (link)
Politics = sales.

He reminds me of Paul from the Diamond Center, that fast-talking salesman from those TV commercials from the 90s.

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[info]truesunn
2008-05-14 12:27 pm UTC (link)
Oh, you must've missed the part in the speech she gave where Hillary is convinced that MI and FL are going to count in her favor and she'll have another 200 delegate cushion to play with added to the total...

(Just for the record, everytime she says she won Michigan I want to throw my TV out the window...)

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[info]tri_blog
2008-05-14 12:31 pm UTC (link)
I see you're from Michigan. What do the Michigonians think? Did you all vote for "uncommitted"? But wouldn't "uncommitted" just mean "everyone except Hillary"?

I don't hear a loud cry of Michigonians yelling "We've been disenfranchised! Let us vote!"

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[info]miss_opinion
2008-05-14 12:34 pm UTC (link)
"Michigonians"? is that what they're called? I learn so much here lol. I would have called them Michiganians :P

I love this quote about Clinton's state of mind : Slate.com

"...as my husband pointed out this morning, if the inability to concede error or defeat even in light of irrefutable, empirical evidence and in the face of spiraling support and tanking morale is feminism, George Bush must be the feminist icon of the ages," - Dahlia Lithwick.

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[info]tri_blog
2008-05-14 12:43 pm UTC (link)
Oops, it's supposed to be Michigander (instead of Michigeese.)

Haha! Touché, mon ami.

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[info]babigrl279
2008-05-14 12:52 pm UTC (link)
HAHA! I was born in Michigan and I could not wait to correct you, until I saw you figured it out. ;)

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[info]plumtreeblossom
2008-05-14 02:48 pm UTC (link)
At least Michiganders have a name. Up this-a-way, there is no single word that means "resident of Massachusetts," except of course for "Masshole." :-)

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[info]babigrl279
2008-05-14 09:04 pm UTC (link)
Awww, Masshole??!! I'm sorry, but I have to giggle at that.

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[info]xrobnx
2008-05-14 07:40 pm UTC (link)
Ooh I was gonna say that!

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[info]truesunn
2008-05-14 12:51 pm UTC (link)
There isn't any loud cry just yet, but you can bet there will be if they try to seat delegates. We voted "Uncommitted" but if you look at the number of voters who turned out, it's OBVIOUS that droves and droves did not vote at all. There was NOTHING on TV that I EVER saw stating that people could come vote "uncommitted" in the primary, all I ever saw was coverage that Obama and Edwards were off the ticket, end of story. I found out from MySpace and here, or I never would have known! I'm pretty net-savvy, so I have no clue how anyone without internet would have known to go vote "uncommitted".

As I've said before, you can say you're the winner of any contest you want when you don't have any opponents show up to rival you...

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[info]truesunn
2008-05-14 12:53 pm UTC (link)
Oh yeah, and last night (I forget who said it, some idiot man on Hillary's team) stated that Hillary couldn't help it that Barack removed his name from the ballot because he assumed he would loose HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA Nice, eh?

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Rewriting history
[info]tri_blog
2008-05-14 01:18 pm UTC (link)
I don't get why your Democratic Governor, Jennifer Granholm, broke the DNC rules. She says "We need to be heard," so she helped keep ALL your votes from counting. Arrogance! Throw her out in her next election. See her interview the day before the Michigan primary, where she gives these stupid excuses:

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Re: Rewriting history
[info]truesunn
2008-05-14 06:31 pm UTC (link)
Perhaps I'm biased, but from my perspective, MI has been the hardest hit of all through these slow times. I know 2 young families personally myself that had to let the bank reposesses their houses because they lost their jobs at the auto plants and couldn't sell them. In my eyes, we have more right than anyone to be heard in this election!

As far as Granholm is concerned, I can tell you she isn't very popular around my circle. I know MI people are ready for the kind of change Obama can bring us, if we're given the chance to say so...

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Re: Rewriting history
[info]tri_blog
2008-05-14 06:40 pm UTC (link)
Yes, but why couldn't Michigan have just joined the Super Tuesday states, or waited till later for the candidates to come to them? Ohio and Pennsylvania certainly didn't suffer media and candidate attention by waiting till later to have their primaries.

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Re: Rewriting history
[info]xrobnx
2008-05-14 07:57 pm UTC (link)
Indiana is in a similar boat. Manufacturing is one of our biggest sectors too, and it's rough here. Our local paper every day and I mean every day publishes between 1 and 3 notices of foreclosue in the legals section. Our county only has a population of about 21K so it seems like a high percentage to me, since this has gone on for over a year here. I realize MI has higher unemployment than anywhere else, but really your elected officials would have better served their constituents by following the rules.

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[info]tri_blog
2008-05-14 01:04 pm UTC (link)
Seating the Michigan delegate is sheer insanity. Ah, so voters were told the election wouldn't count, but many didn't know about voting "uncommitted."

Even Clinton said this in 2007:


Besides how blatantly unfair it is, "uncommitted" could have meant any other Democratic candidate, not just Obama.

How do the Clintons sleep at night?

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[info]nacho_cheese
2008-05-14 12:54 pm UTC (link)
everytime she says she won Michigan I want to throw my TV out the window...

Gah, seriously. I may be a Floridian, but I know that rules are rules, and I'm just glad that this election has been fair. I just hope they don't decide to suddenly turn around and play her game just for her satisfaction.

My boyfriend and I watched that video you posted, OP, this morning. We don't have MSNBC anymore (stupid Dish!), and Chris Matthews is one of the main reasons why we miss it. :) Ah well... it's now either FOX or CNN -- screw FOX.

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[info]tri_blog
2008-05-14 01:27 pm UTC (link)
Ah, a Floridian! Let me ask you the same thing. Do you hear an outcry from people in your state to "not be disenfranchised"?

Yeah, I wish I had cable---for Chris's sake! I watch all TV through the Internet.

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[info]nacho_cheese
2008-05-14 02:01 pm UTC (link)
Oddly enough, I hear that "disenfranchised" argument coming from many more Republicans than Democrats, which has always confused me. We Dems pretty much agree that what we as a state was wrong, and though it's not fault of our own, we're not going to try to have the rules changed. But those who obviously want Clinton in to give McCain an easy time are the ones who are complaining! It's sheer insanity.

Dude, I wish I could get internet TV at work! I hardly have time to watch it at home, and work has YouTube blocked, leading to interesting ways to search for videos that are supported here. ;) I really, really miss MSNBC.

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[info]nacho_cheese
2008-05-14 02:02 pm UTC (link)
Pardon any errors, grammatically or otherwise. Not running off enough sleep. ;)

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[info]daily_rant
2008-05-14 02:23 pm UTC (link)
just like when she says she won Texas I want to throw a brick through mine.

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[info]schmiss
2008-05-14 02:18 pm UTC (link)
Only talk when it improves the silence.

lmfao I love me some Chris Matthews, but somebody doesn't follow his own rules!

There was a hilarious profile in the NYT of him a month or so back. They set out to make him look like the village idiot but it was kind of endearing.

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[info]daily_rant
2008-05-14 02:24 pm UTC (link)
Sorry--that was just painful. I had to push stop.

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[info]buongiornodaisy
2008-05-14 03:50 pm UTC (link)
Terry McAuliffe is crazy.

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[info]phoenixdown7
2008-05-14 04:33 pm UTC (link)
Omg...Chris Matthews is just nuts. He tells Terry McCauliffe that he's arguing with 'no one', but I would be hard pressed to agree with that at all. Just look at the way the press handled the aftermath of N.C. and Indiana...I mean, Chris Matthews himself said 'and now we have a nominee'....

Seriously...I have to wonder if sometimes Chris Matthews is brain dead.

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[info]tri_blog
2008-05-14 04:37 pm UTC (link)
His point is they are arguing with reality---with the MATH. The pundits have been saying "we have a nominee" because it's mathematically impossible for Clinton to catch up---in pledged, super, and/or total delegates.

But the pundits, for their jobs, would LOVE for this nomination fight to stretch till August. They don't professionally, want it to end, as Terry McAuliffe keeps implying. It helps their ratings.

So people like Tim Russert keep saying: "We aren't telling Hillary to quit. But we ARE saying, 'The math doesn't make sense. What is your realistic scenario for victory?'"

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[info]xrobnx
2008-05-14 07:38 pm UTC (link)
I like how McAuliffe brings up these previous primaries that went to conventions, both in 1930 and 1984. The only problem with those is that we lost the generals in both instances he references!

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[info]scoobiedoggie
2008-05-14 08:23 pm UTC (link)
I think Terry needs a nap.

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