According to our initial ruleset, the should have and has begun at 1200 UTC on Monday, November 23rd. The game is now in session, and proposals can be made under the rules.
The nomination is as follows, a single proposal. Hence this poll will ask the question: do we start with the ruleset suggested, or shall we continue to seek a new one?
Poll #1482739
Open to: Friends, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 4
This poll shall remain open until Monday, November 16.
Poll #1482739
Open to: Friends, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 4
Shall the convention be closed and Game 4 begin with ![[info]](http://l-stat.livejournal.com/img/userinfo.gif){kind=small}
monkthatgotfunk's ruleset?
3 (75.0%)This poll shall remain open until Monday, November 16.
As the convention has been idle for two weeks, I hereby open up the floor for the proposal of new rulesets.
Naturally, there are no rules when the game is not in effect, but I suggest the following guidelines:
In a week and a half - Sunday, November 8th - I will review whatever proposals are current, and if it looks like people are ready to vote, I'll open a poll.
Naturally, there are no rules when the game is not in effect, but I suggest the following guidelines:
- Each current player (defined as members who have answered the player list poll) may post up to two (2) candidate rulesets for Game 4. These rulesets should not be ideas - requests for feedback on such can be posted, but will not be considered candidate rulesets.
- All rulesets shall be lj-cut. Do this by placing the string <lj-cut> before the first line of the ruleset and </lj-cut> after the final line.
- Rulesets should be formatted clearly. Anyone interested in seeing the HTML code of previous rulesets to base their style off of may email me - I'll send you an example - but any style is permissible so long as each rule is clearly numbered and separated.
In a week and a half - Sunday, November 8th - I will review whatever proposals are current, and if it looks like people are ready to vote, I'll open a poll.
As goes another game, so comes another player list poll! As before, the rules are simple:
Poll #1472970 Player List Poll - Game 4
Open to: All, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 6
When the game gets underway, the member list will be updated to match.
If you'd like to play, you should join the community (which may be done here - PB) and fill in the 'poll' below, so that we can be completely certain that we have an accurate list of players. Please do remember to join the community: if you don't, you won't be able to post proposals or vote. Please don't join the community if you're not intending to play; all the game posts will be public, so non-member watchers won't be missing anything.
If there's people on your flist who might like to play, please link them to this post. And if you'd like more information, feel free to comment here or ask one of the maintainers (
Poll #1472970 Player List Poll - Game 4
Open to: All, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 6
Would you like to play ![[info]](http://l-stat.livejournal.com/img/community.gif){kind=small}
nomicide?
When the game gets underway, the member list will be updated to match.
I hereby declare Game Three of nomicide Concluded, with palmer_kun the victor.
As no rules are presently in effect regarding a Constitutional Convention, I shall leave the operation of said Convention to its Head.palmer_kun, take it away!
nomicide Concluded, with palmer_kun the victor.As no rules are presently in effect regarding a Constitutional Convention, I shall leave the operation of said Convention to its Head.
palmer_kun, take it away!I apologize for missing this for a week, but we (very conveniently, it seems) have had a paradox halting play.
As you know, Bob, Session Thirty-Five had (1) no new proposals and (2) voting on Proposal 377 bypalmer_kun.
Note, then, the paradox.
1. If the session were to end, all current proposals receiving the votes to pass would have to go into effect.
2. However, if Proposal 377, which received the votes to pass, were in effect, the session would not end.
3. However, if the session were not to end, Proposal 377 would not go into effect.
4. However, if Proposal 377 were not in effect, the session would have to end.
I think, given the current situation, it would be appropriate to invoke Rule 215 and conclude the game withpalmer_kun the winner.
Comments and suggestions would be appreciated.
As you know, Bob, Session Thirty-Five had (1) no new proposals and (2) voting on Proposal 377 by
palmer_kun.Amend 337 to read
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The game will proceed by sessions, with each session lasting one or more intervals and beginning at the conclusion of the previous except where otherwise stated. Sessions will be given a number for reference, beginning with 0. Each session consists of four parts, as follows:
1. At the opening of each session, the session poll will be opened. This poll shall allow all eligible voters to vote on each rule change proposed in the previous session, in the form in which they were proposed at the close of the previous session.
2. During each session, players may propose rule changes according to the rules then in effect.
3. The community maintainers will post a reminder entry before 72 hours prior to the close of the session, and again between 29 and 19 hours prior to the close of the session. These posts shall include details for each proposal posted during that session, including at least the proposals name and number, along with a summary of the proposal's contents.
4. At the end of each session, first, all current proposals shall be closed; second, all rule changes receiving sufficient votes will be enacted; and third, all score changes resulting from that session shall be effected.
5. If no proposals have been made during an interval, posting of the reminder posts specified in clause 3 above is not required.
6. If no proposals have been made by the end of an interval, the session length shall automatically be extended by one interval. This extension shall repeat until such time a proposal is made.
Note, then, the paradox.
1. If the session were to end, all current proposals receiving the votes to pass would have to go into effect.
2. However, if Proposal 377, which received the votes to pass, were in effect, the session would not end.
3. However, if the session were not to end, Proposal 377 would not go into effect.
4. However, if Proposal 377 were not in effect, the session would have to end.
I think, given the current situation, it would be appropriate to invoke Rule 215 and conclude the game with
palmer_kun the winner.Comments and suggestions would be appreciated.
This has been quiet for a while, hasn't it? I wonder if we shouldn't vote for a Constitutional Convention and reboot to bring some life back into the game? -- packbat
Session Thirty-Five Poll Resolution
Rule Changes
Standard Proposals
- 376 by packbat, restricting withdrawals from the piggy bank to prevention of negative scores, failed with 1 vote supporting and 3 votes opposing. packbat receives P = (60x(F/V)) - (Ax(12/E)) = (60*(1/4))-3*12/6 = 9 points.
- 377 by palmer_kun, delaying completion of sessions when no proposals are made, passed with 3 votes supporting and 1 opposing. palmer_kun receives P = (60x(F/V)) - (Ax(12/E)) = (60*(3/4))-1*12/6 = 43 points.
- 378"> by gible, reducing scores during every idle interval, passed with 3 votes supporting and 1 opposing. gible receives P = (60x(F/V)) - (Ax(12/E)) = (60*(3/4))-1*12/6 = 43 points.
Game Object Proposals
None.
Directives
None.
Offices & Office Motions
None.
Contest Proposals
No news.
Session Thirty-Four Activity
Proposals
Standard Proposals
None.
Game Object Proposals
None.
Office Motions
None.
Contest Proposals
None.
Miscellaneous
- active_apathy is penalized 5 points for failing to update the ruleset.
- active_apathy is penalized 2^2 * 3 = 12 points for failing to vote in a second consecutive poll (the session poll).
- jonatan_kilhamn is penalized 4^2 * 3 = 48 points for failing to vote in a fourth consecutive poll (the session poll).
- packbat and active_apathy are penalized 2017 points each for a late vote post, and both are removed from the game.
- As palmer_kun has gained 500 points, he acquires the title High Scorer, and all scores are divided by three.
Session Thirty-Five Poll
Poll #1465374 Session Thirty-Five Poll - Nomicide, Game ThreeOpen to: Friends, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 1
Who shall be elected Diplomat?
Player List
gible, Mt. : 29 points
jonatan_kilhamn : 13 points
palmer_kun, Hd., H.S. : 170 points
stagemanager : 31 points
Mean score: 81 points.
Median score: 30 points.
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Session Thirty-Four Poll Resolution
Rule Changes
Standard Proposals
- 374 by gible, removing players with negative scores from their offices, passed with 3 votes supporting and 1 votes abstaining. gible receives P = (60x(F/V)) - (Ax(12/E)) = (60*(3/4))-0*12/6 = 45 points.
- 375 by packbat, allowing posts to be substituted for comments, failed with 2 votes supporting and 2 opposing. packbat receives P = (60x(F/V)) - (Ax(12/E)) = (60*(2/4))-2*12/6 = 26 points.
Game Object Proposals
None.
Directives
None.
Offices & Office Motions
None.
Contest Proposals
No news.
Session Thirty-Four Activity
Proposals
Standard Proposals
- 376 by packbat, restricting withdrawals from the piggy bank to prevention of negative scores. Final text reads:
( Read more... )
- 377 by palmer_kun, delaying completion of sessions when no proposals are made. Final text reads:
( Read more... )
- 378 by gible, reducing scores during every idle interval. Final text reads:
( Read more... )
Game Object Proposals
None.
Office Motions
None.
Contest Proposals
None.
Miscellaneous
- active_apathy is penalized 5 points for failing to update the ruleset.
- active_apathy is penalized 1^2 * 2 = 4 points for failing to vote in a first consecutive poll (the session poll).
- jonatan_kilhamn is penalized 3^2 * 2 = 18 points for failing to vote in a third consecutive poll (the session poll).
- packbat transfers 25 points to active_apathy as final restitution for the late vote post.
Session Thirty-Five Poll
Poll #1424617 Session Thirty-Five Poll - Nomicide, Game ThreeThis poll is closed.
Open to: Friends, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 4
376 by packbat, restricting withdrawals from the piggy bank to prevention of negative scores.
377 by palmer_kun, delaying completion of sessions when no proposals are made.
378"> by gible, reducing scores during every idle interval.
Player List
active_apathy : 119 points
gible, H.S., Mt. : 45 points
jonatan_kilhamn : 87 points
packbat, Dt. : 1 point
palmer_kun, Hd. : 466 points
stagemanager : 93 points
Mean score: 135.1666... points.
Median score: 90 points.
Amend 348 replacing session with interval(and fixing grammar) to read:
Each time an interval passes with no new proposals, each player shall lose 10% of their score (rounded away from zero).
e.g.: 144 would lose 15 point to become 129. -32 would lose -4 points to become -28.
~/Dammit. Limericks are hard. /~
Each time an interval passes with no new proposals, each player shall lose 10% of their score (rounded away from zero).
e.g.: 144 would lose 15 point to become 129. -32 would lose -4 points to become -28.
~/Dammit. Limericks are hard. /~
Amend 337 to read
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The game will proceed by sessions, with each session lasting one or more intervals and beginning at the conclusion of the previous except where otherwise stated. Sessions will be given a number for reference, beginning with 0. Each session consists of four parts, as follows:
1. At the opening of each session, the session poll will be opened. This poll shall allow all eligible voters to vote on each rule change proposed in the previous session, in the form in which they were proposed at the close of the previous session.
2. During each session, players may propose rule changes according to the rules then in effect.
3. The community maintainers will post a reminder entry before 72 hours prior to the close of the session, and again between 29 and 19 hours prior to the close of the session. These posts shall include details for each proposal posted during that session, including at least the proposals name and number, along with a summary of the proposal's contents.
4. At the end of each session, first, all current proposals shall be closed; second, all rule changes receiving sufficient votes will be enacted; and third, all score changes resulting from that session shall be effected.
5. If no proposals have been made during an interval, posting of the reminder posts specified in clause 3 above is not required.
6. If no proposals have been made by the end of an interval, the session length shall automatically be extended by one interval. This extension shall repeat until such time a proposal is made.
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The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
- H.P. Lovecraft
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The game will proceed by sessions, with each session lasting one or more intervals and beginning at the conclusion of the previous except where otherwise stated. Sessions will be given a number for reference, beginning with 0. Each session consists of four parts, as follows:
1. At the opening of each session, the session poll will be opened. This poll shall allow all eligible voters to vote on each rule change proposed in the previous session, in the form in which they were proposed at the close of the previous session.
2. During each session, players may propose rule changes according to the rules then in effect.
3. The community maintainers will post a reminder entry before 72 hours prior to the close of the session, and again between 29 and 19 hours prior to the close of the session. These posts shall include details for each proposal posted during that session, including at least the proposals name and number, along with a summary of the proposal's contents.
4. At the end of each session, first, all current proposals shall be closed; second, all rule changes receiving sufficient votes will be enacted; and third, all score changes resulting from that session shall be effected.
5. If no proposals have been made during an interval, posting of the reminder posts specified in clause 3 above is not required.
6. If no proposals have been made by the end of an interval, the session length shall automatically be extended by one interval. This extension shall repeat until such time a proposal is made.
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The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
- H.P. Lovecraft
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palmer_kun has withdrawn 391 points from the Piggy Bank. The new scores are as follows:active_apathy : 101 pointsgible, H.S., Mt. : 0 pointsjonatan_kilhamn : 105 pointspackbat, Dt. : 0 pointspalmer_kun, Hd. : 466 pointsstagemanager : 93 pointsMean score: 127.5 points
Median score: 97 points
As an unregulated action, I hereby withdraw 391 points from the Piggy Bank.
"The only winner in the War of 1812 was Tchaikovsky."
-- Solomon Short
"The only winner in the War of 1812 was Tchaikovsky."
-- Solomon Short
- Music:Big Giant Circles - Super Metroid In Your Prime OC ReMix
Amend 370 to add to the first paragraph:
A record will be kept of the net number of points deposited in the piggy bank by each player. If the score of a player who has deposited points in the piggy bank would ever drop below zero, that player shall automatically withdraw enough points from the piggy bank to (a) ensure that their score ends up zero or (b) reduce their net deposit to zero, whichever is less. Under no other circumstances may points be withdrawn.
It is a curious fact, but nobody ever is sea-sick - on land. At sea, you come across plenty of people very bad indeed, whole boat-loads of them; but I never met a man yet, on land, who had ever known at all what it was to be sea-sick. Where the thousands upon thousands of bad sailors that swarm in every ship hide themselves when they are on land is a mystery. - Jerome K. Jerome, Three Men in a Boat
Edits:
Original text:
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A record will be kept of the net number of points deposited in the piggy bank by each player. If the score of a player who has deposited points in the piggy bank would ever drop below zero, that player shall automatically withdraw enough points from the piggy bank to (a) ensure that their score ends up zero or (b) reduce their net deposit to zero, whichever is less. Under no other circumstances may points be withdrawn.
It is a curious fact, but nobody ever is sea-sick - on land. At sea, you come across plenty of people very bad indeed, whole boat-loads of them; but I never met a man yet, on land, who had ever known at all what it was to be sea-sick. Where the thousands upon thousands of bad sailors that swarm in every ship hide themselves when they are on land is a mystery. - Jerome K. Jerome, Three Men in a Boat
Edits:
- 2009.06.28/0343 UTC
- Restricting withdrawals.
Original text:
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gible deposited 391 points in the piggy bank. The new scores are:active_apathy : 101 pointsgible, H.S., Mt. : 0 pointsjonatan_kilhamn : 105 pointspackbat, Dt. : 0 pointspalmer_kun, Hd. : 75 pointsstagemanager : 93 pointsMean score: 62.333... points
Median score: 84 points
...and the piggy bank contains 391 points.
Session Thirty-Three Poll Resolution
Rule Changes
Standard Proposals
- H102 by packbat, removing reminder-post responsibility from the Herald, failed with 2 votes supporting and 2 votes abstaining.
- 371 by packbat, assigning penalties for late vote-posts to only one person, failed with 2 votes supporting and 2 votes abstaining. packbat receives P = (60x(F/V)) - (Ax(12/E)) = (60*(2/4))-0*12/6 = 30 points.
- 372 by packbat, defining two official copies of the nomicide ruleset, passed with 3 votes supporting and 1 opposing. packbat receives P = (60x(F/V)) - (Ax(12/E)) = (60*(3/4))-1*12/6 = 43 points.
- 373 by stagemanager, proposing the office of Official Player, failed with 2 votes supporting and 2 opposing. stagemanager receives P = (60x(F/V)) - (Ax(12/E)) = (60*(2/4))-2*12/6 = 26 points.
Game Object Proposals
None.
Directives
None.
Offices & Office Motions
- palmer_kun is elected to the office of Herald with 4/5 votes.
Contest Proposals
No news.
Session Thirty-Three Activity
Proposals
Standard Proposals
- 374 by gible, removing players with negative scores from their offices. Final text reads:
( Read more... )
- 375 by packbat, allowing posts to be substituted for comments. Final text reads:
( Read more... )
Game Object Proposals
None.
Office Motions
None.
Contest Proposals
None.
Miscellaneous
- active_apathy and jonatan_kilhamn are each penalized 1^2 * 4 = 4 points for failing to vote in a first consecutive poll (the session poll).
- jonatan_kilhamn is penalized 2^2 * 1 = 4 points for failing to vote in a second consecutive poll (the Herald Election).
- packbat transfers 73 points to active_apathy as further restitution for the late vote post. (25 points and we're even!)
Session Thirty-Four Poll
Poll #1421455 Session Thirty-Four Poll - Nomicide, Game ThreeThis poll is closed.
Open to: Friends, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 4
374 by gible, removing players with negative scores from their offices.
375 by packbat, allowing posts to be substituted for comments.
Player List
active_apathy : 101 points
gible, H.S., Mt. : 391 points
jonatan_kilhamn : 105 points
packbat, Dt. : 0 points
palmer_kun, Hd. : 75 points
stagemanager : 93 points
Mean score: 127.5 points.
Median score: 97 points.
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11. Sometimes, the fastest way to get to the end is to throw everything out and start over. - Akin's Laws
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So far, so quiet - 374 by gible would require officeholders remain in positive-score territory, and no other rule-changes are proposed.
In the poll, with 4 votes in, 372 is passing and everything else is either tied between support and abstention or support and opposition.
Edit 1334 UTC: In the Herald Election,palmer_kun is leading with 4 out of 5 votes; second place is a tie between gible, jonatan_kilhamn, and stagemanager with 3 out of 5 each.
gible would require officeholders remain in positive-score territory, and no other rule-changes are proposed.In the poll, with 4 votes in, 372 is passing and everything else is either tied between support and abstention or support and opposition.
Edit 1334 UTC: In the Herald Election,
palmer_kun is leading with 4 out of 5 votes; second place is a tie between gible, jonatan_kilhamn, and stagemanager with 3 out of 5 each.Syndicate
