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| Monday, September 1st, 2008 | 2:03 am [skeletaldisease]
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| | Sunday, July 20th, 2008 | 5:59 pm [nydecay]
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Drop Dead Poster update
Just Updated the animated gif with Frustration, and Cometary Girlz added Here are new versions small and gig. Feel free to grab them for your myspace if you like :)  | | Tuesday, July 15th, 2008 | 7:15 pm [nydecay]
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| | Monday, February 11th, 2008 | 11:51 am [ladylucretia]
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this post brought to you by the letter b for boredom
I pretty much forgot about this community for a long time, but the last post made me think about how obvious it is when people are going through a phase. So here is my extremely official theory of goth phases. Phase One: Clueless Newbie (1-6 months) Defining characteristics: Limited music knowledge, unfamiliar with the social dynamics of the scene, wears very stereotypical clothing (i.e. fishnets under a black tshirt with black jeans and black sneakers), generally embarrasses themselves quite a bit often without realizing it. Dresses up for pretty much everything regardless of whether or not it's called for (i.e. grocery runs). May still be confused about what goth music actually is (i.e. still listens to Manson and pop punk, is not sure if they are goth or not.) Potential Outcomes Negative: Realizes "what the hell am I doing, I don't even like Bauhaus" and disappears after 6 months Positive: "Holy crap, I look like a moron in this plastic walmart cape! And that band Bauhaus is pretty good, I should ask the club DJ to recommend me more stuff like that." Phase 2: Initial Club Kid Phase (6 months - 2 years) Defining characteristics: Knows between 5-100 actual goth bands, embarrasses themselves slightly less, learns to dance, amasses club-appropriate but still generic clothing, remains slightly overenthusiastic. Potential Outcomes Transitory: Now convinced that the goth scene is the greatest thing since sliced bread, they either: -spend way too much money on stupid shit like bat shaped lunch boxes instead of buying music -try to ingratiate themselves with stupid club cliques and get caught up in TeH dRaMaZ -develop a drug habit -tries to become a club promoter and fails out of inexperience, etc. Negative: They start dating a non-goth and suddenly aren't goth anymore, or they have a very delayed "holy crap this is stupid" reaction, etc. Will then regularly refer to their "goth phase" when talking to other goths. Positive: Learns more about music, stops caring so much about impressing people, realized that scenes come with stupid drama and baggage and are not to be taken seriously. Phase 3: Congratulations. You are a goth. (2-5 years typically) Defining characteristics: They have clearly stuck it out long enough that it's not likely to be a phase. They really like the music. They may still care about "status" or impressing people, but they know how to actually do so unlike before. They can now recognize the massive awkwardness that is the Clueless Newb and perhaps recommend them some bands. Potential Outcomes: Negative: Gets married or moves and stops going out, but still listens to the music. Positive: Becomes a recognizable face locally, amasses more of a music collection and more of a distinctive personal style. Phase 4: TeH UbErNeSS (5-7 years typically) Defining characteristics: Knows enough about music to pretentiously name drop obscure bands. Dresses to the 9's all the time; always tries to be one of the best dressed people at the club. Probably knows the local event promoters and DJs and scores some VIP status. Outcomes: Negative: May disappear completely, more often disappears and then reappears infrequently such as when Bauhaus goes on tour. Positive: Attends clubs religiously, becomes highly recognizable and a reference guide for all those in phases 1-3. Phase 5: Transcendence Defining characteristics: Cares more about their music collection than their wardrobe. Equally likely to be seen in High Gothic regalia as they are to be seen in jeans and a tshirt at the club. Probably knows a lot of the "right" people but no longer cares about status. They are amused when others try to associate them in the hopes of absorbing some of their "status." Generally don't care about any of the role play or bullshit involved with a scene. Outcomes: Negative: Years of frustration about scene stupidity build up and they disappear, sightings are reported by newbs as if they are the loch ness monster Positive: Becomes a DJ or event promoter, or a local club staple. Is able to effectively avoid drama. Dresses however the fuck they like, listens to whatever they like without worrying about how "goth" it is. Now, as with all theories of development, people can get stuck in a phase indefinitely, and elements of different phases can overlap. However those familiar with the phases can categorize others quite efficiently. Most of it has to do with how seriously they take "the scene," and how much they embarrass themselves. In fact this theory is good incentive for most people to never get involved with the goth scene in the first place due to the high likelihood of doing embarrassing things. Most self-identified goths are embarrassing to both themselves and goths in general, as communities like gothic_tards_2 make clear. Discuss. | | Saturday, February 9th, 2008 | 11:32 pm [blackchurch]
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Neo Goth Models Suck
How is it that Neo Goth models think that having brown and dishwater blond hair is cool, let alone Goth? How can anyone call call themselves Goth when they look like Britney Spears in PVC? I feel so sad. | | Saturday, January 5th, 2008 | 9:29 am [exiledv2]
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{C14} Get Your C14 Tickets Before Time Runs Out! Your chance to get C14 tickets at the introductory price has been extended to 01-15-2008! Purchase your tickets to the next season of Convergence at the low price of $55.00 by going to the C14 Ybor website or directly from the alt.gothic website. After 01-15-2008, the price rises to $60.00, so act now to take advantage of our advance sale. We hope to see you all at this next summer at Convergence 14! Current Music: Iris - Hell's Coming With Me | | Sunday, December 16th, 2007 | 6:22 am [exiledv2]
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{C14} FASHION SHOW DESIGNERS, DJS - APPLY NOW!
The Convergence 14 Committee would like to introduce you to our own in-house Fashionista Liasion, Eilis! Running the C14 Fashion Show with a revolutionary flair, she has a communique for you... "DESIGNERS! If you are interested in being part of the C14 fashion show, please contact me at fashionshow@c14ybor.com to receive your submission information. We want to be able to showcase your talents at Convergence 14! Contact me as soon as possible, as the deadline is 01-15-2008."Our resident Entertainment Liasion also has a message for all aspiring DJs: "Darlings...This is the moment you have been waiting for. This is the call for DJs for C14 Ybor! Please contact me, your ever so lovely, Offical C14 Entertainment Liaison at carriemonster@gmail.com for submission guidelines and other info. The deadline is 01-15-2008."So please, if you have an interest in either presenting at the fashion show at C14 or are wanting to offer your DJ services, contact the relevant ladies at your earliest convienence. Remember, you only have until 01-15-2008 to get your applications in. This and other news is able to be seen at the C14 website. Check in there to see the latest in upcoming events at Convergence 14. The C14 Committee thanks you for your attention and hopes to see you next year at Convergence 14 in Ybor City, FL! | | Saturday, December 15th, 2007 | 8:21 am [exiledv2]
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{C14} IRIS, AUDRA, & THE PASSING HOUR ADDED TO THE C14 LINEUP! IRISA welcome addition to our annual net.goth gathering, Iris is known for their retro-flavored tunes blended with catchy, yet haunting lyrics. From their debut album, Disconnect and its dance-floor favorite "Annie, Would I Lie to You", to their latest release, Wrath, reviewers have lauded their music using words such as "perfect" and "sublime" to describe their synth-tinged melodies. AUDRAAudra's music harks back to the early days of gothic rock enhanced with a longing, heartfelt, ethereal sound. Signed to Projekt Records, bandmates and brothers Brett Helm and Bart Helm, along with drummer J. DeWolf, are the embodiment of Audra's sharp, intense stage presence and well-crafted songs that never fail to mesmerize a crowd. THE PASSING HOURThe Passing Hour press-kit consisted of a CD and a handwritten sticky note saying that they would love to be a part of Convergence. The music on that CD demonstrated that they had the chops needed to wow the revelers. Their album, "Forever This Day," and the dark music within, gives one a taste of the potential of this up and coming band, who includes alt.gothic's very own Timly Grae as one of their members.. We are happy to welcome Louisville, KY's The Passing Hour to the C14 lineup. These acts join Voltaire, The Synthetic Dream Foundation and Faded Sympathy on the stage of Convergence 14 in Tampa's Ybor City. Stay tuned, more bands will be announced in the coming weeks! Tune in to the C14 website to see the latest in upcoming events at Convergence 14. | | Thursday, December 6th, 2007 | 6:23 am [exiledv2]
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{C14} Bands & DJs Announced For C14!
We are proud to announce two bands that will be appearing at Convergence 14 this year. Faded Sympathy will be traveling all the way from Columbus, OH, in order to entertain you with their with their unique brand of gothic rock. Combining post-punk of the early 80s with a 90s shoegazer sensibility, they are a welcome addition to the stage of Convergence 14. Also joining us will be Tampa's The Synthetic Dream Foundation, whose music ranges the map from EBM Industrial to Dark Ambient/Industrial and back again to experimental endeavours. Samples of this enterprising band may be heard here. We are also pleased to announce that our Main Event will be graced with the DJing skills of Cleveland's own SpinMistress Batty. Last seen at Convergence 9, we are delighted that she will once again be providing her considerable skills for Convergence 14. For those who will be present at the Pre-Party, the enjoyment of the ministrations of DJ Sonny Crocket will be yours. Fast cars, fast women, fast internet connections - these are tell-tale signs of a Vice DJ. Detective Sonny Crockett is a nine year veteran of the Macross City Vice unit, protecting citizens from criminally bad tunes with a weekly net radio broadcast originating beneath the palm trees at IPM Radio. Crockett embodies the pastel days and neon nights, but can the shark survive? This and other news is able to be seen at the C14 website. Check in there to see the latest in upcoming events at Convergence 14. The C14 Committee thanks you for your attention and hopes to see you next year at Convergence 14 in Ybor City, FL! | | Sunday, December 2nd, 2007 | 9:21 pm [exiledv2]
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{C14} CONVERGENCE 14 - ANNUAL NET.GOTH GATHERING
{C14} CONVERGENCE 14 - ANNUAL NET.GOTH GATHERING On August 8, 2008, the next production of the annual net.goth gathering in America, Convergence 14, will go live in historic Ybor City! The C14 Committee and Sunshine State Cable Access are rolling right along and ready to get you, our honored guests, on board with what is sure to be the blockbuster hit of the summer! Narrated and overseen by our Master of Ceremonies, the one and only Voltaire, we are expecting that Convergence 14 will be certain to be remembered. Exclusive access to this next season of Convergence can be yours with a laminate. Your laminate is THE ticket to Convergence 14, granting you access to the Meet N' Greet, the Gothic Swimsuit Competition and Fop Fight, all official nighttime events, and most especially, that Very Special Convergence Event, the Jumping of the Shark! To get your hands on one of these laminates, make your way to the C14 Ybor website and place an order, starting October 1, 2007. Pricing is as follows: $55 until 12/31/2007 $60 until 05/31/2008 $65 until 07/31/2008 Hurry now, for the longer you wait, the less of a steal it will be! Worse, if you wait too long, you will be unable to participate in at Convergence - NO laminates will be sold after 07/31/2008 and NO laminates will be sold at the door. Get them now while they're still in stock! | | Saturday, October 20th, 2007 | 3:13 am [theloveparade]
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| | Sunday, September 2nd, 2007 | 8:02 pm [perseph101]
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Radio Golgotha - News & Upcoming Events
It has been an incredible first month. We have had hundreds of unique listeners tune in from as far away as Finland, Canada, Hong Kong and dozens from our home base in Tampa, FL. We are particularly happy to welcome out German visitors which have made up almost 20% of our listenership. Now that we have stablized some of the technical launch issues, we will continue to add to our library of albums so that there will new music in rotation everyday including some smaller, but very interesting regional talent. We also have new sets from DJ Devious, Maus and DJ Xanthus set to premiere next week. In the next few months, we'll continue this trend with the programming shifting towards more Djs, more often. You'll hear club sets from England, Germany and all over the US. Thanks for your continuous support!! -Radio Golgotha Staff www.radiogolgotha.comUPCOMING EVENTS
| Wednesday 9/5/2007 3:00 PM EST | Set Debut Senor Dick is back with new set and asks Where is the Youth? It's not what you are thinking... |
| Sunday 9/9/2007 2:00 PM EST | Set Debut Artificial is the name of this set by DJ Maus. Avoid the Sunday drivers and tune-in to this Electro-Pop set. Turn it up for a perfect backdrop for those Sunday chores. | | | Sunday, August 12th, 2007 | 5:29 pm [perseph101]
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Radio Golgotha - Streaming LIVE
The newest and hottest Gothic & Industrial radio station is finally streaming live for your listening delight! Radio Golgotha is an ongoing project with new Djs, a new Music section and photo gallery as well as an updated chat room on the near horizon. Whether you'll listen while updating your myspace/facebook profile, writing your dissertation or slaying virtual dragons, you can find your soundtrack here. Check it out, and bookmark it! www.radiogolgotha.com www.myspace.com/radiogolgotha - add us for event info! Your ears will thank you for it. Current Mood: deviousCurrent Music: radiogolgotha.com | | Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 | 7:47 pm [crushed_yuppie] |
So Why Isn't Marilyn Manson Gothic?
Just a little something to get your blood boiling. Angelic_Diablo_666: I never quite understood why his music isn't labelled goth by the "gothic public". As a fellow goth and Mansonite, I never quite understood that.
Manson is more than obviously a lunatic and a goth. His music is dark souled, and about sex, violence, drugs, heartbreak, anti-government and the Antichrist.
So, what ever did make him not go towards the gothic rock label by the gothic public?
My only guess is that although most goths appear to love Manson, they didn't want Manson to be under the gothic rock label due to all the controversy over him, cuz it would bring the controversy more to the gothic rock genre as well. Fortunately, the forum this was posted at has members who know what the heck they are talking about, and the commenter is being set straight. Current Mood: amusedCurrent Music: "Could've Been Me" // Billy Ray Cyrus | | Friday, July 20th, 2007 | 1:23 am [skeletaldisease]
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Anyone still on?
I'm pretty sure there's still a lot of complaining left to do about the overrun of neo's, emo's and the like to let this community become inactive for nearly two months. >:P | | Friday, May 25th, 2007 | 6:46 pm [crushed_yuppie] |
My school's yearbook has a page on student fashion this year. "Preppy" includes kids wearing jeans and t-shirts. "Urban" includes kids wearing jeans with larger t-shirts. "Gothic/Punk" has this... ( Read more... )Uh, just felt like sharing. :? Current Mood: blahCurrent Music: "Rules For The Child In The Garden" // The Dancing Did | | Tuesday, May 8th, 2007 | 5:12 pm [ugly_kitties]
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I did not expect this in Union Square
but I should have, Union Square has become a gentrified borefest. ( lol )And that is the story of how some ridiculous but stylish girls put an end to one ridiculous and patently UNstylish asshole. Current Music: The Cure - Fever | | Friday, April 6th, 2007 | 10:37 pm [skeletaldisease]
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