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@ 2006-09-14 00:35:00
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Dawson: Focusing on the real issues
I am not a Montréaler by birth; indeed, I have lived here only two months, and am now attending McGill University.

One person's account of "the experience"
The McGill Tribune Article

This afternoon, the city of Montréal (and, if you are to believe the Premier of this province, life for Quebec as a whole) came to a bit of a grinding halt, as Dawson College became yet another in the history of school and college/university shooting rampages. The facts (and speculations) above speak for themselves; I need not recap what happened, for it seems that everyone, from Ontario to British Columbia to Kuwait to Italy, is already aware of the basic story.

There are other pieces of the puzzle which have not been put into place yet; other versions of the story which suggest there may be more to this than is being officially reported at this time; but for now, that is the official word, and any other version can only be worse.

What I find necessary to reflect on is the myriad of responses that this incident has generated. On the one hand, there has been a great outpouring of support from friends and the community around Dawson (e.g. Concordia University's temporary shelter), and the generosity and caring that people are able to show one another in a time of need is impeccable. If nothing else, it proves that there are some who have a heart beneath all the capitalistic "shells" we build for ourselves. Certainly, some of the people that I know who go (or have gone) to Dawson can attest to the number of people who have checked in today to see how she is -- some long lost forgotten people, at that, it seems.

What irritates me, though, is the press. Not all of the press, but at least some of the journalists, seem to have very little grasp on the reality of the situation. It certainly is not appropriate to ask the Premier about the impact that this incident might have on "gun control laws." First of all, as he pointed out, today is not the time nor place to have that discussion. Secondly, this incident has nothing to do with gun control laws. We already have some of the strictest gun registration policies in the world, and semi-automatic rifles aren't exactly part of your normal hunting gear... if people are going to do these things, no "registry" law is going to stop them.

Second, there is this strong focus on the "Goth" connection (tentative) of the shooter, and perhaps this is a reflection of our desire to have a concrete place to lay blame, but ... must we always blame a group, whether it be a particular religious sect, ethnic group, or what have you? If this person were from Iraq, would we suddenly be determined to launch an all-out assault on Iraq? The reality is that there are just some people out there who "lose it," for any number of reasons ... and labelling them so quickly, and without any real evidence to support the notion that it is in some way relevant, only appears to make matters worse for other members of that minority group who have to get past this as well.

My heart goes out to all of those who currently go to, or have gone to, Dawson College in the past. It will not be easy to go back there and look at it in the same way, feel the same sense of "home" that so many have commented on, or not think too much about the 'what if' questions: what if there was another shooter? What if they come back again? What if they come after me? What if I'm in the wrong place next time? What if there is a next time? These are all questions to which nobody has any answers; but as a community, we must be there to support one another in the weeks that come, and to pick up the pieces, and move on as best we can -- without pointing fingers, laying blame, and jumping to conclusions about the motives or reasons behind the incident.

From the point of view of those who are involved, and all those students who will, sooner or later, have to return to class, this is not the real sisue at the moment. The real issue, and the real question that many will be asking is, How do we move on from here? I hope that the focus in this tragedy remains on helping the Dawson community, and the victims, through the troubled weeks ahead, and not on some political rant about gun laws.


To those who need them, accept a hug; or ten. To those who have friends who were injured, they have my best wishes. To the rest of us, who have luckily remained relatively untouched by the events of today, may this be a reminder that anything can happen, any time, any where... and as members of the greater society, this leaves us with two obligations:

  1. To enjoy life, make the most of what we are given, and to live as much for the moment as for the future; and,
  2. To watch out for our fellow students and citizens, to look for signs of trouble, to be there to listen when people want to talk... for if more people talked, and fewer people acted, things like this might be far more avoidable.


Best of luck to all involved.



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[info]travelbunny
2006-09-14 05:12 am UTC (link)
words to live. too bad we're only reminded when tragedy hits. :(

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[info]stripesonly
2006-09-14 05:16 am UTC (link)
A world of agreement. Stricter gun laws will stem the flow of illegal weapons from other countries. Uh huh.

The American press, as usual, is especially irritating. From CNN:

In Canada, students as young as 16 attend college, which generally serves as a bridge between high schools and universities.

What?

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[info]electricstars
2006-09-14 11:15 am UTC (link)
Well, that's true in Quebec -- CEGEP can be a link from highschool to university (ie. you have to take a pre-university program at a cegep) and I was sixteen when I started going to Dawson. So what's the question?

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[info]stripesonly
2006-09-14 11:49 am UTC (link)
In Quebec, yes. Not the rest of the country. I come from Ontario and here you're sorted into university-bound and college-bound groups by the middle of eighth grade. You can switch tracks, do a joint (college/uni) program after high school, or attend one and then the other, but the vast majority of people only do one or the other.

Americans would be less clueless about Canada if their media wasn't so purposefully vague about news events that happen here.

"In the Canadian province of Quebec, students as young as 16..." Which I guess is still kind of ignorant because Quebecois don't identify as Canadian? Or so I've been told? I don't know.

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[info]stripesonly
2006-09-14 11:50 am UTC (link)
***the vast majority of people who pursue post-secondary education, sorry

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[info]strychnyn
2006-09-14 11:21 am UTC (link)
that's a pretty normal description of a cegep to someone in the US. we don't have schools like that in the public system in the states, so when i try and explain what a cegep is to someone, i compare them to community colleges which is kind of a stepping stone between high school and university for most students. why is that annoying?

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[info]stripesonly
2006-09-14 11:42 am UTC (link)
Because as far as I know it doesn't work that way outside of Quebec... I'm from Ontario and you go to college or university, and the high school system is fundamentally geared towards dividing the two groups. Sometimes people will do joint programs (attend a college and a university), do one and then the other, etc. CEGEP reminds me more of the system in the UK actually.

The American media tends to forget we have provinces at all, and instead of going into the same detail about the location as they would if they were talking about something that happened in the US, they'll say something like "a small town a few hours outside of Toronto, Canada." Americans, on average, have a poor knowledge of Canada because their media doesn't give them that information.

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[info]strychnyn
2006-09-14 11:46 am UTC (link)
heh, well i've been in Montreal for 5 years and *I* didn't even know cegeps didn't exist outside of Quebec :P thanks for correcting me on that, though.

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[info]stripesonly
2006-09-14 11:56 am UTC (link)
Really? No problem.

I had no idea that they had that sort of system here until I moved here. It's nice because I'm not the sage old lady in my classes any more and nobody's bugging me to buy them smokes/b00ze (another fun fact about Ontario: Less than 30% of high school students graduate on time, if at all!).

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[info]strychnyn
2006-09-14 12:16 pm UTC (link)
for what it's worth, the same gripe can be applied to American's knowledge/awareness of other Americans... if it's not on the news, most people don't know much about anything outside of their own state, sometimes outside of their own city. i was so very happy to see the difference in news coverage when i moved up here! :)

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[info]smoke_rising
2006-09-14 11:49 am UTC (link)
CEGEP reminds me more of the system in the UK actually.

Exactly. A CEGEP is roughly equivalent to our FE colleges. (They provide education after compulsory schooling (ie between 16-18, or for adults). You can do a vocational course, a course that will take you onto uni, or you can go back as an adult to learn a new skill. (I'm currently learning beginners' Spanish at City College in Manchester, while my pal [info]shadaloo is taking nightschool classes at Dawson.)

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[info]super_bon
2006-09-14 05:34 am UTC (link)
As someone who just graduated from Dawson, I have to say

I saw the "Goth" connection as more of a "what could have brought this person to do this?" than "what kind of person does this?" question.

Dawson is awfully segregated. Jew caf, italians in the Atrium, blacks in Conrod's... we can deny it all we want, those of us who went there probably know where "goths" as a group hung out, and know that they were horribly picked on by people. When one goes to college, one usually expects something different from high school. It felt like high school all over again for a lot of people.
That's why I wasn't as offended as others by the description. Of course, that's my one point of view, and if I were completely removed from the situation, I would think completely otherwise.

I'm still very emotional, so I apologize for the lack of coherence / inflammatory words.

I'm now at UdM, and I was shocked to see that life still continued as it had before for everyone else. The world stopped for me when I walked over to Dawson after work to see what was going on. I'm waiting for it to start again. How can people on the metro, in class, everywhere, still act like the earth is spinning?

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[info]tracydraco
2006-09-14 06:01 am UTC (link)
I was in the metro coming after class (I go to ConU). I learned of the events as soon as 1h05, 1h10 - the sister of a colleague of mine called him, she goes to Dawson. I spent the afternoon in shock, trying to console a friend who graduated from uni this summer and went back to Russia... if it had been in his power to jump on a plane and come to Montreal right away, he would have.

At 8h30, the metro was empty. People were looking at the floor. As the train went through Atwater station, I remember holding my breath. As I stepped into the orange line, the newsfeed presented a line with a description of the events. I almost cried, and I looked at the faces of others in the wagon and everyone was having a reaction of some sort.

The world indeed stopped turning. But for everyone's sake - for your sake, you who are closer to the events than me or the neighbour sitting down in the metro - there is a need to maintain some sort of "normality". Just to make sure that you have something running smoothly when you want to come back.

My best wishes, and all my thoughts and strenght to you and everyone else who cannot sleep tonight.

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[info]unbosomer
2006-09-14 12:31 pm UTC (link)
What you say about Dawson's segregation seems to be a common theme. Listening to various shows last night, some people would call in and say "there's no cliquiness at Dawson," but that would generate four or five other people who had to emphasize just how segregated and "groupy" Dawson really is. I haven't been around the place much myself during the academic year so I can't say I really noticed - but judging from past experiences, I'm sure the ostricism and "torment" that some groups feel on a daily basis wouldn't help matters.

It's funny, everyone tends to think that "going to college" or "going to university" will be a world of change; one must remember that there are only two months between the end of high school and the start of the next round of academia, and it seems 90% of the student body doesn't change much in those two months. :)

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[info]helenseidolon
2006-09-14 01:33 pm UTC (link)
Sure, it's groupy. But even someone who doesn't fall into the mainstream 'cool' groups can find great friends at Dawson. That's why I was so surprised at Dawson as a target - it's hard to be someone that SOME group doesn't fit with.

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[info]vampire_engel
2006-09-15 01:18 am UTC (link)
I went to Dawson from 97-99 and those were the best two years of my life. For me it was a new beginning and I met so many wonderful people there. I am closer to the people I met there today than I am to the people I graduated highschool with.

Times are changing and unfortunately it's not for the better. I still can not believe what happened there and many others, it was hard for me on the metro this morning going past that stop and seeing the security guards around the area and the station almost deserted.

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[info]djkeelo
2006-09-14 05:43 am UTC (link)
The government had entertained the thought of tougher gun laws the last time something like this happened, and since then, the idea has been put on the back burner. It's a shame to think that it had to take another incident like this to reinitiate the notion of tougher gun laws. In light of all this, I guess we are still fortunate enough to live in Canada where events like this are not as common as other countries.

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[info]papersky
2006-09-14 10:58 am UTC (link)
They're not very common anywhere, which is why this is international news.

I don't think you can stop odd lunatics from erupting -- what you can do is try to limit the damage, getting the police there fast and knowing what to do, everyone knowing how to evacuate and so on. This is much better than Columbine mostly because of that rapid response.

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[info]wolfie06
2006-09-14 07:33 am UTC (link)
The emphasis on the goth thing really pissed me off too.
I think someone said he had a mohawk, wearing all black, piercings.

That also pretty much describes my two best friends who were with me in the lower atrium when the shooting started. They are some of the friendliest people I have ever met.

I walked out of the room whenever they started describing the shooter on the news.

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[info]strychnyn
2006-09-14 11:44 am UTC (link)
sadly, i see this starting to unfold in the media just like Columbine did. focus immediately goes to what the guy looked like as a way to try and divine why he did it. every single report i heard and read last night and this morning have started with the same phrase... "A trenchcoat-clad shooter with a scowl and a Mohawk haircut turned a college cafeteria into a combat zone" (this taken from the current yahoo.ca article)
For me, it's the voracity with which the media goes after any scrap of what might be new information. every report trying to say the same thing in a different way, and blowing anything that might possibly be new (true or not) getting blown out of proportion. oh my god! his mohawk was maybe blonde?!?!? oh dear lord, he might have been from Laval??? are you telling me one of his shoes was untied, oh my god! when a situation is this serious and this big, i understand that correct information takes a long time to surface, filter through the police and all that... but i would much rather see the mdeia 1, be respectful of those who just witnessed it, and 2, be patient enough to wait for the correct information and deliver that rather than turn it into a sort of feeding frenzy.

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[info]kate_gwtf
2006-09-14 12:30 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for those "reminders." I couldn't agree more.

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