Leslie
02 February 2008 @ 03:03 pm
Capacity of both sizes of Keeper
Does anyone know the capacity of both sizes of the Keeper? I'm trying to complete the size chart in the Wikipedia article on menstrual cups. Also, if anyone sees any errors in the chart or the article as a whole, feel free to edit it.
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Luna[info]luna683 on February 2nd, 2008 08:32 pm (UTC)
that is so fantastic of you to write this article, because so many people rely on Wikipedia to answer their questions on what something is. Maybe you can link to this community, too!
Leslie[info]helen324 on February 2nd, 2008 08:43 pm (UTC)
Actually, it was through the Wikipedia article (linked from 'tampons') that I found out about cups. So even though I didn't write it, I have spent some time editing it and adding that size table. There used to be a link to this community in the article, but it got deleted by someone saying that linking to "online discussion groups or chat forums" are against Wikipedia policy.
Luna[info]luna683 on February 2nd, 2008 08:51 pm (UTC)
oh that stinks
Leslie[info]helen324 on February 2nd, 2008 08:50 pm (UTC)
Your comment got me to thinking about how this community has an external non-Livejournal link (http://menstrualcups.org/). I added a link in the article to this comm using that URL -- perhaps that will keep an editor from removing the link.
Luna[info]luna683 on February 2nd, 2008 08:52 pm (UTC)
that's a good idea!
ghoti_e[info]ghoti_e on February 2nd, 2008 08:39 pm (UTC)
Someone just asked about cup capacities a few days ago and got a really good response. Let me look for it...

http://community.livejournal.com/menstrual_cups/1015009.html?thread=10539233#t10539233
Leslie[info]helen324 on February 2nd, 2008 08:46 pm (UTC)
I actually used that post to find out most of the cup capacities. :)
the only trouble is that there is only one capacity listed for the Keeper, and the poster wasn't sure of which size it was for.
ghoti_e[info]ghoti_e on February 2nd, 2008 10:36 pm (UTC)
Oops... sorry. My brain so did not absorb that you were asking for the Keeper and that it was missing from the previous post.
Mixed feelings[info]gemfyre on February 2nd, 2008 11:33 pm (UTC)
Bloody Keeper calling their silicone cup "Moon Cup". I'm trying to figure out a succint way to list the brands available, but differentiate between the UK Mooncup and Keeper's Moon Cup without causing too much confusion (which I guess was Keeper's intention).
Obsidian[info]purple_obsidian on February 3rd, 2008 02:37 am (UTC)
I suggest contacting Keeper to ask the capacity.

With the history section.....from what I know of cup history, that section isn't exactly right....

Chalmer's cup wasn't called a Tasette at first - Robert Oreck bought the patent from Chalmers and used it for the tasette and tassaway....(http://www.mum.org/CupTaset.htm)

Also her cup wasn't the first. It was patented in 1937, but the Daintette was made from 1932/1935 dated patents.. and then there was the foldene which was apparently made from that daintette's patent, and might have been around before the chalmer's cup

See more info on what I believe the timeline is here http://www.labyrinth.net.au/~obsidian/clothpads/Cups_history.html

Also...there wasn't just the problems with women not wanting to touch their vaginas - they were also not able to advertise them properly. They couldn't say what they were, what they were for, couldn't even show a picture of them in some cases.

And then there was probably the embarrassment factor. Women would have had to go to a chemist and ask specifically for the item. in those days they didn't have shelves of products you could pick up and take to the register - you went to the counter, asked for the product and they got it for you from behind the counter. The fact that a successful advertising campaign for tampons was built on the fact the chemist could display a box of tampons on the counter and the women could take the box herself, (without having to endure the embarrassment of asking for them) shows that this was a problem at the time.
Obsidian[info]purple_obsidian on February 3rd, 2008 02:44 am (UTC)
and you might want to link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloth_menstrual_pad in there when mentioning cloth pads.
readermum[info]readermum on February 3rd, 2008 02:45 am (UTC)
On the comparision chart in the comments section for the Lunette it's written that the exterior being smooth and easier to clean.....shouldn't that be the interior is smooth and easier to clean?

Leslie[info]helen324 on February 3rd, 2008 03:52 am (UTC)
You're right. I've changed it to say "smoother surfaces aid cleaning" which should be more indicative of the Lunette's properties.
Obsidian[info]purple_obsidian on February 3rd, 2008 04:07 am (UTC)
Well it's actually smoother both inside and outside...

Can that table be edited to make the special notes section narrower so that there is more space in the other columns? because the Keeper one takes up 4 lines, and it's hard to read.
Leslie[info]helen324 on February 3rd, 2008 04:14 am (UTC)
The width of the table depends on the text size and resolution of the browser it's being viewed with. I'm using a widescreen laptop, so perhaps I didn't notice that the table isn't wide enough. I don't know how to fix it other than just taking out the whole special notes column, which would be fine considering it's not super important information. I really don't mind what happens to the article as long as it remains helpful and accurate, so please, feel free to change it as necessary. I'm certainly not the expert. :)
Obsidian[info]purple_obsidian on February 3rd, 2008 04:17 am (UTC)
I'm 1024x768 which I think is probably standard now.

I don't know how to change it either :)

maybe a special notes could go under?
Leslie[info]helen324 on February 3rd, 2008 04:21 am (UTC)
I removed some of the text from the Keeper line - it's now shorter and shouldn't wrap around. I checked out the page while narrowing the window I was looking at it in, and I think I see now what was causing the problem.
Thanks for fixing the history. It's pretty interesting.
Obsidian[info]purple_obsidian on February 3rd, 2008 03:41 am (UTC)
I've edited the history section myself :)
readermum[info]readermum on February 3rd, 2008 03:49 am (UTC)
Thanks
[info]mlnh on February 3rd, 2008 05:41 pm (UTC)
It looks like there is typing mistakes, in the measures of some of the cups.
The Lunette, and it looks like the mooncup uk to?
Or am i completely wrong? It just looks wrong to me, and i use mm measures all the time as we use it here in scandinavia.