manga_talk: Tokyopop vs Viz

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Tokyopop vs Viz
homasse kindly pointed out this community to me (thank you!) and I thought it would be a good place for my research. I'm in the middle of my final term paper, which is a comparative analysis between Tokyopop and Viz. It would be very much appreciated if you could answer a few question about the topic.

1. Which do you prefer, Viz or Tokyopop? Why? (Is it because of the titles, translation, packaging or anything else?)

2. Which is the better publisher, in your opinion? Why? (Again, is it because of the titles, translation, packaging or anything else?)

3. Why do you think other people prefer Viz/Tokyopop over the other?

Thank you for your help.

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benizakura
2006-11-26 12:08 pm UTC (link)

1. I've always preferred Viz over Tokyopop. They have a better selection of tried and true titles. They very rarely have any titles that if I buy the first volume, I don't know if I'll ever see the end of the series. Their selection is less based on attractive art and more on engaging storylines, which is something I vastly prefer.

I also like their translations better. They're a lot more streamlined and they actually read like someone has gone through and spellchecked, unlike Tokyopop with its rampant gramatical errors, heavy-handed Americanization of the dialogue, and frequent misspelling of character names. While Viz does have its problems (for example, the One Piece manga release), they are, in my opinion, the better of the two companies.

2. I do consider Viz to be a better publisher because they tend to deal with their releases a lot more like a professional company would. Tokyopop caters to the fans and, while it definitely has been the cause of great change in the manga industry both price and style-wise, that also means it releases series that will never be finished and tends to release faster to mean demand without concern for the quality of their product.

3. I think a lot of people prefer Tokyopop because they do see the work it does for the manga community as a whole, giving aspiring comic-artists a chance to get published, releasing titles that other publishers would not consider, and, overall, bringing manga to the level of popularity that its reached in the US.

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bakashoujiki
2006-11-26 03:45 pm UTC (link)

1. I prefer Viz.

2. Both publishers sort of suck, in my opinion. Viz at least seems to have editors, which is nice, but both seem to make incomprehensible changes to whatever they translate.

The poster above mentioned that Tokyopop Americanizes a lot of the dialog. However, Viz also changes a lot of stuff around. For example, in Prince of Tennis, the school is named Seishun Gakuen but is commonly called Seigaku. However, in Viz's translation they shorten the name to Seishun instead. This seems like a minor detail, but every single character on Seishun Gakuen's tennis team, which is what the series is about, wears a jacket that says "SEIGAKU" in huge romaji letters. Every time I pick up a volume of Viz's translation, I wonder what fans unfamiliar with the original make of this inconsistency.

Neither publisher has much going for them in the way of internal consistency of translations. Minor details, like the spelling of names, might change from volume to volume. For example, in Viz's translation of Naruto, the spelling of Rock Lee's teacher's name changes back and forth between Guy and Gai. That's the only time I've noticed that sort of thing in a Viz translation; Tokyopop has done it too often to list examples.

The quality of both publisher's products are improving as time goes by, but both, in the past have been guilty of unbelievably shitty binding and terrible paper quality. I swear to god, Tokyopop released some manga on tracing paper back in 2002. Viz also seemed to have an awful lot of misprints (meaning the pages in the volume were printed out of order, missing, printed more than once, were upside down, or otherwise totally wrong) back in the day. Both also have had pretty poor scan qualities, to the point where looking at an illegal scanslation, which someone did on their home scanner, looked better than the official English language translation.

Viz's translations sometimes seem stilted to me, while Tokyopop's are often entirely incoherent. Viz, over all, seems more professional to me if only because their translations are not just absolutely rife with grammatical errors and other kinds of problems. The other kinds of problems I'm talking about fall roughly into the category of editing, which, as mentioned before, Tokyopop has apparently never heard of. I have seen volumes of Tokyopop manga that have left text bubbles entirely untranslated or empty. The very best example of this would be their translation of Wild Act, which contains about every single common Tokyopop editing mistake as well as a few dozen others thrown in just to spice things up. My copy of Wild Act suffered from about six hundred billion minor and major editing problems which caused it to be entirely illegible. These problems include, but are not limited to:
-untranslated text
-empty bubbles
-black text on dark gray background
-white text on light gray background
-Japanese text still in bubble, with English text put in directly on top of it, rendering it illegible in both languages.

These kinds of problems make me think that they have like three people who never sleep working on their staff, and no one checks their work before it is sent off to be printed.

3. I think most people prefer Tokyopop because Tokyopop releases much faster than Viz, and might still be associated with lower price, even though some Viz titles actually go cheaper than Tokyopop ones these days.

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inu_kaiba
2006-11-26 03:51 pm UTC (link)

1. I can't honestly choose one of the other because Tokyopop has CLAMP and some of my favorite titles, and yet Viz has good old FMA and Yugioh. However, both have negative qualities. Tokyopop produced the series INVU. I have yet to see a final volume. Though I am fortunate not to own it, I believe they should have finished it. They also took X-Day out of print, which is stupid. As for Viz, Viz still has flipped manga. Enough said.

2. Mm, to be honest, I think Tokyopop may just be the better publisher. They were the first to stop flipping, and they never have flipped manga (except for that error with Chibi Vampires). They are constantly looking for interesting titles, and they don't change their logo and design every five seconds. (AKA, Viz's new logo) The red and white Tokyopop logo is annoying, but Viz has logos for SJ, SB, Action, Shojo, editor's coice, and now the new standard logo. Also, when Viz makes anime, they change things. I don't like that. Plus, Tokyopop charges WAY less for their novels, Viz needs to realize they need to print in paperback as well as hardcover.

3. It depends whether people like flipping or not. Shonen Jump and Shojo Beat titles are also less expensive. But, I think it mostly depends on the titles.

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	meril 2006-11-26 10:30 pm UTC (link)
	Re INVU: there was never a final volume in Korea. Tokyopop didn't have anything to complete. In any case, I prefer Netcomics or ICE Kunion's handling of manhwa to Tokyopop's. I'm waiting to see what Dark Horse does with their titles. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	ah_chan 2006-11-30 04:49 pm UTC (link)
	Actually, earlier Tokyopop releases were flipped as well. CLAMP's Clover for example, was quite beautifully printed to look almost exactly like the japanese edition (even the size and overlays!) but was flipped. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	inu_kaiba 2006-11-30 10:42 pm UTC (link)
	I know, I read an article about it. Tokyopop was the first to STOP flipping, was what I meant. ^^; (Reply to this)(Parent)

stormcloude
2006-11-26 06:19 pm UTC (link)

1) I really prefer Viz for a couple of reasons. First they decided to continue Banana Fish. They put out the first seven volumes in the early '90s in large-format flipped versions and then stopped printing it. Then few years ago, they decided to continue the series so they reissued the first seven in the more standard-size and Japanese style and continued with the 19 volume series even though it's a very niche title. They're three volumes from the end of the 19 volume series now. I know it's a pet project of one of their editors, but it's my favorite manga and I'm really glad they're finishing it.

Second, I like that they price some of their titles at $7.99. It makes things like Naruto more affordable for kids and it made me more likely to buy Death Note which I've already read online.

2) I think they're pretty comparable. They're both mass-market publishers. I don't like that Tokyopop picks up titles that aren't (and have no intention of ever being) finished such as Legal Drug or Alichino-- and I have to assume they know that when they license them. That shows a disregard for their readers. And the fact that Tokyopop jumped into the BL market with Blu just to make money even though their owner is firmly against BL kind of bothers me.

3) I don't think people necessarily pay attention to the publisher when they buy manga. Statistically, Viz is way way ahead of Tokyopop because of Naruto, FMA, Inu Yasha and Bleach, which are all top sellers. Tokyopop might sell more individual volumes, but that's because they have a much wider number of releases (not necessarily better, just wider). I've heard horrible things about Viz's anime releases and I think that might color some people's view of their manga line as well.

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rachelmanija
2006-11-26 11:28 pm UTC (link)

2. Some readers would rather read what exists of an unfinished series than never get to read any of it at all. Like me, for instance. I'd love to get more of Legal Drug, but I'd rather have three volumes available in English than no volumes. I don't see how this shows a disregard for their readers.

I'm curious about the owner being against BL, as I've never heard anything about that. Has he gone on record saying that he doesn't personally enjoy it, or he thinks it's immoral, or what? In any case, I'm not sure why it matters what the owner personally thinks about BL as long he's OK with his company publishing it. Since I like to read BL, I would much rather BLU publish it regardless of what the owner personally thinks, than for BLU to not exist.

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stormcloude
2006-11-27 12:00 am UTC (link)

She asked for opinions. I gave her my opinion. I don't want to debate my opinions.

Stuart Levy hasn't gone on the record against boy's love, it would be bad business for Tokyopop to aliente all those potential readers, but it's a pretty well-known industry fact that he's not enthusiatic about his company publishing it, that they're only doing it for the money and that's why they created Blu-- to distance the Tokyopop name from it.

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kalanthe
2006-11-26 07:36 pm UTC (link)

Over the years, my buying habits have slid from mostly TokyoPop to mostly Viz. At this point, I prefer Viz overall. Reasons are varied.

TOKYOPOP: Almost all of the titles I was collecting from TokyoPop reached completion. They've put longer gaps in between releases of the series I am still collecting, which means I only buy something from them every 4 months or so. Some of that lag is due to pacing with the Japanese release, while some is as-yet incomprehensible outside of a representative saying that series that don't sell as well have to be bumped back to make room for other series that are doing better or getting their first try (given that they can only publish so many per month). That particular argument seems self-defeating to me, because the people who were interested in it have forgotten about it by the time the next book comes out, older copies aren't on the shelves anymore, etc. I appreciate that TokyoPop takes chances on artists; I also appreciate that they have tapped the Korean manwha market, though overall I've found I don't like those as much as the Japanese for re-read value. There are some exceptions like INVU and Queen's Knight... and to answer an above poster's complaint about INVU, that wasn't TokyoPop's fault. Volume 4 was never published in Korea due to the problems with the manwha market setup. I had heard rumors that TokyoPop at one point was directly trying to get the artist to finish, but I don't know what came of it. In the meantime, I got very irked with the almost full-year lag they put into Queen's Knight when there wasn't any reason beyond not selling as well as they'd hoped -- like it's going to sell better a year later? Fortunately they didn't drop it, and they've picked up the pace again, but I'm leery.

VIZ: Overall, Viz seems more reliable. Their release lags are very predictable. The particular series that I collect come out once every two months for some and every three months for others. If it's been started, I don't worry about a series going into cold storage. I think the packaging often looks better than TokyoPop (though I would call Fruits Basket an exception here). I know a lot of people have issues with Viz editing things they don't consider appropriate, but the series I collect have been largely free of that censorship. Translation-wise, I don't see a lot of difference. There does seem to be better checking on speech bubbles and the literal editing of the pages (though I caught a typo in Boys Over Flowers 20 that any spell-check should have caught). I appreciate that Viz more often translates sound-effects. I'm not an art purist, so while I want things left pretty much as-is, I'd rather be able to know what the sound-effect is rather than have the art totally undisturbed.

But for why I buy Viz and not TokyoPop these days I think really comes down to the fact that I am currently only interested in two series by TokyoPop and more than ten by Viz. Since Viz releases them more often, I buy them more often. The two TokyoPop ones are Fruits Basket and Queen's Knight... which typically have four-month release schedules.

Oh, and another thing that has shifted from TokyoPop to Viz: their websites. TokyoPop used to have an accessible website that gave detailed information with very easy-to-navigate menus. They've changed that to some myspace type discussion board where it's nearly impossible to find just basic information. I can't navigate it. I found the release schedule and bookmarked it, because it takes me five minutes of fruitless clicking and no knowledge of the correct order to get there from the main page. Viz, on the other hand, used to have a horrible website (the only way you could find release information was to sneak into the online store) and has changed it to one that's much easier to use and usually find good information.

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continuing, with links

kalanthe
2006-11-26 07:37 pm UTC (link)

[Continuing...]

Viz also seems to have better access to popular manga these days, with exclusive deals and partnerships with Japanese companies (here's one press release about it). TokyoPop may be trying a lot of the new and chancy properties because they don't have a firm hold on guaranteed titles like they used to.

You might want to check into some discussion boards. The one I follow has had threads following similar questions. Here's a TokyoPop thread, which includes some input from TokyoPop representive Peter Ahlstrom.

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fusakugyoku
2006-11-26 09:02 pm UTC (link)

1. Hm, this is... really hard! I like Viz's titles a lot better (Tokyopop, I think, covers far too many uninteresting or obscure titles, and too much shoujo), but Tokyopop's translations and packaging are better. At least from my experience, Tokyopop includes more notes and less Americanization, though I see other people disagree.

2. Tokyopop is the better publisher because, I think, they're more in tune with their audience. They host communities, they sponsor artists... and of course, I just like their translations better (although I still don't like them much at all).

3. Despite my saying that TP is better, again, I prefer Viz; the base content is better, even if they do change a lot more. I think that most people prefer TP (again, my experience) because slightly more accurate translation and better packaging/ format (Viz page editing is terrible, they cut into the artwork with white space a a lot), and frankly, shoujo and BL are pretty big with American manga fans... I personally can't stand that stuff, so Viz.

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jcoville
2006-11-27 03:21 am UTC (link)

I should probably start off by saying I'm not a "typical" manga fan. I'm a 31 year old who grew up on superheroes. About 10 years ago I branched out to other types of comics and as of late I've been reading more Manga.

1. TokyoPop vs. Viz. Neither really. I'm just interested in a good story. I've bought (and currently buying) some from both publishers. BUT I do like that TokyoPop has taken a gamble to produce some original material. I really enjoy Dramacon and I like Steady Beat.

2. I've not read any scanlations so I don't know all that much about translations and covering stuff up. That said I'm not really a fan of it, I'd rather it be un-altered. I understand Viz has made some changes to I''s and I'm not too thrilled with that, but I'm enjoying the series anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if TokyoPop did that too, but they did shrink wrap and sell Battle Royale which leads me to believe they didn't water it down.

I'm not sure which is the better publisher. I'm under the impression that TokyoPop took the early lead in the Manga race and are now having troubles keeping that lead, which has them branching out to do other stuff in an attempt to keep themselves on top. They seem to be going more for market share with a quantity of books and hoping one of them becomes a big seller. I think Viz has done a better job of picking their shots so to speak and getting the better properties (Naruto being the big one of course).

Will Viz continue to be effectively picking their shots 5-10 years from now? Or will TokyoPop still be around due to the deals they made with other publishers?

Oh and as I said before, TokyoPop is creating original stuff, employing creative people here, paying them to make comics. I think that's a very good thing and I support that.

3. I suspect people are liking Viz more now as they've got the better selling books. I also think they are more new in customers minds and therefor cooler.

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	$Mendokuse :\$ draconianangel 2006-11-27 06:11 am UTC (link)
	I noticed the term I"s in your reply and on other forums that I've visited... what exactly does that mean? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	jcoville 2006-11-27 12:09 pm UTC (link)
	I''s is a book Viz publishes. It's one they've done some editing too, covering up nipples. More info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%22s http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/6656.html (Reply to this)(Parent)

asimovfan
2006-11-27 04:40 am UTC (link)

Well first, as these two are the biggest manga licensing companies in the US, i'd have to say i'm pretty happy they've both brought many quality titles over. Sure, many of them suffer problems, but overall, i'd rather see some edits and mistakes than to not see the titles licensed at all.

1) Ultimately i'd pick Viz though, for their quality title line up. They have many of the best selling manga out there, and have both an imprint aimed at serious readers (Editor's choice, and their shounen jump advanced line) the ever popular Jump manga like (Bleach, Naruto, One Piece) To have both the classic Nausicaa and the hit Fullmetal Alchemist, it's hard to not appreciate the quality of the overall lineup.

Tokyopop though, while they have quality manga like GTO, MARS and Fruits Basket, suffer from a surplus of titles. While Viz has many series that run over at least 10 volumes and have an ending to them, tokyopop has many one-shots and series that have 3 or less volumes. Many of them are based on anime and are not the original work, and rarely stand on their own in terms of quality- they are more like anime companions than a manga that tells a complete story (anime to manga conversions like escaflowne, scryed, gundam wing, cowboy bebop, scrapped princess, my hime and forgettable titles like brigadoon.) they have more than 20 of these short series, some good, some bad, but most mediocre.

Similarly, many of the titles they've licensed are still being serialized in Japan. It can be pretty frustrating to have to wait a long time for a volume 3 or 4 after a promising start to a new series, and there is no shortage of manga that are already completed. They have many, many volume 1s and 2s and comparitively few volume 10s. I think it's fair to say that it's hard to judge a series solely from reading the beginning, and that it can take many volumes to develop characters well and tell complex plots. (some run too long but that's another problem ^^;)

They also hurt their own sales, having so many unknown titles. Categories like action, shoujo and editor's choice from Viz are good at helping people find other titles they may like, but tokyopop has only the popularity of creators like CLAMP and erica sakurazawa to help direct people to other titles in their catalog. It defintely hurts their unique titles, for instance tokyopop's manga Dragonhead despite being good enough to recieve recognition from reviewers (ie http://publishersweekly.com/article/CA6388897.html) have had poor sales.

Other comments: Quality is pretty readable for both publishers, but tokyopop tends to make more mistakes because they have more series being worked on at the same time than viz. Generally, Viz's paper and printing quality is better, tokyopop's tends to be harsh on the midtones and loses details in artwork. Viz is not perfect, but tends to make less fan-upsetting changes (noticeable and non-trivial changes) and mistakes than tokyopop. (ie character names changes and americanization in tokyopop's Initial D upset the majority of the Initial D fans in the US, or the extensive art edits in Battle Vixens)

3) If i picked one reason while fans might prefer tokyopop, i'd guess maybe their BL/yaoi line of titles that Viz has very few of, while tokyopop has done the well-liked series FAKE and Gravitation, as well as their new BLU imprint. Also, they have quite a lot of shoujo titles, so again readers who prefer yaoi and shoujo may prefer the publisher of their favorite titles.

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imayb1
2006-11-27 05:15 am UTC (link)

1. Which do you prefer, Viz or Tokyopop? Why?
I prefer TokyoPop to Viz because they offer a wide variety of genres and manga which appeal to different age groups. In my opinion, Viz doesn't take as many risks; they stick to tried-and-true fan favorites. TokyoPop has also set a nice standard for manga in terms of size and shape whereas Viz produces a series in large book formats, then smaller book formats, and sometimes again in color formats.

2. Which is the better publisher, in your opinion? Why?
I think TokyoPop is more consistent about meeting its release dates. I MUCH prefer TokyoPop's website. For as much extraneous crap as TP has on their site, at least it is easy to navigate and I feel they respond well to customer comments and suggestions. Viz's website is a navigation disaster and they almost never update their release dates. Both companies have had bouts with unpopular censorship but I have been more upset with Viz's attempts to censor the original artists' work.

3. Why do you think other people prefer Viz/Tokyopop over the other?
From the previous comments, it seems other people enjoy Viz for the same reasons I dislike them. I think many people find TP to be easily accessible because of the books' availability and the wide range of products.

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(Anonymous)
2006-11-27 05:44 pm UTC (link)

1. I can't really say I prefer Viz OR Tokyopop. Both have titles I enjoy, and both do things I find really annoying. Viz changes character names (Case Closed/Detective Conan, Saint Seiya - Princess Saori), while Tokyopop's quality seems to be all over the place. But, I love most of the Shonen Jump/Shojo titles that Viz puts out, and I like a lot of the mystery/fantasy titles Tokyopop gets. They are even in my book.

2. I think I would give Viz the better publishing. I've noticed less mistakes in Viz books than in Toykopop. Not that Viz is perfect, they just make LESS mistakes.

3. Honestly, I've never really understood they loyalty to one company over another, not between these two. Both have a very large and diverse library of titles, so I don't see a reason to prefer one over the other. They both fill a lot of niches. Maybe if they were devoted to just one title (such as Naruto/Dragon Head), I might see a why for a preference, but not in general.

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	notquitelucid 2006-11-28 05:55 am UTC (link)
	I second this; I rarely pay attention to the publisher of the manga I'm reading- as long as I find the content interesting, I'll buy it, loyalty aside. (Reply to this)(Parent)

blueshinra
2006-11-28 10:39 pm UTC (link)

Hey ^_^ Browsing this comm via a friend's list...

Anyway...

Which do you prefer, Viz or Tokyopop? Why?
I've gone back and forth on this over the years, and at the moment, I'm religiously following two titles each from both companies (Death Note and FMA from Viz and RG Veda and Sgt. Frog from Tokyopop). With this in mind, at the moment, I'm going to have to give the edge to Tokyopop as their translations on these titles have been far more solid. However, Viz's books tend to have higher-quality printing these days. Hmm...

Which is the better publisher, in your opinion? Why?
Tokyopop; the reason for this being innovation. They've set all of the current trends in English-translated manga publishing today: a price point of $10 or less per volume, slightly-higher-than-tankoubon-quality books (though I miss Viz's high-quality [and more expensive] printing standards, like the early volumes of Video Girl Ai), smaller books (again, tankoubon style), all Japanese titles unflipped, ratings, etc. The only bad move Tokyopop has made, IMHO, is flooding the market, but to a certain extent, Viz, Del Ray, and others are guilty of this as well.

Why do you think other people prefer Viz/Tokyopop over the other?
Fans tend to take their favorite manga very seriously, and mistranslations, poor quality printing, censorship, and other such things can cause them to sway one way or the other. It's not just those two publishers, either-- I remember being infuriated with ADV for their dumbed-down treatment of the Azumanga Daioh manga (though since then, they've done a good job with Yotsuba&!). There's also a very small number of publishers (Dark Horse chief among them) with whom I've never had any such issues.

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ah_chan
2006-11-30 05:34 pm UTC (link)

1) Both Viz and Tokyopop do things that make me grind my teeth in annoyance when reading manga I like - due to translations and packaging.

I think the most I have objected to Viz though is their re-editing/censoring of certain manga, like in Full Metal Alchemist where they made it look like a certain character was hung to a slab of concrete rather than a cross, because the horror of blasphemy! (This from the company who also publishes Kaori Yuki's Angel Sanctuary?) I find it sort of irrelevant that they got the creator's approval, because yeah, if it was choice between getting my work published and having a detail changed, I'd change it too. Also the handling of Naruto's translation of "Sexy no Jutsu" to "Ninja Centerfold," and the romanizing the names of two characters in Angel Sanctuary to Boyz and Noyz rather than Voice and Noise (which makes much more sense) and other things like that were quite annoying. Actually, a lot of their romanizing irks me, like the horror they made of Kaori Yuki's other series, God Child. (Mary Weather vs Merryweather, Jizabel vs Jezebel, etc.)

Tokyopop has hideous americanized dialogue, (the entire English speaking world is not american and familiar with all accents, thank you) and some of their title changes make me blink, especially when they advertise themselves as the authentic manga experience or whatever. Particularly when the series already have titles in English! ("Power!!" was changed to "Girl Got Game", "Ghost!" to "Eerie Queerie" and so on.) Also, their editing can be rather slipshod, and the paper quality ain't that great. I also wish that they (but not just them) would print their manga at the size it was originally printed at, particularly if it was larger, (Saiyuki Reload, and Alichino, I am looking at you.) I am also frustrated that it's not really possible to get TP's older releases any more; there are a fair few series that are out of print.

I also wish both companies would keep their printing/editing choices consistent throughout series - titles and logos just on the spines change throughout series, which makes things look terribly incohesive. I mean really! XD

And all current manga companies need to get actual specialized typographers, and font designers. All the fonts used are the same from series to series with very little regard to the style or atmosphere of the manga; their current level of skill can be quite easily matched, or even surpassed by good scanlators.

I have fairly broad tastes, but IMO both companies have picked some good titles that I follow anyway, despite their publishers, although in general Viz has the shounen field covered, and Tokyopop has shoujo (although it also has Nihei Tsutomu's Blame! :D). I also quite like that TP is encouraging manga to be written and published.

2) So I don't really find one to be 'better' than the other, just a different set of evils that I can expect.

3) While I have heard of fans preferring particular series, I haven't really heard much of people hotly defending the different publishing companies. Fans like to pick on what a shitty job companies do after all ^^;.

My impression is Viz probably attracts their fans with their strong line up of shounen series while TP tend to go with riskier newer things, like branching out into manwha, and OEL.

However, there are other companies that I both love and hate. I wish Del Ray and a singaporean company Chuang Yi would get together - Del Ray on the translations (although they aren't perfect either, at least they're usually quite thorough.) and the Chuang Yi on the printing. Their versions of Saiyuki Reload, while with some quite awkward or just plain wrong translations have delicious printing, and they have the slip covers like the japanese editions for their titles. I wish ADV would die for what they did to Tactics.

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	$Mendokuse :\: ...meh$ draconianangel 2006-11-30 11:49 pm UTC (link)
	Ditto on the Chinese printing. I have all volumes of Chobits in Chinese (even though I dunno how to read Chinese) just because the packaging is delicious. I wish Western publishers would learn from them. sigh (Reply to this)(Parent)

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