Ed Fortune ([info]ed_fortune) wrote in [info]maelfroth,
@ 2008-03-27 14:14:00
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General Advice for priests
I posted this to a newsgroup and it was suggested I share.

It's general 'good advice' for the Deity Game, but broadly, if you roleplay instead of lammie-whore, you'll be fine and will have fun.

This isn't really 'FOIP' stuff, more a combination of stuff you can pick up from the rule books and a bit of my own personal experience. Above all, relax, have fun. If you treat the Deity Game as a game, rather a lammie machine, you will have a grin on your face at the end of the event.

1) Have a short, memorable, easy to spell name, so others can mention you in their prayers. Ideally, your actions should be equally memorable.

2) Make your ceremonies fun and interesting. They will stick in people's minds, and they'll mention that in their prayers.

3) Pray often, and tell the god what you are doing in his name. Carry a pen and pouch of blank prayers, do prayers when your bored or want to dive into God because it cold/fag breaks/mask breaks. I use block capitals, because I can do that quickly and it's easy to read.

4) Prayers need content to be useful. 'Hi Weaver, I went to the loo today' is a bad prayer, even the weaver doesn't find shitting original or clever. 'Hi Teacher, I protected this secret, killed this traitor and intiated a census clerk' is a good prayer, as is 'Hi Basilisk, here's some news'.

5) Stick to the principles of the god like glue, tell your god your intepretations of the lore.

6) Avoid blasphemy. Have fun with how you define blasphemy.

7) Never lie in a prayer. Gods are clever and well informed, do you want to make it unhappy?

8) Blessings are gifts from the Gods. Make sure you send back a thank you note. Like anyone else, the gods like to know their gifts got to the right person, unmolested. Bear this in mind when accepting blessings.

9) You are divine quality control. Be mindful of who you intiate, and who you mention in your prayers. Do not be afraid to kick dickheads out of the faith.

10) Quality, not quantity. Who would matter more to your god? Five high blessed, god loving, hard working devotees or 500 insincere, mealey mouthed peasants who never bother to pray and only became devoted because it was the state religion? Adjust your actions accordingly.

11) Likewise, take a (mental) register and mention all those who matter in your prayers. The gods like confirmation that people who say they are great, are.

12) Try to stick to your mask or path. It is always 'Lord Sun', never 'Teacher'. Even if they ask you nicely. No amount of pleading should make you adjust life-held principles without a lot of roleplay.

13) Finally, if the group has an Eidolon, consider yourself its personal chronicler and keep running updates of it's actions, in prayer. Its good acts will reflect on you, and if you're in good standing with your God, it will also benefit.

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If someone wants to link to this on Rule7, that'd be sweet. Thoughts and input are always good.



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[info]arwel
2008-03-27 02:35 pm UTC (link)
Good advice that.

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[info]yapman
2008-03-27 02:49 pm UTC (link)
When you initiate someone, keep hold of their true name. You may want to excommunicate them if it proves to have been a mistake.

And I think that's already me saying more than I ought to. I'll stop now.

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[info]mapp
2008-03-27 03:28 pm UTC (link)
When you initiate someone, keep hold of their true name. You may want to excommunicate them if it proves to have been a mistake.

Latest version of the rules (it's on the website too, just checked that I'm not saying stuff I shouldn't) says that you don't need the true name of somebody to excommunicate them.

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[info]sea_cucumber
2008-03-27 03:37 pm UTC (link)
Do you not? How very handy ;) :D

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[info]wulfboy
2008-03-27 02:57 pm UTC (link)
this is good. I would like to rip it off for the upcoming Faith Re-Brief, please

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[info]ed_fortune
2008-03-27 03:44 pm UTC (link)
Feel free chap.

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[info]daisyann
2008-03-27 02:59 pm UTC (link)
Cool. Nice to know I'm doing it right!

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[info]ed_fortune
2008-03-27 03:56 pm UTC (link)
Same here.

I suspected I was getting it right, as I do 'religous' well, but it's nice to have some of the Tangerine Wearers confirm it.

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[info]raselhague
2008-03-27 03:11 pm UTC (link)
Nice work, Ed. :)

I tend towards a few of these but there were some that hadn't come to mind. All makes sense of course.

I think I'll keep a copy of this next to my prayer-sheet bundle. ;)

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[info]professoryackle
2008-03-27 03:30 pm UTC (link)
Great summary Ed. That all makes a lot more sense now. Hope you don't mind if I pass it on to my devoted (but non-LJ) friend? She's always asking me about praying and I've never known what to say to her.

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[info]ed_fortune
2008-03-27 03:43 pm UTC (link)
Of course. (stick my name on the bottom though :)

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[info]sea_cucumber
2008-03-27 03:42 pm UTC (link)
Jolly good guidelines, those.

I must add that the prayer computers in the computery tent at the last game were full of mightyness when praying as it means the refs can read people's writing, which if you have writing like mine, is a good thing! :)

Even if they can probably tell by the power of technology that there are crazy loons who type out their prayers at 6-something in the morning :)

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[info]wulfboy
2008-03-27 04:06 pm UTC (link)
Aye. I was initially resistant, but with PeeDee having new computers for us to use, and a willing TangerineCap in place throughout the event, and a goddarn printer it helped a lot with reading dodgy handwriting.

I still prefer ceremonies and the like on the blue sheets, but prayers into the computers is a boon. A boon I say!

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(no subject) - [info]sea_cucumber, 2008-03-27 04:39 pm UTC
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[info]vevaphonics
2008-03-27 05:27 pm UTC (link)
Damnit. Why did I choose an overly long name for my current character?

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[info]nathan_h
2008-03-27 05:34 pm UTC (link)
I concur, but might also add:

- think about why your character came to the faith? were they born into it, were they converted, or did they have a religious experience at some point? The defining moment of your faith may be vitally relevent during your moments of doubt.

- think about how 'political' your priest is. Churches are made up of people, and people are political animals. How highly do you value your own political career?

- Under what circumstances are prepared to die for your god? Under what circunstances are you prepared to kill for your god? If you have other alliegences (your nation, your family, your comrades, etc) where does your god fit in?

- Given it's a polytheist setting, where do the other gods fit in to your belief system? Are they also worthy of some respect? Should you consider what their servants say at all? are they equal or lesser powers to your own? Do you ignore them or fear their attentions? Does what they standfore overlap any of what your own god stands for? How apply these questions not to other gods, but other aspects of your god.

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(Anonymous)
2008-05-08 04:01 pm UTC (link)
Those are nice tips to help YOU rp, they aren't the same as Eds tips

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[info]notdan
2008-03-27 07:04 pm UTC (link)
12) Try to stick to your mask or path. It is always 'Lord Sun', never 'Teacher'. Even if they ask you nicely. No amount of pleading should make you adjust life-held principles without a lot of roleplay.

While I always call the Weaver "the Weaver", it's my IC position that I don't care a jot if she's also called The Builder, Lady Sky, The Lover, Pyrachnor, or whatever - given her nature, I wholeheartedly believe that she's one goddess with many different interests, talents and hats.

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[info]wulfboy
2008-03-27 09:05 pm UTC (link)
Ah but then you are clearly a "Weaver" worshipper rather than a Lady Sky worshipper.

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[info]ed_fortune
2008-03-28 09:33 am UTC (link)
Isn't that a little boring?

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(no subject) - [info]notdan, 2008-03-28 09:43 am UTC
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[info]binidj
2008-03-27 07:09 pm UTC (link)
Good advice Ed, words for every priest to live by.

I did have cause to bark on about the Supplication guidelines over the weekend but now cannot find the damn things. Let us hope that your guidelines are not similarly eaten by the labyrinthine structure that masquerades as the PD website. =)

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[info]tancreduk
2008-03-28 07:30 am UTC (link)
Excellent guidelines... wish i had had them when i started playing.. at my first event i was tripping over stuff left right amd centre.. however i learnt to pick to play my priest the way i wanted to.. i advise you do the same.. make it fun and role-play it.. dont be a religous prayer machine

Diffrent people have diffrent approaches to how to play a priest.. they basically fall into two catagories..

those that pontificate and expect the flock to come to them..
or those that role-up their sleves and go find their flock

I have chosen to play my teacher priest like a parish priest and go and meet and greet those that i am supsosed to spirutaly look after as it were.. and it works. had 3 conversions to the faith IC at the last event..

Suplications can take time.. at the first event the actions of a suplication only manifested at this event.. yest at this event it took the diety team 25 mins to respond !! Gods work in wierd ways.. :O)

Big suplications in time of need work well.. and keep it simple.. repeat yourself two or three times just to get your message across.. the Ref watching you will pick up on what you say.. also make sure the ref gets all the soul card details for those at the suplication..even if they are not of your god..


As for Eidlons they do have their own adgendas so be weary.. you need to look at what they tell you.. why and where it came from.. though in truth they can be very handy, scarey, fun and annoying :O)

Finaly if your god tells you to do something you think is wrong pray and ask for advice/enligtenment.. thats what gods are for...and if they send every edilon in the system to tell you to pray.. then i'd pray big time if i were you.

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[info]jahred13
2008-03-28 01:21 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for posting that, it is really, really useful. I have just been to my second ever event so I am still a bit unsure on prayers but that has helped me tremendously!

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[info]sesquipedality
2008-03-28 07:07 pm UTC (link)
I think the key thing to remember about prayer is that while you can ask your God for things in a prayer, it's highly unlikely you will receive anything as a result. Prayers are about letting your chosen deity know about you. What's happening to you, how you feel about it, what you're planning to do. This is different from the traditional concept of prayer as many of us understand it and can be confusing for a new player.

Put simply, "Supplications are for asking, prayers are for telling".

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[info]logmplus1
2008-04-19 04:58 pm UTC (link)
That's fantastic, thank you!

Now I just wish I'd seen it *before* I started playing my priest...

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[info]ahdok
2009-04-19 01:04 am UTC (link)
I'd say these were pretty good guidelines.

Of course you might not want to always follow them :) I can think of three I might consider breaking on occasion.

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