pikelet ([info]birthmark) wrote in [info]macintosh,
@ 2008-10-28 12:50:00
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Current mood: annoyed

How do I tell what's keeping my Mac awake?
I've noticed in the past month or so, my iMac never sleeps anymore. The display goes off, but it doesn't actually go to sleep. I thought it was because of Connect360, but I checked and 'Prevent system sleep while Connect360 is active' is not actually on. My Energy Saver settings are fine; they're set to display off after 10 minutes and sleep after 15 minutes.

I can tell it's not happening - I'll go away for lunch, come back in an hour and the little sleep light isn't pulsing, and there's no little lag like it's waking up. This is a big problem. I leave my computer on overnight a LOT to download torrents. Usually, it'd go to sleep if everything had finished downloading or seeding, but even if nothing at all is active, it doesn't go to sleep. That is particularly worrying - we've had a huge increase in our powerbill. We thought it was leaving the Xbox 360 plugged in so now we unplug it from the wall when finished with it, but that barely made a difference. I'm thinking it's the Mac not sleeping.

It doesn't go to sleep when logged into my account, which is always running Camino, iCal, Mail, Stattoo and Adium, plus in the menubar, Connect360, Last.fm and the Western Digital Drive Manager. It doesn't sleep on my mother's account either - same Energy Saver settings, but her open apps are Mail, Stattoo and some solitaire game. Plus WD Drive Manager and I think Connect360 runs on her account too. This makes me think it's some kind of background process OR that perhaps its the external WD MyBook keeping the Mac awake. That would be a problem - my torrents download to it, so I can't just unplug it on those downloading nights.

How should I go about tracking down the reason my Mac's not getting its beauty sleep?




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Usually it means,..
[info]ngb2k
2008-10-28 12:07 am UTC (link)
... that an application is still busy. The other thing you could check is: if one of the programms you run overrides the sleeping mode.

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Re: Usually it means,..
[info]birthmark
2008-10-28 12:15 am UTC (link)
The only ones that have options for that are Connect360 (the option is off, and it's not even connected to the Xbox 90% of the time anyway, so its not 'active') and Transmission, which only prevents sleep while active torrents are downloading. Since it doesn't sleep during the day, when Transmission is not open, it can't be that. Camino isn't downloading anything, nor are any pages actually loading when I walk away. Adium is logged in, but I'm pretty sure it never prevented sleep before as I've always used it since the day I got my Mac.

As far as I know, even if you keep Mail open and checking for new mail every 5 minutes, it doesn't prevent system sleep, right? I'm sure it slept before, and I've always had Mail set to open with login.

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[info]icineast
2008-10-28 12:13 am UTC (link)
Go into your utilities folder and open up activity monitor. You can use that to see what exactly your system is doing, and you may find the culprit.

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[info]birthmark
2008-10-28 12:29 am UTC (link)
Already in my dock :) The only things I can see that strike me as different are two apps related to the WD drive (WDDriveManagerStatusMenu and WDDriveManagerSe).

Everything else seems to make sense - it's either some system process, related to an open app (Last.fm Helper could be it, maybe - it tends to go into not responding status a lot even though the app works, but again, I've had that around forever and I purposely did not download a new version of the app), or various drivers/apps that run all the time and were present before the start of this (Wacom Tablet, Growl service).

I think I'll try unplugging the WD drive while I have lunch today. I got it about the same time as the Xbox to hold external media, which was when the powerbill went waaay up, which seems to be linked to the lack of sleep as I've ruled out the Xbox. I'd like to know from someone with a WD external if that happened to them, though.

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[info]xv
2008-10-28 01:49 am UTC (link)
I have a WD but I don't have any software installed on the mac to interact with it. If you kill and uninstall those processes that might solve your problem. Sleep problems frequently have something to do with the USB bus. If it's not an external device it could be an internal usb device (such as the IR sensor).

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[info]birthmark
2008-10-28 09:13 am UTC (link)
Well, it wasn't the WD software, and it wasn't any external devices. I reset the SMC, PRAM, etc etc no help. Manual and scheduled sleep worked fine, and no apps threw up any errors or got interrupted by sleep. So it's either Energy Saver being wonky (trashed several sets of preferences, no luck) or some app resetting the sleep timer for no good reason. It's probably the latter, but since I already tried closing all my apps and their helper processes, I didn't want to muck around killing processes that I don't exactly know the purpose of. Someone elsewhere mentioned a program called NMS Sleep Assist that takes its cue from Energy Saver and basically gives the Mac a kick in the backside if it doesn't sleep. That works.

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[info]xv
2008-10-28 09:21 am UTC (link)
Another thing to try is to make a new user account and see if it persists there. That's an interesting app though thanks for passing it along.

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