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| Wednesday, February 28th, 2007 | 4:51 pm [smilingbuddha]
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2nd depression? The second Great Depression By Mike Whitney “The US economy is in danger of a recession that will prove unusually long and severe. By any measure it is in far worse shape than in 2001-02 and the unraveling of the housing bubble is clearly at hand. It seems that the continuous buoyancy of the financial markets is again deluding many people about the gravity of the economic situation.” --Dr. Kurt Richebacher “The history of all hitherto society is the history of class struggles.” --Karl Marx This week’s data on the sagging real estate market leaves no doubt that the housing bubble is quickly crashing to earth and that hard times are on the way. Read the rest of the article herecomments? | | Monday, November 20th, 2006 | 6:48 pm [yait100]
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| | Tuesday, November 7th, 2006 | 5:53 pm [nicky74]
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Дорогие друзья! В настоящий момент я работаю в Белизе, Центральная Америка. Мне нравится эта страна, люди. Возможно, у Вас есть интересы в этой части планеты: Белиз, Мексика, Гватемала, Гондурас, прочая Центральная Америка. Рад быть полезным Вам и Вашему бизнесу. Искренне, Николай Ситкарёв +501-604-2870 sitkarev@gmail.com MSN: sitkarev@gmail.com ICQ: 66464210 Разница с Москвой -9 часов Dear Sirs At the moment I work in Belize, Central America. I love this country & people. It may be, you have some interests in this part of planet: Belize, Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, Other Central America. Will be glad to help you and your business. Yours sincerely Nikolay Sitkarev +501-604-2870 sitkarev@gmail.com MSN: sitkarev@gmail.com ICQ: 66464210 | | Saturday, July 24th, 2004 | 4:34 am [smilingbuddha]
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..here's the deal.
You are being called upon in an effort to take a cost effective, pertinent and trustworthy opinion poll. You can rest assured that your invaluable opinion would be taken with multiple pinches of salt...actually make that multiple tons.
I have been offered a position at an IT Consulting company, wherein I shall be undergoing a 2 week intensive training in Data Warehousing. Upon successful completion of said course, yours truly will be placed at a client's site. Pay isn't that good, (weekly paycheck: $42,000 p.a. / 2080 hrs * no. of hours worked that week) but can't complain as I have no experience, and therefore no bargaining power. The company is based in NJ, so I can escape high NY taxes! Yay!
I would like to know if you think IT Consulting/Data Warehousing/IT Consulting in data warehousing is a good way to start off a career.... and any other pearls of wisdom you may be inclined to share.
:) | | Monday, July 19th, 2004 | 12:29 am [smilingbuddha]
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intelligent, objective replies only, please. No emotional bitching. It is very interesting to see your negative view towards offshoring.
FYI, Free trade is a concept pushed by America itself, which has served in the best interested of America as it has given American producers access to foreign markets (thus creating and preserving American jobs) for a long time.
Additionally, its a 2-way street. If we are going to push our products onto foreigners, we should also be ready face the other side of the story, i.e. face competition from them as workers. Globalization, I reiterate, is a 2 way street.
How would you feel if Toyota pulled all their factories out of the US, because they are employing "foreign" workers and it is no longer acceptable to unemployed Japanese workers?
My suggestion to all is to find employment in areas that require AMERICAN expertise, and cannot be fulfilled by others cheaper and better (which is the case about jobs sent to India, as the average Indian is doing the job cheaper and better). And whining never really helped anyone. | | Sunday, July 18th, 2004 | 8:34 pm [philipthegeek] |
Chase doesn't earn my business Anyone still using this community? I just turned down Chase for a credit card because the third customer service guy I talked to was admirably candid about how offshoring has impacted them. (The first was Kevin in India; the second was a woman in Arlington, TX.) I'll cross-post to offshoring, lost_jobs_usa, my "real" journal at cynicallynaive, and who knows where else.... | | Thursday, April 29th, 2004 | 2:24 pm [philipthegeek] |
| | Monday, March 29th, 2004 | 9:48 am [philipthegeek] |
New community: offshoring OK, folks, I went ahead and set up the new community: offshoring. The "charter" is a little different than this group, so i don't see them as competing, but rather as complimentary. I'd love to get tons of posts in both. | | Sunday, March 28th, 2004 | 10:34 pm [oldirty]
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I think the solution to this problem is just a decade away. When the baby boomers start dying, we'll have an abundance of jobs with no one to work them. Several times as many people will be leaving the workforce as coming in. | | Wednesday, March 17th, 2004 | 1:37 pm [philipthegeek] |
Is this the right community for me? I was thinking about starting a community for reasoned discussion about offshoring, particularly in taking a critical look at its supposed benefits, where those various opinions could engage in civil debate. But I looked to see if any such community existed, and I found this. I'm not sure if it meets my need or not. The info page and title of the community make it sound as though the only opinion welcome here is that offshoring is a Bad Thing and must be stopped however possible. On one hand I'm very sympathetic toward that point of view, and i'm not that far from it now. I was an out of work techie for almost two years, and even now i don't have much motivation to go building my tech skills just so i can be even more skilled and unemployed at some point down the road. On the other hand, i was an Econ major, and i do give at least an intellectual assent to free trade as a net benefit to society. Therefore, i think i owe it to myself to work through some of these issues, like, - Is there truly a way for society as a whole (the "winner" of free trade) to fairly compensate those who lose jobs?
- How can i, as someone who's enjoyed building technical skills but isn't necessarily married to them, broaden myself so that i'm not getting pounded by the offshoring wave?
- Is it true to say that soon, competition for labor will bid Indian salaries up so that either (1) the advantage to moving jobs there will diminish and tech will move back or stay in the 1st world, or (2) cost-conscious CIO's will lay off their Indian staff and move to some cheaper workforce, like say the Philippines?
- How true is the conventional wisdom that you shouldn't outsource core competencies? and can you really offshore them but keep them "in house", e.g. by hiring developing-country staff, without paying a price in communication?
- If society grants incorporation privileges, doesn't it have the right to demand some social concern in return?
- Is anyone really following McKinsey's advice to use the profits from offshoring to fund insurance for those who see their jobs disrupted?
And so on. Way too many topics here for one thread, but anyway.... So should I stay in this community or start my own? Current Music: My neighbor's pop radio | | Wednesday, February 11th, 2004 | 1:02 am [pickledginger]
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Outsourcing is good for U.S. economy, Bush advisor declares I only wish I were kidding; it's all, too true, according to The Washington Post. A somewhat abbreviated version of the story follows: ... President Bush's top economist yesterday said the outsourcing of U.S. service jobs to workers overseas is good for the nation's economy.
Shipping jobs to low-cost countries is the "latest manifestation of the gains from trade that economists have talked about" for centuries, said N. Gregory Mankiw, chairman of the White House Council of Economic Advisers. Just as U.S. consumers have enjoyed lower prices from foreign manufacturers, so too should they benefit from services being offered by overseas companies that have lower labor costs, he said.
Mankiw's comments come as the president struggles to shore up support in manufacturing states that have lost millions of jobs and Democratic rivals make economic nationalism a centerpiece of their attacks on the administration.
U.S. job growth is sluggish, though many sectors of the economy appear to be recovering smartly. Mankiw released the White House's annual Economic Report of the President yesterday, predicting 2.6 million new payroll jobs by the end of the year. But such projections have proved problematic. Last year's report projected 1.7 million new jobs would be added in 2003. The 2002 report was even more optimistic, predicting 3 million new jobs in 2003.
Instead, the nation lost 53,000 payroll jobs last year, the Labor Department says. ( Read more... ) Current Mood: astoundedCurrent Music: the sound of thousands of pink slips being printed | | Monday, January 26th, 2004 | 11:05 am [phelonyproducts]
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| | Thursday, January 22nd, 2004 | 6:17 pm [kaiserscott]
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I'm interested in starting some kind of letter writing campaign against outsourcing. My dad lost his job at IBM about a year and a half ago, and I'm concerned about the future developments. I would like such a thing to be national... we need to inform people about what is happening. We can't let this continue to happen. Any suggestions? | | Monday, January 19th, 2004 | 9:16 am [phelonyproducts]
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“We are going to hire more in the U.S. than we shift overseas"; well isn't that considerate? Interesting article. Hi I'm new, but I was happy to find this Community because I'm outraged by the amount of jobs exported to other countries when qualified, skilled friends of mine are now without jobs here in the USA. IBM to add 15,000 new employees worldwide ~ Figure includes 4,500 jobs in U.S.Less than 1/3 of new employees will be jobs in the US; I think they could do better. | | Sunday, December 7th, 2003 | 11:43 pm [pickledginger]
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White-collar jobs the latest U.S. export Who Wins and Who Loses as Jobs Move Overseas? December 7, 2003 By ERIKA KINETZ The New York Times The outsourcing of jobs to China and India is not new, but lately it has earned a chilling new adjective: professional. Advances in communications technology have enabled white-collar jobs to be shipped from the United States and Europe as never before, and the outcry from workers who once considered themselves invulnerable is creating a potent political force. After falling by 2.8 million jobs since early 2001, [U.S.] employment has risen by 240,000 jobs since August. That gain, less than some expected, has not resolved whether the nation is suffering cyclical losses or permanent job destruction. Last month, The International Herald Tribune convened a roundtable at the Algonquin Hotel in Manhattan to discuss how job migration is changing the landscape. ( Read more... ) |
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