LJ Malay Translation Team

Tackling some immediate issues

Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:21:19 GMT

Ok people, we need to sort a few things out.

1. Joining lj_malay
The community userinfo says:

Joining the Team
Anyone with a fair grasp of the language and some time to spare can join the team. Please join the community and send an email to lj_malay @ livejournal.com to request translation privileges.

In the past few months, I have received a number of notifications of people wanting to join the community. Most of you completed step 1 (joining the community), but none of you finished the application process by actually sending in that email.

Now it's really easy to hit "Join" but this community doesn't need a huge roster of members who are sitting around not planning to do anything. Sending in that email shows that you really are interested in what we do here. If you just want to watch, you can always friend the community.

If you've tried joining lately and received no response, read the userinfo to see what information I require and send in that email.

2. Active Translators
I could be imagining things, but I've been noticing bits of translated sections that I could have sworn was in English the last time I was at that page. Is anyone actively translating at the moment? If you are, we need you to say so. There are two reasons for this:

First, claiming pages will ensure that no two people accidentally work on the same page at the same time without being aware of it. It allows us to keep track of what's being done, what's been done, and what's left to do. We have a word list here for those common and reoccurring terms that must be kept standard.

Secondly, if I don't know you're active, I can't tell the Paid Account Fairy that you've been good and deserve a few months of Paid Account as a reward. If the guys over at lj_translate does an active check, I'm gonna end up saying, "Nope. All crickets here." This isn't nice if you have been working. I like people to have a fair chance of being rewarded for their effort, if they want it.

3. Wanted: New Head
Due to various reasons that include "RL ate me" and "My Malay has deserted me", I have been inactive in this community for a good number of months now... which isn't very nice when you're the head. I'll be happy to hand over the reins to anyone who plans on being more active than I am. If there isn't anyone, I guess I'm fine sitting here doing nothing too.

Updates all around

Fri, 12 May 2006 12:22:01 GMT

This is an active check, as I haven't been active myself in some time and I'm not sure what everyone is up to.

As a reminder, page claims are listed here. If you ever want to see who's currently doing what, that's where to go. You should ideally also post a reply there if you're claiming a page, just in case I'm slacking in updating the list.

This is the current list of translators with privs:

cempakasari
inkpots
mentallysane
riddler_
rino_asakura
serabut
tarlia
vilified

Please welcome riddler_ and rino_asakura.

A few people on the list requested privs but didn't join the community and/or are never heard from again. I thought I might as well do a general active check: If you're staying on, reply and let me know if you're doing anything. I'd hardly call a kettle black if you're not up to anything at the moment, but just let me know if you're around. Oh, and claim a page.

If I don't hear back from anyone within a week, privs will be removed.

The sidebar should contain links to everything you need. If you're new, take a look around and don't hesitate to ask if you're fuzzy on anything.

Cheers.

Am at: /community/index.bml.main

Sun, 23 Apr 2006 10:55:12 GMT

Hey guys, sorry that haven't dropped in for so long, but I got some time to kill for now, so I'm working on the page above. Hope that's all right? Here's the link: HERE (the top half has been translated and I did not touch that)

Here's a few more contentious terms:
- downtime - which I translated as 'masa rosak' (as according to LinguaWeb), plus I added the original English term in brackets.
- instant messengers - I maintained this in quotes, the translation of Many of them use popular instant messengers becomes Ramai yang menggunakan program-program 'instant messenger' yang popular
- Chat - For the header of that section ('Chat!') I maintained the original term, however for the body of the text I translated it to 'borak'. I maintained the header because I figure it is in common usage in Malay anyway.
- text messages - this I simply translated to 'SMS', as per the Malaysian usage. :)
- Open Source - Sumber Terbuka?
- Server-side application - ??

That's all for now!

LinguaWeb

Thu, 02 Mar 2006 08:46:18 GMT

[ Link ]

Adlan of neuramatix.com plugged this site in an older post. It's an English-Malay translation tool. Try it out. :-)

Word & Phrase List (Last Updated: Jan 30)

Fri, 06 Jan 2006 15:48:22 GMT

Not sure about the ones in italics.

A

Account = akaun
Account creation = rekaan akaun
Account name = nama akaun
Actions = tindakan
Approve = benarkan
access = capaian
additionally = tambahan pula
available = sedia ada

B

Birthday = Hari jadi

C

comment = komen
community = komuniti
create = reka
create community = rekakan komuniti
create journal = rekakan jurnal
click = klik
change = ubah (also see: switch)
current = semasa
currently = pada masa kini

D

Default = asal
download = muat turun
database =pangkalan data
(marked as) deleted = (ditanda sebagai) sudah dihapuskan

E

Edit = sunting
Entry = catatan?
email = emel
enter = menginputkan (isikan / masukkan?)

F

FAQ = Soal Jawab
friend/s = sahabat
friends list = senarai sahabat
follow = menurut
following = (yang) berikut

G

H

help = bantuan
home = laman utama

I

information = maklumat
information practices = pengendalian maklumat
instructions = arahan
interest = minat
invalid = tidak sahih

J

journal = jurnal

K

keywords = kata kunci

L

M

made = dijadikan
Maintain = selenggara
maintainer = penyelenggara
make sure = pastikan
Manage = urus
mark = tanda (marked = ditanda)
Moderate = awas/pengawasan
Moderator = pengawas
modify = ubah suai

N

note = ambil perhatian

O

Options = opsyen

P

password = kata laluan
personal account = akaun perseorangan
personal journal = jurnal perseorangan
post = pos
preview = pratonton (view = pandang)
privacy polisi = polisi persendirian
proceed = terus
protocol = protokol
purge = singkir

Q

R

region = rantau
Relevant Links = Link yang berkaitan / Hubungan yang berkaitan?
reply = balas
request = permohonan
reserved = dikecualikan

S

search = carian
Security = Sekuriti
switch = tukar (also see: change)
step by step = langkah demi langkah
success = berjaya
suspend = gantung
suspended = diberhentikan sementara

T

U

unique = unik
update = kemaskini
upload = muat naik
user = pengguna
username = nama pengguna

V

valid = sahih
validated = memperakui (not validated = belum diperakui)
view = pandang (preview = pratonton)
Verification = Pengesahan

W

website = laman

X

Y

Z

Happy new year!

Fri, 06 Jan 2006 15:07:02 GMT

Before this slips further down my list of To-Do's...

A little reminder that all translators need to join and watch lj_translate, which is not terribly traffic-heavy and quite useful.

If you have not done so, I encourage you to change your language setting to Bahasa Melayu so you can actually see it in action when you move around LJ.

You can claim your page here.

If anyone wants me, I'll be staring blankly at the accountstatus.bml page.

Catching up

Tue, 27 Dec 2005 16:04:07 GMT

I apologise for dropping out of sight. I got eaten by Real Life.

I was planning to write something about how things will work around here but suddenly, three weeks passed and I haven't done anything. So! I'm just gonna jump in the deep end as usual and answer the questions as they come.

If you came here via a Malaysian community, welcome. Please take a look around, particularly at this post since it should address what you need to know before you decide to join us. If you have any further questions, please ask in that post or this one.

burr86 made a post about using the translation interface. Useful read, if you haven't seen it.

I am still looking for someone to manage the master word list. I explained further in this post.

Out of the 26 members in this community, 2 are lj_translate people (so I'll leave you alone), 3 or 4 registered interest in continuing, and there is no sound from the rest. At some point, I'll be removing those who are not (active) translators. It's not on the top of my list, but I could randomly get ~~anal retentive~~ restless and start spring-cleaning.

2006 is when we officially get started, whether or not we get extra help after this.

Here's to the new year.

FAQ ver. 1

Thu, 08 Dec 2005 12:10:36 GMT

This FAQ is a work in progress. I hope it'll help answer basic questions for those who are interested and those who are already here.

Do ask if any point needs clarification or any questions are unaddressed.

General

I'm interested in helping you translate. What do I do?
Email me at lj_malay @ livejournal.com with your username and let me know what you can do. If you're a professional translator or you speak/write excellent Malay, I want to know.

(Note to those who came here via malaysians or katakita: reply to this post.)

What will translation work involve?
We will be going through LJ page by page with the Language Editor. I will not be imposing any strict deadlines or anything, but I do expect some progress within a reasonable time frame.

burr86 posted a very helpful guide here on how the user interface works.

I can't continue helping anymore because [insert reason here].
Not a problem. This is strictly volunteer work so nobody will make you stay if you can't or don't want to. All I ask for is that you let us know what you are working on (if any) so the next person knows what to do.

I don't understand Malay and I need something translated. Can I ask you?
No. Go ask somewhere else.

Error Reports

Wed, 07 Dec 2005 07:46:02 GMT

Spot an error in the translation? Tell us exactly where you found it.

Thanks for your help!

'Translation privileges' dan lain-lain

Mon, 05 Dec 2005 15:27:03 GMT

Hey all.

I've purged the translation privileges list of the former translators and updated with those who recently offered. If you're interested in (re)joining the team, please comment here.

As this is an official LJ translation community, I ask that all posts here stay on topic. I'll be going through the old posts and removing the unrelated and obsolete ones (since there's few enough posts to go through and I like the idea of starting on a clean slate).

We will also be making use of the tags to help us keep track of what's been/being done. We'll discuss this another time. Right now, I'm tagging old posts that we'll be keeping for reference.

Oh yeah, please use the Subject line when posting.

I'm a little confused with some of serabut's old posts. It says things like "Page 1: so and so" but I find no such thing when I go to Page 1. I suspect the pages have changed since then. serabut, if you're reading this, can you verify this? In any case, I'm keeping her posts for reference.

Apart from actual translating work, we need a master word list to ensure consistency. If anyone is interested in this task, let me know. You don't have to actually be one of the translators or do any translating work if you don't want to. You just have to compile a list of words and keep it up to date as additional words come in. You'll probably be kept rather busy in the beginning!

serabut, sol and putri have contributed greatly to this in the earlier stages of this project so their posts (tagged here) is a good place to start.

To all previous translators, thank you for kicking off the project. You're welcomed back on the job anytime.

I'm working on a recruitment post for malaysians and katakita and will probably post within the next couple of days, after I work a few more things out.

Active Check

Fri, 02 Dec 2005 01:32:03 GMT

In early November, I received an email from LiveJournal Translation Coordinator Ryan Fitzpatrick seeking active translators still willing to work on this project. I replied saying that I haven't been active, but I'm willing to give it another go.

This morning, I realised that I've been upped to the Maintainer of of this community... after getting an email saying that lj_malay has been upgraded to a Permanent Account.

Ok... I don't recall asking, but I was gonna offer if sol didn't want to do it anymore. You still there sol?

Rambling aside, this is a roll call. If you still want to help translate LJ to Malay, reply here and we'll get this place organised. :-)

Still On?

Fri, 28 Oct 2005 17:25:35 GMT

Hi all, at least those of you who are still alive over here. I realize the last entry in this community was eons ago and it might have been "shut down" due to the lack of activity, but..

I've just joined the community and I'd like to find out if the Malay translations are still going on. I'd love to help, but I'm not sure if I could do this on my own. I don't think I could manage the community, simply because I've never done it before and I don't manage any other communities on LiveJournal.

And with reference to the details provided in the userinfo, my native language is most definitely not Malay. I only happen to live in Malaysia. And I used to attend government schools, so my grasp on the language is fairly strong.

Mostly, I just want to know if anything's still going on around here. I checked up on the statistics, and apparently we've got about 14% done.

Testing, tesing

Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:52:22 GMT

Alright, I'm a little new here. I have no idea how to save the changes, so I'll let anyone who does know do it..after they got through it.

Page 8:/editinfo.bml.userpic.none
Tiada gambar dimuatnaikkan

Page 8:/editinfo.bml.userpic.header
Gambar Anda

Page 151:[faq] 77.2answer
Komuniti LiveJournal ialah tempat pertemuan. Pengguna-pengguna yang berminat dengan sesuatu subjek boleh mencari atau mewujudkan suatu komuniti berdasarkan subjek tersebut. Contohnya, penduduk sesuatu pekan atau bandar boleh berkumpul untuk saling menukar maklumat tentang subjek tersebut atau untuk mengumumkan isu-isu tempatan.

Terdapat beberapa perbezaan antara jurnal komuniti dengan jurnal persendirian:

Sesebuah komuniti mempunyai "penjaga." Penjaga ini adalah seorang pengguna, di mana akaun jurnal persendiriannya asing daripada akaun komuniti, yang mengawasi isu-isu di dalam sesebuah komuniti, mengawal seting komuniti tersebut dan Informasi Komuniti, dan menjalankan fungsi-fungsi pengurusan lain. Sesebuah komuniti mungkin mempunyai beberapa penjaga yang kesemuanya mempunyai akses pengurusan.

Entri dan komen dalan jurnal komuniti dibuat oleh akaun lain yang merupakan jurnal persendirian. Akaun komuniti tidak boleh mengepos entri ataupun komen.

Entri yang dibuat dalam jurnal komuniti akan dikaitkan dengan gambar pengguna pengguna yang telah mengeposkannya. Gambar pengguna komuniti hanya akan digunakan jika penulis entri tiada gambar fungsi lalai yang telah ditetapkan dan tidak mengspesifikasikan gambar untuk digunakan. Gambar pengguna komuniti tidak boleh dipilih apabila mengepos entri.

Selain daripada http://www.livejournal.com/users/namakomuniti/ dan http://www.livejournal.com/~namakomuniti/, sesebuah jurnal komuniti boleh diakses di http://www.livejournal.com/community/namakomuniti/. Jika komuniti tersebut mempunyai Akaun Dibayar, komuniti tersebut juga boleh diakses di http://namakomuniti.livejournal.com/.

Pengguna boleh menjadi ahli sesebuah komuniti dengan menyertai komuniti tersebut. Terletak kepada penjaga komuniti untuk membuat keputusan bagi membenarkan sesiapapun untuk menyertai komuniti tersebut ataupun menambah ahli secara manual.

Menyertai suatu komuniti berlainan daripada menambahnya kepada senarai Sahabat anda. Menambahkan sesebuah komuniti kepada senarai Sahabat anda dianggap "memantau" sesebuah komuniti. Anda boleh memantau sesebuah komuniti tanpa menjadi ahlinya, atau menjadi ahli komuniti tanpa memantaunya. Pengguna yang menyenaraikan sesebuah komuniti sebagai sahabat dipaparkan di Informasi Komuniti di bawah "Dipantau Oleh".

Ahli kepada komuniti adalah seperti Sahabat kepada akaun persendirian. Entri "Sahabat-sahaja" dalam sesebuah komuniti terus menjadi "Ahli-sahaja"; entri tersebut hanya boleh dilihat oleh ahli komuniti tersebut. Entri dengan sekuriti Sulit atau Khas tidak boleh dibuat dalam suatu komuniti.

A lil' bit o' work...

Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:34:28 GMT

Holaaaas. Because I'm anal, here we go... :)
(p/s lilyn, if you're onboard, welcome! And er, sila-silalah buat notation like this, just so obssessive people like me can keep up. Hehe.)

Again, please give feedback etc if you feel patut ditukar or anything. :)

Page 1: /changepassword.bml.changepassword.instructions --to-- /editinfo.bml.blockrobots.header (Sev:3)
- reminder, 'enter' is translated into 'input'. Got better suggestions? (e.g: enter an account creation code = sila inputkan kod penciptaan akaun)
- Turn this on if you want your city/state/country and birthday to be visible to other users. = Pilih opsyen ini...
- It seems a little creative translation is needed, as the instructions are very casual, and thus, slang-y.

Page 2: /editinfo.bml.chat.aolim.title --to-- /editinfo.bml.error.day.outofrange (sev:3)
- this one, I just copy balik all the names, because your typical Malay-language user would've used the terms in the original form anyway (or at least understood it), like AOL IM or ICQ UIN. Kalau for those yang boleh translate like MSN Username, then I translate.

Page 3: /editinfo.bml.error.email.lj_domain --to-- /editinfo.bml.error.locale.state_ne_country (sev: 3)

Page 4: /editinfo.bml.error.locale.zip_ne_state --to-- /editinfo.bml.finished.header (Sev: 3)
- I know United States is Amerika Syarikat in BM, but I'm keeping United States, because I realised that the country list will not be translated (at least, I tak jumpa lagi) and it'll be confusing. (same goes for pg 3)
- or a nickname or handle. = atau nama samaran. That's it. It means the same thing, kan?
- If you're going to use text messaging = Jika anda ingin menggunakan perkhidmatan SMS
- Service provider?? help! Penyedia servis?

Would like to do more, but gtg. :)

Complete: 25.37%

Even shorter update.

Sat, 20 Sep 2003 17:21:13 GMT

Remember this one:

Page 1: //customize/index.bml.error.no_core_parent --to-- developer/index.bml.styles.s1.system.about// Sev: 3
- No core parent?: Tiada ibu teras?

Ok, changed it. Parent, from ibu to induk. So now it is: 'tiada induk teras?'/

All right, g'nite all. :)

Short update!

Fri, 19 Sep 2003 07:12:43 GMT

Hola you all,

Sorry dah lama tak buat kerja, but am busy with other stuff (e.g other translating projects that I need to pass. Bah.)

At this mo' haven't continued yet, but am posting this very interesting bit of trivia....

The word 'default' does not exist within DBP's lexicon...! waaaah....

Seriously. I went to look it up at the mammoth Dwibahasa one, the one with the jade green cover, but no dice. I looked it up in its Computer and Technical Bilingual one, pun takde.

In the end, it's the Federal-Chambers Dictionary that came through.

So, you know, for future reference, the word for default is...

'fungsi lalai'.

ok, ta! see y'all later. :)

Yo ho ho, another day another day

Tue, 02 Sep 2003 08:30:45 GMT

Howya all today? Watched Pirates of the Caribbean yet? ^^

I think I'm finally getting the hang of this notation thing. LOL

Things to remember: Friend - Sahabat. Also, get that damn technical glossary.

Anal Grammar notes, thanks to my lecturer:
compound words are spelled separately in root form (e.g ubah suai; hak milik), but spelled together with prefixes and suffixes (e.g. diubahsuaikan)

Notes for today:

Page 1: //customize/index.bml.error.no_core_parent --to-- developer/index.bml.styles.s1.system.about// Sev: 3
- No core parent?: Tiada ibu teras? (Help me out here. Any better suggestion for parent?)
- Previews: pratonton
- Early adopter: pengguna awal
- Advanced: lebih taraf
- To create new layers and styles from scratch: Untuk mencipta lapisan dan stail baru tanpa acuan
- setup: disusun/tersusun

Page 2: //developer/index.bml.styles.s1.varlist --to-- developer/index.bml.title// Sev:3
- Variable: Pembolehubah
- Browser: (I'm sure there's a proper term in Malay, but I'm going with the common usage rule. HAHA)

Page 3: //ddirectory.bml.error.accounttype --to-- doc/index.bml.docs.tour.about// Sev:3
- Log in: login
- Repository: Tempat simpanan
- (I forgot!) Server: Pelayan (don't laugh. I toldya official translation kinda iffy)
- Frequently Asked Questions about LiveJournal.com: FAQ atau Soal Jawab mengenai LiveJournal.com
- Tips and tricks: tip dan helah (blergh)
- hack: godam. (yup. I'm not kidding)

Page 4: //doc/index.bml.docs.tour.title --to-- doc/tour/index.bml.comms.title// Sev: 3
- Tour: Teroka (actual use), but I use Lawatan
- (Forgot lagi)Program: Aturcara

Page 5: //doc/tour/index.bml.create.caption --to-- doc/tour/index.bml.nav.prev// Sev: 3
- (d'oh) Create: cipta
- Friends: Para Sahabat

Page 6: //doc/tour/index.bml.profile.caption --to-- editinfo.bml.allowshowcontact.email.withdomainaddr// Sev: 3
- Site Map: Peta Laman

Ok, I'm going to my Japanese class now. -_-;;

At time of post: 24.26% done

Because I'm crazy.

Mon, 01 Sep 2003 18:08:45 GMT

More updates:

- debugging: nyahpijat. :P (Code: /create.bml.clusterselect.text )
- spammers: ...maintain...
- layout: ...maintain... (definition: http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/l/layout.html)
- customize: peribadikan
- backend: kod asas
- table: ...maintain... (Code: /developer/index.bml.dbschema)
- Embed: menanam. (Pah. Code: /developer/index.bml.embedding // in the page starting with Code: /developer/index.bml.dbschema)

At time of post: 20.37% done.

G'nite!

Hey newbie post.... + update

Mon, 01 Sep 2003 17:13:00 GMT

Hey guys,
So right now tengah mentranslate. As usual, am stumped by the technical terms. Too bad, I don't have the DBP Computer Glossary right about now.
My method right now is to find the meaning of the terms in English and menggapai for an appropriate Malay term....

Stumped: (in brackets are what I'm using now)

- Default *first encountered in pg 1* - (asal)
definition: http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/d/default.html
- Attribute *first encountered in pg 6* - (ciri)
definition: http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/a/attribute.html

Update: (anyone welcome to a better suggestion)
- Actions: gerakan
- Manage: urus
- Moderate : awas/pengawasan
- Moderator: pengawas
- Maintain: kendali
- You need to enter your username: //in place of enter, I put 'menginputkan'. Ok?//
- friend: kawan
- Setting: seting (this one I checked in the DBP bilingual dictionary. But then again, it's not a computer specific dict.) I do like the sound of 'larasan'... but like I said, we need a proper English-Malay computer/technical glossary. (and I'm broke. Bweh)
- Username: Nama pengguna
- Password: Kata laluan (seeing how thanks to EraFM, it's now common usage)
- Access: laluan/kebenaran, whichever's appropriate
- Posting Access: Kebenaran Mempos //Posting is another word for 'publish', though I think 'menerbit' is damn melampau...//
- Approve this entry? : Benarkan pos ini?
- pre-approved : pra-dibenarkan //pg 8 & 11//
- poster: Yang membuat pos //pg 8//
- View: ruang pandangan //pg 9//
- protocol error: ralat protokol //pg 11//

In other news:
Now that Google has its own Malaysian version, I'll accept that the word for 'search' is 'carian'. Duly noted and acted on. (search - first encountered in pg 4// LJ Search Community //)

Also, regional communities >> komuniti rantauan. ok?

Plus, I maintained FAQ as it is. I think it's an acronym of common usage, so I left it be. I know there's a proper translation for 'link' too, but going by the common usage rule, I'm letting that be.

Heh. I sound so incredibly anal.

*pages done: 1 to... 20 at 0+ severity search... I dunno man. I forgot how I got these pages* Everyone welcome to check, comment, suggest etc etc.
At the time of post: 17.91% done

Page 1

Fri, 07 Jun 2002 11:08:30 GMT

Sikit je baru. Confuse nye banyak.
With the help of ePedoman.com, I managed to do this bit.

Default = ????
Edit = sunting?
upload = muat naik
download = memuat turunkan
Keywords = Kata kunci
Relevant Links = Link yang berkaitan / Hubungan yang berkaitan?
community = kommuniti / masyarakat?
post = pos / kirim?

check out Page 1 later and edit mana yg tak betul.
easier to translate a whole sentence (that u could still comprehend) rather than one word at a time, i think. tsk!

and sorry if i accidently terkacau someone else's translations =)

oi!

Tue, 28 May 2002 15:36:04 GMT

i've made some changes to the translations that some of us might have made. i hope it's alright with you guys. I think it is important for us to not focus too much in just translating the language word for word. we ought to consider how it sounds too since every language has their own structure in their sentence. anyway, i'll probably do more corrections when i can. in the mean time, if there's any "translated" sections that you think is not right, do inform us yeah...

btw... i'm suggesting some of these just so that our translation can be more uniformed and consistent. those who are armed with the new edition of dewan bahasa will probably have a lot of things to say to me... don't be too harsh on this list, k... =(

create = reka
website = laman
update = kemaskini
modify = ubah suai
switch = tukar
FAQ = Soal Jawab
comment = komen
user = pengguna
post = pos
preview = ?
reply = balas
interest = minat
home = rumah NOTTT!!! laman utama (perhaps)
region = rantau
maintainer = penyelenggara

also...
Options = opsyen or pilihan?
friend/s = kawan/sahabat/rakan??
password = kata laluan or should it be maintained as it is?
username = nama pengguna or maintained as it is?

hah~ did my presentation today, so i decided to treat myself to a night of translations!

we don't necessarily speak malay all the time, but we're doing it anyway!

Mon, 13 May 2002 16:43:33 GMT

introducing the Malay language to Livejournal...

use your translating privilege at this site:
http://www.livejournal.com/translate/. we'll have to wait for a while before we can actually start translating. in the mean time i guess we can play around with the interface provided through the other languages.

jackyyu
tarlia
mydia
rocco25
harimauj

also, http://www.livejournal.com/community/lj_translate/ will be a useful site for us to fool around. those other teams are already done with their stuff. bah~ try to join that community as it's basically the head office.

oh and lastly, this is the place for us to have our discussions... maybe conversations in broken malay and manglish... indulge in off topic discussions and what not. ;)