Zoi ([info]it0376) wrote in [info]lj_ellinika,
@ 2006-02-04 04:01:00
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Finding more translators.
Writing in English for Abe's sake :p

I commented on an ancient entry I found in ljtranslators, where someone was interested in translating LJ to Greek. Will see if I get a reply.

[info]pne, or anyone, really, do you have any idea how we could find more people? I don't mean to step on your toes, btw, just trying to get things moving a bit, I guess, because, even if I've started translating again, there are so many strings. *dies*

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[info]donnaidh_sidhe
2006-02-04 02:40 am UTC (link)
I have little experience translating and I expect my knowledge of Greek technical language is pretty crappy, so I won't be willing to spearhead it (too much on my plate as it is). However, I can still try to help.

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[info]it0376
2006-02-04 04:53 am UTC (link)
Translating LJ isn't that hard, really. You don't need to know that many technical terms. It's pretty much a few LJ-related things (such as entry, userpic etc). So I think that you could easily deal with most of the stuff. And you can always ask for help or ask me to look over what you have translated.

So it'd be lovely if you could help a bit. :)

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[info]donnaidh_sidhe
2006-02-04 05:02 am UTC (link)
Who's running the show?

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[info]it0376
2006-02-04 05:07 am UTC (link)
Responsible for all translating teams is [info]burr86. The Head for the Greek translating team is [info]pne, who is the one that can grant you translating privileges. The people translating are, well, me for now.

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[info]donnaidh_sidhe
2006-02-04 05:08 am UTC (link)
I'll need to look at a translators' FAQ first, though. But it sounds interesting and I think I can manage some rough translation if a better speaker can fine-tune things.

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[info]it0376
2006-02-04 05:13 am UTC (link)
Sure, I don't mind at all having a look at your translation and tweaking it, if necessary.

There is the lj_translate community (which all translators should watch). There you can find some very useful info about how the translating interface works, even if it's pretty self explanatory. Also, you can check the already translated text (though some of it may be out of date - I haven't yet gone through everything, because, well, it's a lot).

If you have any questions, do not hesitate to ask!

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[info]donnaidh_sidhe
2006-02-04 06:38 am UTC (link)
Er, question: how do I put the accents on vowels in Windows?

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[info]pne
2006-02-04 01:33 pm UTC (link)
Are you using a Greek Windows keyboard layout? Then you make the accents with the key next to the L (I think it's ";" on a US keyboard layout) followed by the vowel.

If not, what method are you using to type Greek?

At work, I installed a Greek keyboard layout, which I find the easiest way to do things; at home, the keyboard language indicator kept disappearing and so I removed all but the German layout -- to type Greek here, I start up SC UniPad, which comes with a bunch of keyboard layouts, including Greek, and then use copy and paste.

The free version is fully functional for only the first 10 minutes are program start; after that, you can't edit documents containing more than 1000 characters until you restart the program. So for short to medium-length translation items, that's sufficient.

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[info]donnaidh_sidhe
2006-02-04 06:50 am UTC (link)
Also, I need a link to a site with Greek computer vocabulary. My new vocab intake stopped abruptly when I left Greek school at 10, before I started becoming obsessed with the Internet. :P

My mother's going to be so thrilled I'm taking a renewed interest in the language...

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[info]it0376
2006-02-05 05:13 am UTC (link)
Well, um. I don't know any place to find Greek computer vocabulary, to be honest. You could, though, post an entry with words you'd like to know etc and I'll give you a translation. Or email me or something. Whatever works for you, really.

And I think that [info]pne answered your questions about Greek accents. Also, another option is using Word's symbols.

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2006-05-21 11:54 pm UTC (link)
Hope this link will help you http://www.translatum.gr/dictionary/computer-greek.htm

Also on www.proz.com you can always ask for term translation or search in Kudoz glossary

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[info]pne
2006-02-04 01:35 pm UTC (link)
do you have any idea how we could find more people?

No - I don't know any Greeks beside you, I think.

I'm not sure how many Greeks there are on LiveJournal, and of those, how many are even interested in having a Greek interface -- which may be the biggest problem.

Including Greek-born Americans/Australians/etc. may widen the potential circle, but I think it comes down to people who (a) speak Greek and (b) care about a translation (and (c) are willing to put in effort). I don't know how many of those exist, nor how to find them.

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[info]it0376
2006-02-05 05:02 am UTC (link)
Yeah, it's not easy to find such a combination.

You know, I should really recruit some of my relatives or something :p

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[info]wieimmer
2006-02-15 01:48 am UTC (link)
I'll try to help. My greek is really good, but I don't know exactly what you are looking for. I'll try my best though.

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[info]it0376
2006-02-15 10:35 am UTC (link)
Awesome! I'm going to post a new entry in a while, explaining what we're looking for and more information about what you need to do to get translating privileges.

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[info]it0376
2006-02-15 10:37 am UTC (link)
You can always use online dictionnaries, or ask me for help on some terms :)

I'm going to post a new entry in a while, explaining what you're looking for and how you can help, so, keep an eye for it. You may find out that you can help, after all.

Also, you can see the current percentage at this page: http://www.livejournal.com/translate/

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[info]istorima
2006-02-15 10:13 am UTC (link)
Δοκίμασα να μεταφράσω μερικές φράσεις αλλά δεν είναι ενεργοποιημένο το save. Προφανώς κάπως θα πρέπει να πάρω posting access?
(Ε, μα φυσικά, θα μου πείτε...)

Μπορούμε να συμφωνήσουμε σε κοινές ορολογίες; Υπάρχει κάποιο σχετικό κείμενο ή ο κάθ' ένας μεταφράζει όπως του αρέσει;

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[info]it0376
2006-02-15 10:40 am UTC (link)
Ναι, δεν μπορεί ο οποιοσδήποτε να καταχωρήσει strings. Σε λιγάκι θα γράψω μια νέα καταχώρηση και θα εξηγήσω τι πρέπει να κάνετε για να σας δώσουμε translating privileges.

Όσο για τις ορολογίες, μέχρι στιγμής ήμουν η μόνη που μετέφραζε, οπότε δε χρειαζόταν. Θα πρέπει όμως να χρησιμοποιούμε όλοι τους ίδιους όρους. Θα φτιάξω ένα πίνακα ή κάτι παρόμοιο με τους πιο συχνούς όρους, ώστε να υπάρχει ομοιογένεια στη μετάφραση.

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[info]pne
2006-02-15 10:46 am UTC (link)
Ουψ, δεν είδα αυτό το σχόλιο όταν άρχιζα να απαντήσω. Συγνώμη.

Δημήτρη, άκου καλύτερα ό,τι λέει η Ζωή παρ' ό,τι είπα εγώ :)

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[info]istorima
2006-02-15 11:45 am UTC (link)
Κάτι τέτοιο δηλαδή;

Code: /community/settings.bml.label.commcreate2

This is the account that you want to turn into a community. It must
[Error: Irreparable invalid markup ('<a [[aopts]]>') in entry. Owner must fix manually. Raw contents below.]

Κάτι τέτοιο δηλαδή;

Code: /community/settings.bml.label.commcreate2

This is the account that you want to turn into a community. It must <a [[aopts]]>already be created</a>, but should not already be in use by an individual, because after this, many different people will potentially be able to post in it.
Greek:Αυτός είναι ο λογαριασμός που θέλετε να τον μετατρέψετε σε κοινότητα. Πρέπει <a [[aopts]]> να έχει ήδη δημιουργηθεί </a>, αλλά να μην είναι σε χρήση από κάποιον, διότι μετά, θα μπορούν ενδεχόμενα πολλοί και διάφοροι άνθρωποι να καταχωρούν σε αυτόν.

Code: /community/settings.bml.label.createtext2
From here you can create a community account. A community is a special type of account that other users can join and post in.
Από εδώ μπορείτε να δημιουργήσετε έναν λογαριασμό κοινότητας. Μια κοινότητα είναι ένας ειδικός τύπος λογαριασμού που άλλοι χρήστες μπορούν να γίνουν μέλη και να καταχωρούν σε αυτόν.

Code: /community/settings.bml.label.createtext2_example
For an example of a community, check out the <a [[aopts]]>[[commname]] Community</a>.
Για ένα παράδειγμα κοινότητας, δες <a [[aopts]]>[[commname]] Κοινότητα</a>.

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[info]it0376
2006-02-15 11:47 am UTC (link)
Ναι, κάτι τέτοιο :)

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[info]pne
2006-02-15 10:44 am UTC (link)
δεν είναι ενεργοποιημένο το save. Προφανώς κάπως θα πρέπει να πάρω posting access?

Έτσι είναι -- πρέπει πρώτα να εξουσιοδοτηθείς πριν μπορείς να αλλάξεις ή να προσθέσεις μεταφράσεις.

Μπορούμε να συμφωνήσουμε σε κοινές ορολογίες;

Εγώ πρότεινα μερικές εδώ.

Αλλά να σου πω την αλήθεια, νομίζω ότι είναι καλύτερο να μεταφράζουμε όσο μπορούμε περισσότερες σελίδες προτού να στενοχωρεθούμε παραπολύ για λέξεις. Έτσι δε βλέπω μεγάλο πρόβλημα αν οι ορολογίες δεν είναι εντελώς οι ίδιες παντού -- νομίζω ότι είναι πιο εύκολο να το ομοιοποιηθούμε ύστερα, όταν όλα είναι μεταφρασμένα.

Μπορείς όμως να κοιτάξεις τι έχει μεταφραστεί ώς τώρα για να δεις ποιες λέξεις έχουν ήδη χρησιμοποιηθεί.

Όσο για το posting access, αν θέλεις να βοηθήσεις προτείνω να κάνεις νέα καταχώρηση όπου γράφεις το όνομα του translation string (π.χ. "/translate/index.bml.table.langname") και τη μετάφραση που προτείνεις (π.χ. "Όνομα Γλώσσας"). (Βάλε όλες τις μεταφράσεις σε μια μόνο καταχώρηση, όχι μια καταχώρηση για κάθε translation string.)

Έτσι εμείς που είμαστε εξουσιοδοτημένοι μπορούμε να τα δούμε και να αποθηκεύσουμε αν τα εγκρίνουμε καλά. Όταν έχεις μεταφράσει για λίγο καιρό, μάλλον θα πάρεις αυτήν την εξουσιοδότηση κι εσύ για να μπορέσεις να το κάνεις ο ίδιος, αλλά προτιμώ να δω πρώτα πώς μεταφράζει ένας νεός "συνεργάτης" παρά να έχουμε να επανορθώσουμε μεταφρασμένα κείμενα αργότερα. Ελπίζω ότι καταλαβαίνεις.

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