miss_vampkin ([info]miss_vampkin) wrote in [info]livejournal_uk,
@ 2008-07-28 22:44:00
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Homophobia in the House of Commons
 Sorry if this has been posted before but I had to post this. She is very religious and was stating her beliefs. I support her right to believe whatever she wants, but what she said encites hatred and should not be tolerated considering her position of influence. Also, contrary to my previous entry - there IS a law against what she said, it is against the law to incite hatred racially or in reference to sexual preference or with regards to gender. The only thing that may protect her comments is parlimentary priviledge.

(copy/paste link below to read more, insert link wasn't working)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/ni/2008/06/police_to_investigate_iris_rob.html

*Just to make my views clear so I don't have to reply to every comment below, wow this has caused some debate, thats really great*    Yes, I do believe in Iris Robinson's right to believe gays are disgusting and evil. But I also say that if you want to believe the world is going to end in 2012 thats fine. But if you believe either of those things your wrong and delusional and therefor should not be in a position where you can convince others of your nonsense. This woman has influence over the people who allowed her to be voted in, not only the people who actually voted for her, to me this is worrying because she is likely to base her actions on her misguided beliefs, beliefs which honest very few people share these days. I would like to know what people would have said if we replace 'homosexuals' with any other minority, such as Jews, Muslims or mixed race people? In my opinion (no, I do not speak for anyone else) her views belong on a soap box or on the internet, not in the House of Commons, I'd like to think we had developed beyond that.



Last week in the London House of Commons the Northern Ireland DUP 'First
Lady' (aka Minister for Homophobia) Iris Robinson made a third anti-gay outburst in which she said:

"There can be no viler act, apart from homosexuality and sodomy,
than sexually abusing innocent children"

Please sign the e-petition to have her reprimanded by the Prime Minister.
There are already 12,000 signatories and the deadline is 9th August. Lets
put and end to bigotry, discrimination and fear.

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Robinson-Gay/



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[info]reithar
2008-07-28 10:04 pm UTC (link)
What a truly stupid woman. People like her make my blood run cold. Off to sign now!

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[info]miss_vampkin
2008-07-28 10:04 pm UTC (link)
Thank you. x

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[info]phoenix1979
2008-07-28 10:05 pm UTC (link)
Signed. Stupid cow should be sacked, I hate people like her, ugh.

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[info]miss_vampkin
2008-07-28 10:06 pm UTC (link)
Thanks x

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[info]super_loulou
2008-07-28 10:05 pm UTC (link)
She is seriously saying that sex between consenting adults is worse than child abuse? Nice woman.

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[info]miss_vampkin
2008-07-28 10:07 pm UTC (link)
Yes, two consenting adults of the same gender expressing their love physically is WORSE than abusing and violating an innocent child sexually.

Apparently.

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(no subject) - [info]super_loulou, 2008-07-28 10:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]miss_vampkin, 2008-07-29 12:29 pm UTC

[info]reithar
2008-07-28 10:07 pm UTC (link)
Obviously delusional as well as stupid.

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[info]a_pawson
2008-07-28 10:27 pm UTC (link)
I don't think she meant to compare the two. She did clarify her actual opinion in the Belfast Telegraph.

“Can you think of anything more vile than man and man or woman and woman and sexually abusing children? What I say I base on biblical pronouncements, based on God’s word. I am amazed that people are surprised when I quote from scriptures ... I cannot think of anything more sickening than a child being abused. It is comparable to the act of homosexuality. I think they are all comparable. I feel totally repulsed by both. ... I am trying to reach out to people. That is what Christ teaches us ... Anything I say is out of love. I am not hate-mongering. I cannot leave my Christian values hanging at the door when I go into politics. I am speaking out more now because we are getting it more and more rammed down our throats that the minority views are more important than the majority views. I am not trying to alienate anyone ... I do not turn anyone away. I would never water down anything with the scriptures and I don’t think I should. I find it amazing, if not unexpected, as these days Christians are persecuted for their views but that will not stop me. There will be a judgement day and when I am judged I want to know that I did all I could to spread the word of God.”

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(no subject) - [info]miss_vampkin, 2008-07-28 10:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]a_pawson, 2008-07-28 10:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]miss_vampkin, 2008-07-28 10:43 pm UTC
Hold on. Devil's Advocate time. - [info]aneurin, 2008-07-29 12:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]carcass_ss, 2008-07-28 11:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]charlycrash, 2008-07-28 10:35 pm UTC

[info]charlycrash
2008-07-28 10:11 pm UTC (link)
Hey, at least she's not conflating pederasty and homosexuality. That one's always hilarious.

Even my mum does it, which is pretty depressing.

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[info]miss_vampkin
2008-07-28 10:15 pm UTC (link)
Its a common misjudgement. In some cases it's honest ignorance, in other's blind belligerence.

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[info]phoenix1979
2008-07-28 10:41 pm UTC (link)
Even my mum does it, which is pretty depressing.

Mine too, or at least she used to, but I'd tear her down every time I heard her say things, she tends not to when I'm around now.

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[info]freedom_spark
2008-07-28 10:13 pm UTC (link)
It aggrovates me so much as to how people can actually say the most ridiculous things, I'm signing it.

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[info]miss_vampkin
2008-07-28 10:16 pm UTC (link)
Thank you. Yes, it is very aggrovating what some people come out with, you think somewhere along the road of life they'd have learned better. Particularly someone in her position.

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(no subject) - [info]freedom_spark, 2008-07-28 10:19 pm UTC

[info]sheeshkebab
2008-07-28 10:15 pm UTC (link)
Idiot

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[info]a_pawson
2008-07-28 10:24 pm UTC (link)
The Prime Minister has no power to reprimand her. She's a member of the DUP, not the Labour party. Peter Robinson, as leader of the DUP, would be the person to address the petition to. of course it is unlikely to have much effect as he is her husband.

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[info]miss_vampkin
2008-07-28 10:29 pm UTC (link)
You'd hope that public censure, if it did not force her to reflect on her remarks, would at least provid comfort to those she'd verbally attacked.

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(no subject) - [info]lyle_lanley, 2008-07-28 10:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]miss_vampkin, 2008-07-28 10:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]duj_1arm, 2008-07-29 08:31 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]lyle_lanley, 2008-07-28 10:45 pm UTC

[info]lyle_lanley
2008-07-28 10:33 pm UTC (link)
I'm fine with people having their own opinions and beliefs etc.

But what she said is just not on, it's both offensive and completely out of order.

The dumb bitch.

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correction
[info]kosmicseer
2008-07-28 10:44 pm UTC (link)
"incites" hatred

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[info]miss_vampkin
2008-07-28 10:45 pm UTC (link)
Thank you.

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Re: correction - [info]kosmicseer, 2008-07-28 11:05 pm UTC

[info]carcass_ss
2008-07-28 11:22 pm UTC (link)
> but what she said encites hatred and should not be tolerated
> considering her position of influence.

as you said - she is stating her beliefs. and as you also correctly said, there is no law against what she said. and the lack of such law has its purpose.

People are FREE to state their beliefs, the same way as you are free to express your beliefs in not agreeing with her.

as to your unhappiness of misuse of her "position of power" - well she reached that position through her own efforts, if you believe that being in "position of power" she should suddenly lose the right of freely expressing her beliefs - i suggest you think again.

you if are not happy of her using "position of power" - you are more than welcome to try to achieve even more prominent position and try to deliver your own message. whatever that would be.

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[info]duj_1arm
2008-07-29 08:28 am UTC (link)
She reached that position because her husband sorted it out for her.

She's thick as champ, bigoted in just about every way possible and is a complete and utter cow. However because her surname is Robinson and she stands for the DUP she'll get elected every single time.

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(no subject) - [info]carcass_ss, 2008-07-29 08:51 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]miss_vampkin, 2008-07-29 01:07 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]miss_vampkin, 2008-07-29 12:24 pm UTC
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[info]dandygrrrl
2008-07-29 12:04 am UTC (link)
Even though I totally disagree what she said, how can someone say that two people of the same gender being in love is the same as child abuse ftw? I do think she has every right to say what she beleaves in even though hello it's 2008 and not 1908. Still at least she's a pollition that sticks to what she beleaves in and not just says what she think will get her more votes.

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[info]sweetdirtygurl
2008-07-29 12:52 am UTC (link)
Yeah, I love it in the ass, therefore I must advocate child abuse!

FFS, I endorse sodomy, on a daily basis if I can.

Petition signed.

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(no subject) - [info]dandygrrrl, 2008-07-29 01:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]akicif, 2008-07-29 01:21 am UTC
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[info]j_u_d_a_s
2008-07-29 02:03 am UTC (link)
Ummm... the OP does contradict herself as has already been pointed out.

But really Iris Robinson's remarks, no matter how offensive they are, do remain true to her partys political stance. A quick glance at the DUP's wiki page - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Unionist_Party shows them to be the typical sort of religious nutters who thrive on the Daily Mail. Their policy on educational excellence refuses to teach the theory of evolution for example.

I'm actually glad that Iris Robinson has made her views clear. Because now we know just how dangerous her party is. Thankfully Belfast is starting to improve dramatically and in time views like the DUP's will be left behind, discarded like thinking the Earth is flat.

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[info]_ainz_
2008-07-29 06:16 am UTC (link)
I heard someone talking about this recently and thought.. "nah that can't be true"... *sigh* The narrow mindedness of some people still surprises me.

Signed.

x

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[info]theanatomist
2008-07-29 08:17 am UTC (link)
I cannot believe that more people aren't jumping on this point, aside from the homophobic comments. This woman is a member of the Health Committee and spokeswoman for Health for the DUP. Homosexuality was officially removed as a mental illness 12 years ago under British law, and yet she is advocating using psychiatric treatment to "cure" gays??!!!

I'm glad I don't live in N.I. if she is a 'health' spokeswoman.

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[info]dandygrrrl
2008-07-29 11:48 am UTC (link)
Being gay isn't a mental illness, and how can you make some one not gay, it's like saying you stop someone being stright. Oh Iris Robinson must have travelled through time and really come from the dark ages.

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(no subject) - [info]theanatomist, 2008-07-29 12:25 pm UTC

[info]duj_1arm
2008-07-29 08:25 am UTC (link)
Iris Robinson is a cunt.

This woman is married to our First Minister.

And we wonder why the laws in Northern Ireland are so much more restrictive than those in the rest of the UK...

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[info]renfield286
2008-07-29 09:11 am UTC (link)
kinda reminds me of that woman in America, the one who said that gay people are a danger to kids and that they are waiting around schools to turn them gay.

i think she is a politician of some kind too.

-=R86=-
Stuppid peoples

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[info]dandygrrrl
2008-07-29 11:39 am UTC (link)
ftw like that makes a load of sense, I want to know who been hanging about when I was at school then, being I'm a slash writting, cross dressing, really wish I was a gay man woman. In fact I pretty much idendify with being all sexualitys in one way or another what does Iris Robinson say about that.

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(no subject) - [info]renfield286, 2008-07-29 11:55 am UTC
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[info]sophia8
2008-07-29 09:37 am UTC (link)
If she bases her hatred of homosexuality on the Bible (I use the word hatred because she sure doesn't sound like she loves gays), then somebody should point out to her that there are Bible experts who think that the commonly-quoted Bible passages against homosexuality have been poorly translated and actually refer to ritual uncleanliness and the like.
There's a good article here.
And it's revealing that homophobes so often concentrate on the shoving-todgers-up-bottoms bit and ignore everything else that gay men do with each other; they clearly have unresolved potty-training issues, imho.

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[info]dandygrrrl
2008-07-29 11:43 am UTC (link)
Homophobes are obversly as you so elquently (Sorry my spelling is bad) put it todgers-up-bottoms are obversly obsessed with gay sex and there for are gay themselfs. People should just see the beauty of two people in love, not what they get up in the bedroom, do they think about what a stright couple get up to in the bedroom, if they do hello whos the pervert.

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Me... - [info]renfield286, 2008-07-29 01:06 pm UTC

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